Anders Zacharias Benjaminson (1838-1909)
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Topic author: Pgalb
Subject: Anders Zacharias Benjaminson (1838-1909)
Posted on: 21/09/2014 22:25:31
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I'm looking for boat records for Anders Zacharias Benjaminson (aka Andrew Skei, arrived 1898 in MN) and his sons, John Mark Anderson and Albert Skei (both arriving 1893 in MN). Also, I'm wondering if there are relatives who still reside on Donna Island, Nordland, Norway. Any information would be appreciated.
Pam Galbraith
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Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 21/09/2014 22:38:07
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Albert A Skei left from Trondheim on Tasso, link.
In 1914 he had been on a visit and returned with Finmarken, link.
Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 21/09/2014 22:54:58
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Mentioned in a previous norwayheritage topic:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4011&SearchTerms=skei
Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 21/09/2014 22:58:21
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Albert was baptized Albert Kristian, born March 25 1870, see #8.
Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 21/09/2014 23:03:02
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John Mark Anderson - baptized Jens Mørk, born Aug 5 1872, see #25.
Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 21/09/2014 23:53:00
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Albert was enterprising and this is a "boat" related record though not the one you seek...
Moorhead Daily News; Friday, August 12, 1932 pg 1, col 6:
"11 Anglers taken in Pelican Lake Area this week
Game wardens arrest pair with 560 ft net, 97 fish
....."Albert Skei, Cooperstown, N.D. who owns a cottage on a point between Fish and Bass lakes which is seperated from the mainland by a deep swamp, and Elmer Mickelson of Pelican Rapids, his companion were brought before a justice of the peace in Pelican Rapids and paid fines and costs totaling $108.20, Streich said. In addition Skei was forbidden to fish in any manner in Minnesota waters for one year and Mickelson is prohibited from using a net. Their boat and net were confiscated...."
You might get his obituary through Pennington County Historical Society. Here is his indexed listings at their site pchs.org :
Obituary Search
Surname First Name Date Published Age Cemetery Newspaper
Skei Albert 07-Jan-1943 72 ND Tri-County Forum
Skei Albert 07-Jan-1943 72 ND Times
Reply author: Pgalb
Replied on: 22/09/2014 00:19:55
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That's so funny. Thank you Jkmarier.
Thank you, Einer, for the info about Alberts trip over. I believe John Mark was with him. According to my grandmother who was John Marks daughter, the two sons decided to leave Norway after they were caught in a great storm off the coast of Nordland in 1992. They were fishermen by trade.
Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 22/09/2014 00:31:56
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The 1900 census has Andreas (Andrew) as having immigrated in 1892. I don't believe that is accurate, however:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M99R-6DP
Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 22/09/2014 00:34:56
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They were born on Dønna
When Albert was back on a visit in 1914 he went to Herøy
Herøy is an island south of Dønna (connected to Dønna with a bridge today).
I have passed farm Skei were they were born many times when my grandparents lived, my mother was born on Dønna ca 7 Miles North of Skei.
It is a beautiful island
Kåre
Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 22/09/2014 00:39:17
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Andres' 2nd marriage #7:
Source information: Nordland county, Dønna, Parish register copy nr. 835C04 (1880-1905), Marriage records 1881, page 204.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2588&idx_id=2588&uid=ny&idx_side=-152
Reply author: Pgalb
Replied on: 22/09/2014 00:41:32
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Thank you Kare! Do you know if relatives still live in the area? It would probably be from Anders Benjaminsons second marriage.
Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 22/09/2014 00:44:00
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Unlikely, the two daughters from that marriage came to US. Petra and Alma. Petra married an Austinson and died early about 1906 or so and Alma married and had a large family and lived to a great age but in Clay County, Minnesota. Andres died at Alma's house in 1909.
Reply author: Pgalb
Replied on: 22/09/2014 00:47:41
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Originally posted by Pgalb
Thank you Kare! Do you know if relatives still live in the area? They would probably be from Anders Benjaminsons second marriage.
Reply author: Pgalb
Replied on: 22/09/2014 00:50:29
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Thank you! My grandmother referred fondly to these two women.
Reply author: AntonH
Replied on: 22/09/2014 02:13:48
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Probably Albert arriving in Canada. From Ancestry.com.
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Albert A Schei
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1870
Date of Arrival: 25 Jun 1893
Vessel: Laurentian
Search Ship Database:
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec, Canada; Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Reply author: Pgalb
Replied on: 22/09/2014 04:03:45
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What is the best way to travel from Oslo to Donna Island?
Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 22/09/2014 09:38:04
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By airplane from Oslo Airport to Sandnessjøen Airport
From Sandnessjøen ca 20 minutes by ferry to Dønna (Bjørn).
From Bjørn ca 7 Miles North to Skei.
Skei is by the road on left hand
Kåre
Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 22/09/2014 10:01:38
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Albert Kristian and Jens Mørk moved out from Dønna in Mai 1893, see #13 and 14.
Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 22/09/2014 10:12:13
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Anders Zakarias 2nd wife, Maren Johansdatter, died April 9 1894, see #3.
Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 22/09/2014 10:27:15
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Petra Matilde was born Oct 5 1881, see #22.
Alma Johanne was born March 29 1883, see #9.
Reply author: Pgalb
Replied on: 22/09/2014 13:31:12
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Thank you again for the helpful information! I'm so grateful to find out about my Norwegian heritage. Do the death records for Anders Benjaminson's wives include a cause of death? Kare, do you have any pictures of Skei farm?
Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 22/09/2014 14:26:57
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Albert was on a trip back to Herøy 1814. His father was from Herøy.
Anders Zacharias Benjaminsen was born on farm Ugelfoden, Herøy, April 23. 1838 and bapt. June 3. 1838 in Herøy church.
Parents: Benjamin Sivertsen and Anna Johanna Johansdatter, see #7
Herøy church
Kåre
Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 22/09/2014 14:38:06
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Maren Johansdatter died of diabetes.
Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 22/09/2014 14:47:05
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It seems like you have Family in Canada
Anders Zacharias Brother Peder Christian Benjaminsen is mentioned here
Kåre
Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 22/09/2014 15:12:35
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And perhaps in Norway too.
link
Frode lives on the island Tomma, a neighboring island east of Dønna
Kåre
Reply author: Pgalb
Replied on: 22/09/2014 15:32:10
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Anders first wife was Anne Katrine Jensdatter. Is there a death record for her that states what she died from in 1879? Kare, who is Frode?
Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 22/09/2014 16:14:36
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quote:
Originally posted by Pgalb
Anders first wife was Anne Katrine Jensdatter. Is there a death record for her that states what she died from in 1879? Kare, who is Frode?
Frode Holthe who lives on the island Tomma is the owner of the family-tree above
Kåre
Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 22/09/2014 20:30:12
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quote:- the death record is #8.
Anders first wife was Anne Katrine Jensdatter. Is there a death record for her that states what she died from in 1879?
She died Jan 21 1879 from puerperal at Alstadhaug hospital.
Reply author: Pgalb
Replied on: 22/09/2014 21:01:19
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Thanks for the translation Einer. Puerperal was an infection following childbirth and her last child would have been 2or 3. Is there a way to find out if a baby had died just previous to the infection? Thank you for your continued help.
Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 23/09/2014 00:49:19
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Originally posted by Pgalb
Thanks for the translation Einer. Puerperal was an infection following childbirth and her last child would have been 2or 3. Is there a way to find out if a baby had died just previous to the infection? Thank you for your continued help.
You must not have looked at the other norwayheritage page that was linked to on page 1. Here is a copy & paste about Andreas' family. She had had a child in 1879:
Andres Sakarias Benjaminson b.23 Apr 1838 d. 21 May 1909 came to U.S. m 1 Anne Katrine Jensdatter and had at least 4 children with her: Albert Skei b 25 Mar 1870-1942 m Anne Sørvig, Jens Mork Skei b. 5 Aug 1872, Anne Margrete b.25 May 1876, Alfred Kristian b 26 Jan 1879 d 1879; sons Albert and Jens came to America; Andres m 2 Maren Johanne Jensdatter and they had two children Petra b. 5 Oct 1881 d 13 Aug 1906 and Alma Johanne b. 29 Mar 1883 d 21 Nov 1980 both of whom came to America with Andres, first to Lake Park, Minnesota then to Norman and Clay counties, Minnesota.
Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 23/09/2014 08:44:38
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Alfred Christians record is #11. The baptism took place at home, he died before this was confirmed in church.
His death record is #5.
Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 23/09/2014 09:24:01
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Kare, do you have any pictures of Skei farm?
This is a link to a map showing øvre Skei in Dønna.
Here are two pictures of øvre Skei, 1 and 2.
I also found another picture of Skei, link.
Reply author: Pgalb
Replied on: 23/09/2014 13:34:27
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Einer, these pictures are wonderful to have! Thank you!
Reply author: Pgalb
Replied on: 24/09/2014 16:53:02
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My grandmother (daughter of John Mark Anderson, granddaughter of Anders Zacharias Benjaminson) said her father and uncle left Donna Island in 1893 after a big storm that took many fisherman's lives. Her father, uncle and grandfather were caught in the storm but survived.
Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 24/09/2014 17:31:50
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If you were to go through the death / funeral registers of the parishes in the Lofoten Islands and most of Nordland, you will find that there were many deaths on the sea. Waters in the area are often violent. It was a risk most were willing to take, to make a living for themselves and their families but very harsh consequences.
Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 24/09/2014 19:35:03
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quote:
Originally posted by Pgalb
My grandmother (daughter of John Mark Anderson, granddaughter of Anders Zacharias Benjaminson) said her father and uncle left Donna Island in 1893 after a big storm that took many fisherman's lives. Her father, uncle and grandfather were caught in the storm but survived.
The storm was Jan. 25. 1893, 6 fishermen from Dønna were never found and buried #1-6
Shipwrecked on a journey to Stamsund in Lofoten.
Kåre
Reply author: Pgalb
Replied on: 24/09/2014 19:41:59
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Sobering records.
Reply author: Pgalb
Replied on: 24/09/2014 19:51:49
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I haven't been able to find John Mark Anderson's boat record yet. He came with his brother Albert skei in May 1893. I'm not sure when he changed his name to John Mark from Jens Mork.
Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 24/09/2014 21:12:38
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Add. information.
Your Family on Skei (spelled Skjei in 1865) and my family on Skræingen (Nordbø) were cottagers/leaseholders on Dønna.
The farms were owned by Dønnes Manor and the Coldevin family.
1880 the manor owned 550 farms, ca 140 of them were on Dønna.
The cottagers were required to work a specfied number of days on the estate. On the Estate it was a clock tower where they rang the bell when they needed help.
Grandpa told me they hated the sound of the damned bell.
A warm summerday early in the 1900 grandpa told me that he, his brothers and father worked hard to get the dry hay into their own barn, the bell ranged.
After a while the landlord come riding on a white horse and asked if they had not heard the bell.
"Yes" they answered, "we heard the bell, but if you help us we will help you"
Coldevin turned the horse and rode home.
They never heard anything about this event later
1911 Isach Coldevin went bankrupt and em. to USA.
Kåre
Reply author: Pgalb
Replied on: 25/09/2014 01:06:46
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That's so interesting, Kare! Thank you for that background. I wondered if they owned that Skei farm and sold it.
Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 25/09/2014 10:01:41
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I 1900 all four Skei farms were owned by the users, occupation "Gårdbruger" Farmer, but the land was still leased (owned by Dønnes Manor)
This practice was mostly ended between 1900-1930, and by the law 1928 where former cottagers could by their "own" land.
The Real Estate Register, not online for Nordland county yet, will tell when that happened and how much they paid for the land.
Kåre
Reply author: JaneC
Replied on: 25/09/2014 18:44:02
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Originally posted by Pgalb
I haven't been able to find John Mark Anderson's boat record yet. He came with his brother Albert skei in May 1893. I'm not sure when he changed his name to John Mark from Jens Mork.
A candidate:
Jens M. Anders. Uglefod age 18 from Dønnø registered to depart Trondheim 07 June 1893 headed to Pelican Rapids, Minn. Passenger on the Tasso. Link
Boston Passenger and Crew Lists (as indexed on Ancestry)
Name: Jens M Wglefod
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Age: 18
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Ship Name: Cephalonia
Arrival Date: 24 Jun 1893
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Last Residence: Norway
Corresponding ships for the S/S Tasso (2) journey 1893-07-06 Trondheim - Christiansund - Aalesund - Hull:
S/S Cephalonia, Cunard Line, from Liverpool to Boston
here
Scene aboard the Cephalonia:
1890
Reply author: Pgalb
Replied on: 25/09/2014 23:37:00
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Thank you Jane. I'll check on this record in ancestry.
Reply author: 3454terryg
Replied on: 26/11/2015 22:06:42
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Originally posted by Pgalb
I'm looking for boat records for Anders Zacharias Benjaminson (aka Andrew Skei, arrived 1898 in MN) and his sons, John Mark Anderson and Albert Skei (both arriving 1893 in MN). Also, I'm wondering if there are relatives who still reside on Donna Island, Nordland, Norway. Any information would be appreciated.
Pam Galbraith
anders would be my great grandfather. alma anderson (skei) was my grandmother. my dad was elmer guttormson
where do you live. can you forward your email to me?
thanks terry guttormson
terryguttormson@gmail.com
Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 02/12/2015 16:31:42
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Originally posted by Kåarto
And perhaps in Norway too.
link
Frode lives on the island Tomma, a neighboring island east of Dønna
Kåre
Terry, this is on page 2 of this topic. But put your cursor on it and Click on the underlined word above in this message and it should take you to the web page. Information on this,the frode base is clickable on any of the underlined names, you can get more information on each person. I hadn't explored this base before when it was first posted but I see that it contains the information t hat Anders' daughter Anne came to US with her husband and children in 1904, so none of that generation (your grandmother's known sibling and half-siblings) stayed in Norway (except those who had passed on).
Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 02/12/2015 19:44:56
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Not too surprisingly, Saras and Anne Anderson went to Lake Park Minnesota and Anders Skei as Anders Benjaminson is living with them in 1905:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SPSZ-55D
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