Nikoline Olsdatter

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Topic author: TWillJohn
Subject: Nikoline Olsdatter
Posted on: 05/01/2017 20:57:27
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I'm looking for information on Nikoline Olsdatter b 30 Aug 1849 at Solliødegården, Stange, Hedmark and traveling to America prior to her wedding on Mar 1, 1873 in Jackson, Wisconsin, USA to Martin C Johnson. Nikoline's parents are Ole Olsen Toten and Nikoline Rasmusdatter.

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Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 05/01/2017 21:01:14
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What kind of information are you looking for?
You have her birth, her parents, her residence in Norway, date of marriage in America, husband in America, residence in America....

Reply author: TWillJohn
Replied on: 05/01/2017 21:02:50
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I'm looking for when she immigrated and who she may have been traveling with to America.

Reply author: AntonH
Replied on: 06/01/2017 00:32:09
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Here is a candidate.

Nicoline Olsen
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Nicoline Olsen
Arrival Date: 18 Sep 1871
Birth Date: abt 1848
Age: 23
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Swedish
Place of Origin: Sweden
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: City of London

And maybe that same person leaving Norway. However she is traveling to Lansing?

https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000413218

She seem to be traveling with a Carl Johan Olsen next passenger in the record.

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 06/01/2017 07:09:12
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Ole Olsen, Fjeldhaugstuen and Nicoline Rasmusdatter, Lund were married May 29 1849, see #21.
Parish record for the baptism of the daughter Nicoline is #200.
The mother died in childbirth, see #91.

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 06/01/2017 07:21:42
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The father carpenter and weelwright Ole Olsen moved out of Stange May 1850 and emigrated to USA, see #23.
If I read it right, he brought the daughter with him.

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 06/01/2017 11:53:13
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Ole Olsen was born April 9 1825, see #108.
His parents were Ole Hansen and Gunild Hansdatter, Fjelhoug.

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 06/01/2017 13:14:37
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Nicoline Rasmusdatter was born Sept 25 1826, see #121.
Her parents were Rasmus Rasmussen and Live Nilsdatter, Lund.

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 06/01/2017 13:24:16
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Rasmus Rasmussen, Hommerstad and Live Nilsdatter, Hommerstad Eie were married May 21 1824, see #15.

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 06/01/2017 13:35:22
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Rasmus Rasmussen, his parents and siblings in 1801.

Reply author: TWillJohn
Replied on: 06/01/2017 18:09:52
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Einar,

Thank you for the links! It's a lot of information to take in. We were unaware Nicoline Rasmussdatter had died in childbirth. If Nicoline Olsdatter traveled to America with Ole she would have been a one year old child and I would think Ole would need help in caring for her? Perhaps one of Nicoline's sisters or Ole's siblings took her in? Could you translate the emigration entry for Ole and where is might indicate Nicoline traveled with him? Thanks!

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 06/01/2017 18:32:03
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I wonder if this could be Ole Olsen Sollie-Ødegaarden?
Bark Sjøfna, leaving Drammen late July/early August 1850, arriving New York Sep. 21.
#148 Ole Olsen 25 m Between deck

Line above: #147 Syver Knudsen 27 m Between deck
Could be Syver Knudsen Ramsæt, listed below Ole in the leaving parish- churchbook.
Sever Ramsett settled in Sterling, Vernon, Wisconsin.

No signs of Nikoline on the Sjøfna-list though...

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 06/01/2017 18:47:39
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I'm not convinced she emigrated in 1850.
I believe she could have been adopted by an aunt, e.q. Lovise Rasmusdatter born 1832. The other aunts would be quite young in 1849. Her mother who died in childbirth had the following siblings:
1. Rasmus Rasmussen, Chr 22 NOV 1829
2. Lovise Rasmusdatter, Chr 04 NOV 1832
(3. Nicoline Rasmusdatter, Chr 15 OCT 1826)
4. Rangde Rasmusdatter, Chr 09 NOV 1823 (died young?)
5. Rangde Rasmusdatter, Chr 25 MAY 1834 (died 17 Nov 1837)
6. Lise Rasmusdatter, Chr 16 APR 1837
7. Rangdi Rasmusdatter, Chr 16 SEP 1841

Here is a possibility for Nekkoline Olsdatter in census-1865, working as a servant in Stange.

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 06/01/2017 19:47:36
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No signs of Nikoline on the Sjøfna-list though...

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Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 06/01/2017 19:54:53
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Nicoline Olsdatter, Soliødegaarden was confirmed Oct 4 1863, see#19.
No indication who she was staying with.

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 06/01/2017 20:15:58
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Originally posted by eibache

Nicoline Olsdatter, Soliødegaard was confirmed Oct 4 1863, see#19.
No indication who she was staying with.

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Reply author: TWillJohn
Replied on: 06/01/2017 20:36:02
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Does the Soliødegaard reference used in the confirmation parish entry indicate she was still living on the Soliødegaard farm, or just a birth reference? If so, were Nicoline's parents Rasmus Rasmussen and Live Nielsdatter were still living on the farm and were acting as her parents?

Nicoline Rasmussdatter's younger brother, Rasmus Rasmussen would have been only 20 at her death and married to Eline Olsdatter Vethammer in 1854 so it is very unlikely any her siblings were solely responsible, but were at an age where they could be very helpful if she was brought up by the grandparents.. My records have the elder Rasmus Rasmussen passing after 1875, and Live Nielsdatter passing in 1865.

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 06/01/2017 20:55:11
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The Nekkoline Olsdatter in Stange in census-1865 is the correct one. She works as a servant in the household of her aunt Lise Rasmusdatter born 26 jan 1837, and uncle Mikkel Tjøstelsen Nødsle born 09 April 1831.

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 06/01/2017 21:05:17
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Originally posted by TWillJohn

Does the Soliødegaard reference used in the confirmation parish entry indicate she was still living on the Soliødegaard farm, or just a birth reference? If so, were Nicoline's parents Rasmus Rasmussen and Live Nielsdatter were still living on the farm and were acting as her parents?

Nicoline Rasmussdatter's younger brother, Rasmus Rasmussen would have been only 20 at her death and married to Eline Olsdatter Vethammer in 1854 so it is very unlikely any her siblings were solely responsible, but were at an age where they could be very helpful if she was brought up by the grandparents.. My records have the elder Rasmus Rasmussen passing after 1875, and Live Nielsdatter passing in 1865.

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Reply author: AntonH
Replied on: 06/01/2017 22:01:39
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Here is the arrival of Ole Olsen into New York, The passengers around him match the names mentioned by Jan Peter above. No new info found in the record.

Ole Olsen
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Ole Olsen
Arrival Date: 21 Sep 1850
Birth Date: abt 1825
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Sjofna

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 06/01/2017 22:14:55
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Reply author: TWillJohn
Replied on: 06/01/2017 23:08:26
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Jan Peter
Thank you for the photos, it is such a pleasure to put pictures to the story. I agree, it looks like Nicoline was with her aunt Lise and husband in 1865.
Why do you believe Live Nielsdatter died in 1839. when last daughter 7. Rangdi Rasmusdatter, Chr 16 SEP 1841?

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 07/01/2017 10:23:39
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Originally posted by TWillJohn

Jan Peter
Thank you for the photos, it is such a pleasure to put pictures to the story. I agree, it looks like Nicoline was with her aunt Lise and husband in 1865.
Why do you believe Live Nielsdatter died in 1839. when last daughter 7. Rangdi Rasmusdatter, Chr 16 SEP 1841?

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