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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 29/07/2008 : 03:50:51
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The link to the scanned church record does not work.
Working direct links to the scanned images on the Digitalarkivet can be copied and pasted from the desired page from a display option available. At the top of the scanned image page is an option labeled "Bildeinformasjon:" [Norwegian version]/"Image Information"[English version] which is by default set to "Ingen" [Norwegian version]/"None" [English version]. Change that and magic is available. Of the three options I like "Øverst" [Norwegian version]/"On top" [English version] because it puts the additional information across the top of the page and is usually easier for me to see.
The first line "Kildeinformasjon:" [Norwegian version]/"Source information" [English version] is a really nice summary of the source of the information and is wonderful to have for making detailed source citations, footnotes, etc.
The second line "Permanent sidelenke:" [Norwegian version]/"Permanent pagelink" [English version] is the best line to capture if you want to save the exact URL location or share the actual scanned image and the source information. It allows the full capabilities for zooming in and out to best view the image and informs the recipient of the exact location, book and other details to be able to find WHERE you found the information.
The third line "Permanent bildelenke:" [Norwegian version]/"Permanent imagelink" [English version] is the best used to print a copy of the image or to save a copy of the image in a jpg format computer file. This line does NOT also capture the source information and therefore is NOT the best line to copy to share online when requesting help or assistance in deciphering the image found.
At the end of the record that writer has put in "husmannsfolk paa Kloster." He had a habit on those pages of making notes like that.
The family is included in the bygdebøker for Rennesøy, the third volume of that series in the pages for Utstein Kloster. Neither of the parents was originally from Rennesøy and most of their children later appear to have moved to Stavanger. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/07/2008 : 06:53:38
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The birth record for Reinert Johan is #87
he was born Febr 9 1859 and baptized Febr 27.
The marriage record for his parents is #111
the date was Dec 9 1858 and Lars was 21 years old, his father was Roland Rolandsen and he came from Rennesøe. Anne Marthe was 24 years old and her father was Ole Olsen Høye.
Lars was born Dec 14 1836 and baptized Dec 18 in Kloster church, see #673. His parents Roland Rolandsen and Inger Johnsdatter were "huusmandsfolk" (cotters people) at Kloster.
In 1801 Anne Marthes father Ole was 1 year old. Anne Martha was baptized Dec 1 1833, her mother was Karen Tobiasdatter, see
#4 (next to the last record)
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/07/2008 : 15:50:26
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Kajus Johan J. was born Dec 7 1861 and baptized Kajus Johan Julius on Dec 25, see #57
Johan Olaus was born Oct 2 1864, see #65
Inger Karine was born April 14 1863, see #20
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jilliankloster
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 29/07/2008 : 18:19:37
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omg this is so great thanks eibache
Hopkins thanks for that as I am not good norwegian and i didn't know that direct linking didnt work
can someone please translate this for me as I was sent this from national archives in stavanger norway as it is part of what was sent when i inquired for the family it is from Ætterbok for Granvin” Churchrecord from Vang.
Jon Olavson Bjotveit 130 f, K. 1767—1833
G. 1797 m. Ingebjørg Sjursdtr. Måkastad 234 g, Ull. 1777-1853.
Jon kjØpte i 1797 garden til Kristoffer Person, som flytte til
JØrdre, låner med same av seijaren 300 rd. Kjøpte i 1803 Kjer-
landsh’agen av Elling Olavson, og sel same i 1831 til sonen
Olav for 100 spd. Ved skifte etter Jon fekk enkja m. a. utlagt
halvparten av ei «stampemylne», verdsett 3 spd. — Jon var
flink med hendene sine, han laga seg plog og ei potetrasp
som han fekk påskyning for. Dertil hadde han poetisk givnad
og skreiv ei visa på 28 vers om Espebrudlaupet 17. juni 1788
der 6 menneske drukna, og fleire vart skadde. (Sjå «Hardan-
ger» 1917, side 29.) |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/07/2008 : 20:19:23
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Jon Olavsen Bjotvedt 1767-1833 married in 1797 Ingebjørg Sjursdatter Måkastad 1777-1883.
Jon baught in 1797 Kristoffer Persons farm, he settled down on Jørdre. He (Jon) borrows from the same owner 300 rd. (Riksdaler). In 1803 be baught Kjerlandshagen from Elling Olavsen and sold the same farm in 1833 to his son Olav for 100 sp.(Spesiedaler).
Jon´s probate register shows that the widow inheirt half of a "stampemylne", valued to 3 Spesiedaler. - Jon was a handy man, he made his own plough and a potatoe rasp which he was congratulated for. In addition he had abilities as a phoem and he wrote 26 vers about the wedding in Espe June 17. 1788 where 6 persons drowned and several was wounded. (See Hardanger 1917 page 29)
"Stampe" was a "washing mashine" made of timber placed in a creek drifted as a "mylne" mill for carwing wool into wadmal.
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jilliankloster
Junior member
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Posted - 29/07/2008 : 20:50:22
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takk Kåarto
I have a question how does one once they have family tree info how does one go about trying to locate relatives over in Norway~
just curious about it
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 29/07/2008 : 21:12:06
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Bjotveit = a farm located in Kinsarvik, Hordaland, Norway.
Måkastad = a farm located in Ullensvang, Hordaland, Norway.
Kjerland = a farm in what was Granvin, Hordaland, Norway.
Jon Olavsen Bjotvedt's paternal grandparents were both from Ringøy farm in Kinsarvik, Hordaland, Norway. It would be likely that you would find links to my own ancestral family in those locations.
Jillian, you must have been given much more about your family than could first be assumed from your questions. Jon Olavsen and Ingebjørg Sjursdatter are the ancestors of one of your family that later resided in Rogaland as discussed in the first page of this line of inquiry.
Have you studied the basics about Norwegian parish records and bygdeboker??
Ancestors From Norway How-To Articles |
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jilliankloster
Junior member
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Posted - 29/07/2008 : 22:56:47
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Honestly I wasn't given much info on them except what you guys here have been helping me with which I am truly grateful for
I have started to look at that link you for studying the basics on Norwegian parish records & bygdeboker
I was sent something else in this email it is a record of some kind
this is in KJERLAND page 277
Ingegjerd 1803- ? Gift Kaland, busett Ulstein
Kloster
the other record is here
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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3351 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2008 : 23:17:08
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As I said Kjerland = a farm in what was Granvin, Hordaland, Norway.
Granvin, Ullensvang and Kinsarvik are areas along sections of the Hardanger fjord in Hordaland, Norway. They are well covered by resources such as parish records and bygdeboker.
"The ættarboks for Øyfjord, Ulvik, Kinsarvik, Odda, Udlesvang", 5 volumes by A.K. Bu; "Granvin, Ulvik og Eidfjord i gamal og ny tid", 2 volumes by Olav Kolltveit; "Aettarbok for Granvin" by Kvalem, Henrik Meyer.
"Odda, Ullensvang og Kinsarvik i gamal og ny tid", 5 volumes by Olav Kolltveit.
Rennesøy is the island district just to the north of the city of Stavanger in Rogaland. A multi-volume bygdeboker and parish records are also resources available for your use.
"Rennesøy gard og ætt", 3 volumes by Birger Lindanger, Jørg Erik Waula; "Rennesøy gards- og ættesoge", by Vilhelm Sunnanå og Håvard Vetrhus; "Rennesøy prestegjeld, Rennesøy, Mosterøy, Kvitsøy"
I have ancestors from all of those districts. I've "met" relatives still in Norway through my years of research into those areas -- persons with the same hobby and interested in exactly the same ancestors who happen upon each other while engaged in serious research. I've never deliberately sought out living relatives in Norway so cannot help you with that desire.
I've checked and I think it highly probable that Jon Olavsen Bjotvedt is one of the grandsons of 6th great grandparents of mine. My 5th great grandfather being one of his uncles.
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jilliankloster
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Posted - 30/07/2008 : 06:52:47
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thanks for this info I am going to try and see what I can find on Jon Olavson
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 30/07/2008 : 12:43:37
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It's good information in Follesdal's articles, enjoy the study and return to those articles as often as needed. I still do after all these years. Besides the small "dictionary" list Follesdal includes with his articles another online translation list will be useful to you -
http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm
Which archives sent you all this information? Did they do this work recently?
That's the link I was expecting to see.
Parents of Lars Rolandsen Kloster -- Roland Rolandsson, metal smith (born Nordland farm, Vang, Oppland ) m. Inger Jonsdatter (born Kjerland farm, Granvin, Hordaland) and Jon "Olavsen Bjotvedt" was her father in Granvin. That makes the link and lines up with the information in the bygdeboker by Kolltveit which includes Ytre Bjotveit farm, Kinsarvik.
Several of the bygdeboker/ættarboker for the Hardanger area districts of Ullensvang, Kinsarvik and Granvin that I listed earlier are available on LDS microfilm/microfiche; a very inexpensive way for you and I to get to use those books from the USA. (Use the translating lists and think seriously of buying a good Norwegian-English dictionary.) Most of all, enjoy the research! |
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jilliankloster
Junior member
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Posted - 30/07/2008 : 13:22:29
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Thank you Hopkins
for this info
I sent an email monday that just passed and I got a reply yesterday @ 6:42 am asking if they could help me and they sent me a reply back I gave them the names and the info the Stavanger archives sent it to me
It had 2 attachments one document was a letter telling me what was included and then told me about lars and Anne and told meto look at the
Rennesøy Gard og ætt band 3 and Ætterbok for Granvin church records of vang that was attached in a pdf file
Rennesøy Gard og ætt band 3 Roland Rolandsson, Nordland,Vang i Valdres f 1803 d 27.6.1890 .smed F: Roland Larsson
9.4.1833 m.Inger Jonsdtr Kjaerland Granvin b1803 d 27.4.1840
the info I have on Jon Olavson Bjotveit is from Ætterbok for Granvin it is 82 in it
I will have to check out LDS I actually have one in my city luckily I will have to get a New Norwegian Dictionary I had one from when I was with my ex husband and his Aunt used to write to us she was from Sørøya
I almost was able to read norwegian and understand with out the dictionary but I haven't read Norwegian in such a long time almost 8 years time |
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jilliankloster
Junior member
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Posted - 30/07/2008 : 14:23:02
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I found roland rolandsen father on the lds site as I went to look up roland on there his
fathers name is Roland Larsson was born 1768 Norland II,Vang,Oppland,Norway listed as deceased
Roland Rolandsen mother is
Ingebior Johannesdotte born About 1768 Norland Ii, Vang, Oppland, Norway
Roland Larssons his father Lars Rolandson born 1738 Norland II,Vang,Oppland,Norway his death was 1793
Roland Larsson mother is
Marit Ionsdotte b. 1748 Norland II,Vang,Oppland,Norway d.1795
Lars Rolandson mother is Marit Nilsdotte born 1715 in Leine III,Vang,Oppland,Norway she died in 1778
Marit's father is Nils Helgesson 1669 Remme,Vang,Oppland,Norway died 1727
Marits's Mother is
Berit Johannesdotte b 1676 Grihammar,Vang,Oppland,Norway d 1762
Roland Larsson
father is
Roland Larson b 1718 Norland,Vang,Oppland,Norway d 1793
Roland Larson father is
Lars Torisson b.about 1680 in Norland II,Vang,Oppland,Norway
Death: Deceased
Roland Larson mother is
Sigri Rolandsdotte b.abt 1680 Norland II,Vang,Oppland,Norway
Death: Deceased
Lars Torrisons father is
Tor Torstensen b. 1643 Norland II,Vang,Oppland,Norway D 1730
Tor Torstensen father is listed as this no first name
tortsen b abt 1611 Norland II,Vang,Oppland,Norway D Deceased
Tor Torstensen mother is not listed on lds
Nils Helgesson parents
father
Helge (Holji) Nilsson b1640 Remme,Vang,Oppland,Norway D Deceased
mother
Marit Endresdotte b 1638 Tveit,Vang,Oppland,Norway d 1713
Marriage
Spouse: Marit Endresdotte
Marriage: abt 1669 Remme,Vang,Oppland,Norway
Helge (Holji) Nilsson
father
Nils Helligeson abt 1631 Lien/Septon,,Oppland,Norway D Deceased
Mother
Guri Knutsdotte b abt 1631 Roe ,Vang,Oppland,Norway d 1664
Nils father
Hellige abt 1600 Liene,Vang,Oppland,Norway deceased
Guri's father
Knut Jacobsen Framstad b 1595 Oigale,Vang,Oppland,Norway deceased Framstad,Vang,Oppland,Norway
knuts father
Jacob b about 1570 Eltun,Vang,Oppland,Norway deceased |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 30/07/2008 : 17:41:27
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Here is an overwiew to show you where Vang, Rennesøy and Granvin are located in Norway.
Vang is in the eastern part of southern Norway in Oppland county in a area called Valdres which contains several parishs, Granvin is in the western part in southern Norway and south of Granvin is Rennesøy
Roland Rolandsen was born in Vang in Nordland and christened August 7. 1803.
Roland´s parents Roland Larsen age 33 and Ingeborg Johannisdatter age 40 as farmers on Nordland in 1801, no children, three servants "Tienestefolk" and a renter, Gjertrud.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 30/07/2008 17:46:11 |
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jilliankloster
Junior member
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Posted - 30/07/2008 : 18:23:21
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takk kare :)
wow that is simply amazing and thank you for explaining that to me and for finding roland and his parents on the census
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John R Kloster b. Feb 1860 Norway
