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Sheena Boese
Junior member
New Zealand
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 Posted - 08/09/2008 : 23:27:17
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| I am looking for any information relating to the Boese family in Norway and in particular my GG Grandfather Charles Frederick Boese b.1850 and emigrated to New Zealand abt. 1872 (his death certificate in 1882 states he had resided in NZ for 10 years). His occupation: Ships Carpenter. His father is Richard Frederick Boese b.abt. 1823 occupation: Constable and his mother is Carolyne Shannon Atkinson. I wish to find the shipping record for Charles Frederick Boese's emigration to NZ. It is possible being a Ships Carpenter he came out as crew? |
Edited by - Sheena Boese on 08/09/2008 23:29:33 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 12/09/2008 : 02:34:18
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You will probably be interested in the databases of the 1865, 1875 and 1900 Norwegian censuses. (Note that the 1875 Norwegian census is incomplete and does not include all parts of Norway.)
Instructions for use of the census databases at the following linked database collection are available from the opening page. (Personally I'd like to emphasize that the database "wildcard" character most useful is the % [percentage sign] and that is mentioned in the instructions but not stressed as much as I would recommend.)
http://www.rhd.uit.no/indexeng.html
I'm sure a number of us here tried searching for any Boese family in the Norwegian records. I found none.
You will probably also notice also a dearth of men named Charles or Richard -- those just aren't typical Norwegian names. So perhaps the "Boese" family changed their names. Even "Boese" is probably a change in spelling from the original Norwegian version AND it is more likely to have reference to a FARM where the family had lived.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2008 : 09:35:36
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Charles could be Carl? Worth a try.
Carl Boes. (Boesen) in Christiania (Oslo) age 17 in 1865, parents and two brothers Martin and Julius.
This one looks more promising, born march 23 christened Mai 26. 1850 in Aker old church in Oslo.
The father has two last names, Berger Boesen, not sure about the fathers first name and the mothers lastname, but it´s not important;
Carl Fredrik born to ? Berger Boesen and Gunild Marie ? datter, they lived at Briskeby, right page 3. from bottom
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 13/09/2008 : 23:08:43
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| Berger Boesen was "Smed" (Blacksmith) and the last name of the mother is Pedersdatter. |
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 13/09/2008 23:11:21 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 14/09/2008 : 00:04:26
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Have you ruled out the German track?
You could be looking for Karl Friedrich Böse, born in Germany...
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 14/09/2008 00:05:26 |
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Sheena Boese
Junior member
New Zealand
32 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2008 : 14:04:12
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Originally posted by jwiborg
Have you ruled out the German track?
You could be looking for Karl Friedrich Böse, born in Germany...
Jan Peter
Hi Jan
We are definitely from the German Empire/Poland /Prussia but Charles Frederick Boese was born in Norway according to the documents I have, however his father may not have been. Have just recently had the thought that he may be Carl/Karl but had been looking for spelling variations on Frederick/Friedrich. The Carl Boesen aged 17 in Christiana, Oslo is interesting as the birth dates are about right and I need to check, but I think a Martin Boese arrived on a ship into New Zealand around 1880.
Will keep you posted. Many Thanks for all the leads! |
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Sheena Boese
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 12:26:59
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Martin Boesen aged 20, Machinist, did arrive into Wellington, New Zealand with his wife Martha also aged 20, in very early February 1871 on the Celaeno, which left Gravesend, England on October 14th 1870. They are both from Norway. There is also another Boesen (Bosen) listed as a passenger on this sailing but no other details other than the surname. I am interested in whether anyone can help me out with the ship that may have left Norway into England and a passenger/emigration list to connect with the Celaeno from Gravesend to NZ.
A Mr Paul Boese/Mr Borse and friend Mr Drosa arrived 2 years later on the Celaeno 30th December 1872 or January 1873. |
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Sheena Boese
Junior member
New Zealand
32 Posts |
Posted - 14/10/2008 : 12:32:10
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| This Martin Boesen is also the right age to correspond with the census dates and has descendents with the name Christopher, which would relate to his father. We were always told that Charles Frederick emigrated with a brother, however currently this information does not confirm this (until I find more information on the shipping and emigration lists) or match with the Fathers name of Richard Frederick Boese. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 14/10/2008 : 18:59:43
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Machinist Martin Boesen (19) and wife Marte Andersdatter (20) left Oslo on Oct. 06th, 1870, headed for Wellington, New Zealand.
Martin & Marte married in the Oslo Dome just 4 days prior to the emigration, on 02 Oct 1870.
Martin Boesen
Birth: 31 May 1851
Father: Overkonstabel (police sergeant) Overkonduktør (railway conductor) Christopher Boesen
Marthe Andersdatter
Birth: 17 Dec 1847
Father: Anders Andersen
He is from Kristiania (Oslo), she is from Romedal, Hedmark.
Source:Oslo county, Oslo Domkirke, Parish register (official) nr. 21 (1865-1884), Marriage records 1870, page 117, #103.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 16/10/2008 19:05:30 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 14/10/2008 : 19:29:46
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Martin Kristoffersen
Birth: 31 May 1851
Christening: 08 FEB 1852, Domkirken, Oslo, Akershus
Parents: Christopher Boeson & Anne Matthilde Hansen
Source: Oslo county, Oslo Domkirke, Parish register (official) nr. 14 (1850-1857), Birth and baptism records 1852, page 87.
Carl Ludvig Kristoffersen
Birth: 02 Apr 1849
Christening: 28 MAY 1849, Domkirken, Oslo, Akershus
Parents: Christopher Boesen & Marthe Matthild Hansdr
Source: Oslo county, Oslo Domkirke, Parish register (official) nr. 13 (1844-1864), Birth and baptism records 1849, page 217.
Could Carl Ludvig be Charles Frederick?
Children of Boe Hansen & Marie Gudmundsdr:
Hans Boesen, chr 14 JAN 1810 Sør Odal, Hedmark
Niels Boesen, chr 03 NOV 1811 Sør Odal, Hedmark
Berger Boesen, chr 28 JUL 1816 Sør Odal, Hedmark
Christopher Boesen, chr 22 JUL 1821 Nord Odal, Hedmark
Ole Boesen, chr 26 OCT 1823 Nord Odal, Hedmark
Birthe Boesdatter, chr 19 FEB 1826 Nord Odal, Hedmark
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 15/10/2008 : 01:40:56
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Here is Carl Frederick Boesen (found above) in the 1865 census.
Father Berger Boesen must be the brother of Christopher Boesen.
Children of Berger Boesen & Gunild Marie Pedersdr:
Marie, born 1847
Carl Frederick
Birth: 23 Mar 1850, Oslo, Akershus
Christening: 26 May 1850, Gamle Aker church, Oslo, Akershus
Pouline Bolette
Birth: 08 Aug 1853, Oslo, Akershus
Christening: 04 Sep 1853, Gamle Aker church, Oslo, Akershus
Emma Antonette
Birth: 06 Sep 1855, Oslo, Akershus
Christening: 27 Jan 1856, Gamle Aker church, Oslo, Akershus
Julie, born 1858
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Sheena Boese
Junior member
New Zealand
32 Posts |
Posted - 16/10/2008 : 12:21:35
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Wow You Are GOOD!!!
I guess it helps knowing Norwegian and finding your way around Digitalarkivet. I think you are onto my GG Grandfather for me Except Martin Boesen had 2 brothers Carl aged 17(Record No 13908 19 in 1865 census) and Julius aged 7 according to Digititalarkivet. I think he may be the Carl I am looking for. My GG Grandfather Charles Frederick' s father was a Police Constable, however the name we have is Richard Frederick (maybe this is incorrect), this is according to information on his death certificate. How did you find the middle name of the other Carl Frederick you came across? How do I find out the middle name of the Carl Boes. on record no 13908 and is it possible to find out if he emigrated to New Zealand, probably 1872 but could have been end 1871 or beginning 1873. I am so excited if this is him as I had hit a brick wall with my research. Charles Frederick was killed (manslaughter) in 1882, 10 years after arriving in NZ so he does not have much history here and we would like to put a gravestone on his unmarked grave in Wanganui - with his correct name and d.o.b. and hopefully the name of the ship he sailed on. Thank you very much for all you help. Can you help me some more? Gratefully, Sheena Boese.
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg
Here is Carl Frederick Boesen (found above) in the 1865 census.
Father Berger Boesen must be the brother of Christopher Boesen.
Children of Berger Boesen & Gunild Marie Pedersdr:
Marie, born 1847
Carl Frederick
Birth: 23 Mar 1850, Oslo, Akershus
Christening: 26 May 1850, Gamle Aker church, Oslo, Akershus
Pouline Bolette
Birth: 08 Aug 1853, Oslo, Akershus
Christening: 04 Sep 1853, Gamle Aker church, Oslo, Akershus
Emma Antonette
Birth: 06 Sep 1855, Oslo, Akershus
Christening: 27 Jan 1856, Gamle Aker church, Oslo, Akershus
Julie, born 1858
Jan Peter
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 16/10/2008 : 12:54:58
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Carl Frederick's middle name is from his christening record
Source: Oslo county, Aker, Parish register copy nr. 9 (1848-1852), Birth and baptism records 1850, page 78-79.
(3rd last entry, right page)
To recap, both brothers Christopher & Berger Boesen has sons named Carl, one is Carl Ludvig, the other is Carl Frederick.
Railway conductor Christopher Boesen, chr 22 JUL 1821 Nord Odal, Hedmark
Anne Hansdatter, wife, born 1815, Land, Oppland
Carl Ludvig Boesen, son, born 02 Apr 1849, Oslo, Akershus
Martin Boesen, son, born 31 May 1851, Oslo, Akershus. Emigrated to Wellington, New Zealand on Oct. 06th, 1870.
Julius Boesen, son, born 1859, Eidsvold, Akershus
(could be more children...)
Blacksmith Berger Boesen, chr 28 JUL 1816 Sør Odal, Hedmark
Gunild Marie Pedersdatter, wife born 1827, Aker, Akershus
Marie, born 1847
Carl Frederick, born 23 Mar 1850, Oslo, Akershus
Pouline Bolette, born 08 Aug 1853, Oslo, Akershus
Emma Antonette, born 06 Sep 1855, Oslo, Akershus
Julie, born 1858
(could be more children...)
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Edited by - jwiborg on 16/10/2008 19:06:45 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 16/10/2008 : 17:59:07
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Please excuse me for being a nit-picker, but I have a couple of comments regarding Christopher Boeson:
In 1849 when Carl Ludvig was baptized he was "Opsynsmand paa Slottet" - supervisor at the Royal Castle - and they lived in Grændsen.
In 1852 when Martin was baptized he was "Arbeidsmand" - worker and they lived at Holmen.
In the 1865 census he was "Jernbaneconductør" - railway conductor and they were living in Store Vognmandsgade.
In 1870 when Martin married he was "Overkonduktør" - head railway conductor.
- I don't see where it is said that he was a police constable, have I missed something? |
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 16/10/2008 18:24:34 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 16/10/2008 : 19:01:22
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Originally posted by eibache
I don't see where it is said that he was a police constable, have I missed something?
You're right, Christopher Boesen's profession was railway conductor. I read it too fast... I guess I read what I wanted to read, instead of the actual print... 
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 16/10/2008 19:01:46 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 16/10/2008 : 20:20:09
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Berger and Christopher Boesens parents, Boe Hansen and Maria Gudmundsdatter, were married Nov 9 1809, see last record in left column, right hand page.
Boe was baptized Oct 3 1784, see #2 from the top in right column on right hand page.
His parents were Hans Boesen Qværnstuen and Marthe Nielsdatter.
Hans Boesen was baptized March 31 1754, see top of left column, left hand page, his father was Boe Pedersen Lund and the mother Marit Hansdatter, who was married Jan 4 1745, see 4th record from top in left column, left hand page. Boe was a sergeant and Marit came from Trøsie.
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Edited by - eibache on 16/10/2008 21:01:38 |
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Boese - Charles Frederick Emigrated to New Zealand
