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Sharyn Holberg-Newnham
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 Posted - 24/01/2010 : 00:15:41
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I have been looking to find my grandfather's brother. His name is Otto Johansen born Feb 8, 1882 as indicated on a 1900 census for Spind circuit in Vest-Agder, Norway. He was on a farm named Kleiven/Forberg with his parents Johan Georg Halberg year of birth 1842 and mother Welene (Velene as noted in other areas) Willumsdatter year of birth 1852. My grandfather's name was Johannes Wilhelm Halberg - DOB May 19/1884 - who moved to Winnipeg, MB, Canada in 1903/04 where he married my grandmother Hulda Appelkvist from Varmland, Sweden.
Johan Georg Halberg was born in Lund, Skane Sweden.
Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide in this regard.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 24/01/2010 : 12:04:59
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What do you mean when you say you are "looking to find"? You then say you have already found him on the 1900 Norwegian census.
What other record did you hope to find? |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 24/01/2010 : 15:33:32
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You refer to this 1900 census telling that your g-grandfather was Swedish.
Your g-grandmother Welene Willumsdatter was born Jan 19 1850, see #6, and she was confirmed 1864, see #26 Velene Villasdatter.
Her father was Villas Vilhelmsen and the mother Anne Gurine Olsdatter.
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Edited by - eibache on 25/01/2010 07:40:43 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 24/01/2010 : 16:25:02
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You have probably seen your gradfathers baptismal record, if not it is #11.
Your grandfathers brother was confirmed Oct 4 1896, see #4 he was born in Bakke Parish and was living at Fureberg when confirmed.
His baptismal record is #6
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Edited by - eibache on 24/01/2010 16:37:02 |
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Sharyn Holberg-Newnham
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Canada
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Posted - 25/01/2010 : 05:13:53
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Originally posted by Hopkins
What do you mean when you say you are "looking to find"? You then say you have already found him on the 1900 Norwegian census.
What other record did you hope to find?
Thanks for replying to my message. Yes I had found him on the 1900 census but I am trying to move forward to see what happened to him. Whether he married or moved to another area. My trail ends at this point. Can you help? Thanks in advance |
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Sharyn Holberg-Newnham
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Canada
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Posted - 25/01/2010 : 05:16:11
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Originally posted by eibache
You refer to this 1900 census telling that your g-grandfather was Swedish.
Your g-grandmother Welene Willumsdatter was born Jan 19 1850, see #4, and she was confirmed 1864, see #26 Velene Villasdatter.
Her father was Villas Villumsen and the mother Anne Gurine Olsdatter.
Thank you for finding this info on Welene - the names change quite frequently I note. Thanks for finding her parents. Did not see this info before.
Yes apparently my great grandfather was born in Lund, Skane Sweden but cannot seem to find him there or anywhere. Have not been able to locate any of his family. Would love to know if he had brothers or sisters and his parents. |
Edited by - Sharyn Holberg-Newnham on 25/01/2010 05:19:01 |
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 25/01/2010 : 08:15:44
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I've noticed that the hyperlink to your g-grandmother was not right, it is now corrected. So is also the name of your g-g-grandfather, Velenes father, Villas Vilhelmsen, who was from Meelhuus outside Egersund.
Velenes mother was from Teistedal and was living at Roustad. |
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Sharyn Holberg-Newnham
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 05:46:42
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Originally posted by Hopkins
What do you mean when you say you are "looking to find"? You then say you have already found him on the 1900 Norwegian census.
What other record did you hope to find?
I actually was hoping to find out where Otto ended up. Can't seem to find any record of him after 1900.
Also I was hoping to find my g-grandparents - Johan Georg and Velene Villadsdatter or Villumsdatter - cannot find out where they ended up and any record of their deaths. Also was hoping to find out if Johan and Velene had any other children besides Otto and Johan Wilhelm (my grandfather). |
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Sharyn Holberg-Newnham
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 05:52:46
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Originally posted by eibache
I've noticed that the hyperlink to your g-grandmother was not right, it is now corrected. So is also the name of your g-g-grandfather, Velenes father, Villas Vilhelmsen, who was from Meelhuus outside Egersund.
Velenes mother was from Teistedal and was living at Roustad.
Velene and Johan married July 11, 1880 Flekkefjord, Vest-Agder Norway.
Also I was wondering if Velene and Johan had other children besides Otto and my grandfather Johannes Wilhelm.
Haven't been able to locate any death records on Velene or Johan. My grandfather on his 1916 war records indicated next of kin as his mother living in Farsund.
Does any of this help? I really appreciate your help. Thanks. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 08:08:54
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It is very unlikely that Johan and Velene had more than the two sons.
I have searched for death records but no hit.
In the marriage record is stated that Johan Georg Hallberg was born in Ystad, Sweden. Ystad is not far from Lund. |
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Edited by - eibache on 02/02/2010 10:25:38 |
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Sharyn Holberg-Newnham
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Posted - 03/02/2010 : 03:12:32
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Originally posted by eibache
It is very unlikely that Johan and Velene had more than the two sons.
I have searched for death records but no hit.
In the marriage record is stated that Johan Georg Hallberg was born in Ystad, Sweden. Ystad is not far from Lund.
Thank you so much for your help so far. Is this natural not to be able to find any info. Maybe with the 1910 census coming out it will give more info. Will keep searching. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 03/02/2010 : 08:19:28
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Is this natural not to be able to find any info
- I would not call it "natural" but it may be difficult at times and it depends on how much time you spend searching.
I don't know if you read the records I have given you, but they give some info.
The marriage record is #11.
If you would like to have info "translated" on the records you got so far, please ask. |
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Sharyn Holberg-Newnham
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Posted - 04/02/2010 : 02:11:53
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Originally posted by eibache
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Is this natural not to be able to find any info
- I would not call it "natural" but it may be difficult at times and it depends on how much time you spend searching.
I don't know if you read the records I have given you, but they give some info.
The marriage record is #11.
If you would like to have info "translated" on the records you got so far, please ask.
Yes thanks for the record. It would be nice to have it translated thank you.
Why would there be only the two sons? Also I just happened to think that Johannes Wilhelm (my grandfather) was not at this farm on the 1900 census. He would have been age 16. I had read in some of the researching that men were expected to go into the military at ages 16 to 18 is this correct? Maybe he was in the military and away. A guess. Do you have any suggestions where I might search further for records. I haven't been able to find any other than the digitalarkivet. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/02/2010 : 08:54:52
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Your fathers baptismal record is #11 it says that he was born May 19 1884 and baptized Johannes Vilhelm on June 15. His parents were Stone mason Johan Jørg. Halberg (born 1838) and Velene Villumsdatter (born 1852) and they were living at the Sævig in Spind, Vest-Agder.
Johannes Vilhelm Johansen was confirmed in 1898, see #2.
The baptismal record for his older brother #6 says he was born Febr 8 1882 and baptized Otto on March 12. His parents were mason Johan Johannesen Halberg at the time at Mjaasund in Bakke, Vest-Agder and Velene Vilhelmsdatter.
The parents marriage record #11 says bachelor and mason Johan Georg Hallberg born in Ystad in Sweden in 1838, living in Flekkefjord and maiden Velene Villadsdatter born at Reidstad in Flekkefjord 1850 were married July 11? 1880. Velenes father was Villads Vilhelmsen. |
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Edited by - eibache on 04/02/2010 09:14:06 |
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eibache
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Posted - 04/02/2010 : 09:13:28
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Your g-grandmothers baptismal record #6 says she was born out of wedlock Jan 19 1850 and baptized Villine Febr 3. Her father was bachelor Villas Vilhelmsen from Meelhuus outside Egersund and the mother maiden Anne Gurine Olsdatter from Teistedal, living at Roustad. Her father Ole Andreasen, Teistedal had given the information of the childs birth.
Velene Villasdatter was a fosterchild at Teistedal in 1865.
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Edited by - eibache on 04/02/2010 09:26:02 |
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Sharyn Holberg-Newnham
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Posted - 06/02/2010 : 04:48:33
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Originally posted by eibache
Your g-grandmothers baptismal record #6 says she was born out of wedlock Jan 19 1850 and baptized Villine Febr 3. Her father was bachelor Villas Vilhelmsen from Meelhuus outside Egersund and the mother maiden Anne Gurine Olsdatter from Teistedal, living at Roustad. Her father Ole Andreasen, Teistedal had given the information of the childs birth.
Velene Villasdatter was a fosterchild at Teistedal in 1865.
So this would be the same girl - just different spellings. Thanks for your info.
Do you have any ideas as to where I might search for Otto Johansen son of Johan Jorge Hallberg?
I hope I am not imposing on you too much but you have helped me a great deal.
Not sure what other questions to ask, we seem to be stalled with regards to where Otto went and finding his father Johan Georg (Jorge) Hallberg. I will keep searching and hopefully find something. Any hints as how to look?
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