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davidcarlsen
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 Posted - 01/04/2011 : 08:50:05
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Looking for birth record to get parent's names. Marriage record is 1793 Vestfold, Hof page 83 to Jan Jonsen.
Birth record for 1 child is 2 Nov 1799 Vestfold, Hof page 108. Have looked several times but can't identify this person in birth records. I'm not even positive of the first name when I look at the marriage record. Is it possibly a contraction of Kristine? |
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eibache
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Posted - 01/04/2011 : 10:10:36
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The marriage record for Jan Jonsen in Hof Vestfold (page 83) is dated Jan 25 1794 and he married Stiine Andersdatter from Eidsfoss. (They were engaged to be married Oct 25 1793)
Their first child was Andreas, baptized Febr 23 1794, see top record on right page.
Cild born in 1799, (Jon or Jan) was their 3rd child.
The family in 1801 - husband Jan Jonsen now called Jan Warme.
Since Stine is 26 years in 1801, her birth year should be 1775.
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Edited by - eibache on 04/04/2011 11:39:20 |
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eibache
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Posted - 01/04/2011 : 16:38:29
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I found a death record for Stine Andersdatter, Eidsfos Oct 12 1843, see #9 1843.
Her age was 78 years, this indicates she was born 1765.
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 01/04/2011 : 19:14:04
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| Thanks, Einar. I will follow up on these and see what else I can find. I am trying to get parent names if I can. |
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 02/04/2011 : 00:12:54
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| On page 178 Hof, Vestfold 1746-1781 births, there is an entry for a child born to a father Anders Larsen Mother Karen Jensdatter in 1775 which would be right for Stine based on 1801 census and I do not see the name. What do you make of that? I see no other Stine in 17765 or a few years on either side. I also looked for a birth record from 1764 through 1766 and found none. |
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eibache
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Posted - 02/04/2011 : 05:33:24
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The baptism was for their son, no name given, probably forgot to do the entry.
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 02/04/2011 : 08:05:34
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| So much for the idea that may have been Stine. Do you have any other ideas on figuring out who her parents may have been - other than finding the birth record? |
Edited by - davidcarlsen on 02/04/2011 08:19:58 |
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eibache
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Posted - 02/04/2011 : 14:10:32
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Some times a confirmation record (at the age of 14-18 years) may be useful. In this case it is not.
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 02/04/2011 : 22:29:10
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| Because there is no record or because parents not listed? |
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eibache
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Posted - 04/04/2011 : 11:51:29
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| Because parents are not listed. |
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 31/03/2012 : 00:33:27
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| I have not found a confirmation record - did you find one at one time, Einar? |
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eibache
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Posted - 31/03/2012 : 06:50:42
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| Did not search for it. The info you was looking for did not exist in this periode. |
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 26/11/2013 : 07:14:03
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I am looking again at this information to try and follow all the possible leads to information on Stine Andersd.
The following record is a good fit for her birth event other than it is apparently for a son who was unnamed.
I would like to see a complete translation of this baptism record :
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8132&idx_id=8132&uid=ny&idx_side=-91
June 4th baptism by Anders Larsen on right page.
I understand the names but not the other descriptive words .
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eibache
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Posted - 26/11/2013 : 14:54:57
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June 4th (døbt) baptized for Anders Larsen and Karen Jensdatter
(Søn) son (no name given)
(Faddere) Witnesses. (Madame) Misses Bredsdorff, (Jomfrue) Maiden Stundt, (Proviant Skriwer) Provisions recorder Jahr, Erich Thoresen (Rulle Skriwer) Roll recorder, Johannes Jensen (Bælgmager) Bellowmaker.
If this son was their first male baby he would probably have been named Lars Andersen.
From the witnesses it seem likely that Anders Larsen was working on Eidsfos Jernværk.
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 31/08/2021 : 22:26:09
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| Bringing this topic up again. Stine has been linked to this birth record by others : https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070402610037 . Top left. I'm not sure I'm convinced as this is Skoger parish ? and the marriage record I referred to which began this post - link here : https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070402660235 right page 1794 as Einar pointed out says Stine was from Eidsfoss. On the other hand, I have exhaustively searched the Hof records for Stine birth record and find none. The other complication for me is that the Skoger record is 1770 which does not fit with either the 1801 census record cited above (too old by 5 years) nor the death record cited above (too young by 5 years). My inclination at this point is to not accept this link as the parents of Stine but unfortunately that doesn't accomplish much as I have nothing else to propose. As a last element, I note that a witness at the birth of Marthe Jansd, 5th child of Stine : https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070402660257 left side #14 is a Marthe Pedersd - proposed as the name of Stine's mother and this grandchild's namesake grandmother. I would be interested in any information anyone might see that I easily may have missed. I can understand that there may be errors and discrepancies in records but missing by 5 years - especially when there is very complete information about all the children births - seems a stretch. Even though it's tedious, there sre records during this time period so I'm looking for any ideas on where I might search. |
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Stine Andersdatter - Vestfold abt 1774
