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Joshuastendahl
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 15/02/2013 : 13:36:20
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I have two different Great Great Great Grandfathers both came with the last name Knutson and both from Kvietstad.
First is Andrew Knutson born Sept. 23 1832 in Kvietstad married to Margarat Halvorson. Margaret was born in 1832. Their children were Knut A Knutson born June 24th 1852, Carrie Knutson, Julia Knutson born Sept 14 1860, Mary Knutson, and Margaret Knutson.
The second is Aslack Knutson born May 17 1828 in Kvietstad and married to Hannah Diana Hendrickson. She was from Porugard. Their children were Guro Knutson born Sept 6 1853 in Kvietstad, Henry Knutson, Knudt Knutson, John Knutson, and Anna Knutson.
My first question is whether or not Andrew and Aslack were related. Second is just looking for any additional information. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 15/02/2013 : 15:09:25
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What US records have you already investigated to try to work on these families? There are simple steps you could take yourself to improve your information.
For example, try using the free website searches at familysearch.org
I just entered a quick and easy search there for Aslak Knudsen born 1828 in Norway with a spouse with surname Henriksdatter. The databases came back with the correct spelling of the location in Norway and clarification of what part of Norway you are looking at, a listing of the exact date of marriage between those two and entries for what appear to be the birhs of a long list of children. It also returned what appears to be more detailed information on Aslak Knudsen, his date and location of birth and the names of his parents.
We know the naming as listed above in your query does not reflect the traditional naming patterns so the notes must have been written later by someone not really familiar with them and probably also unfamiliar with the location in Norway these ancestors actually came from -- perhaps trying to spell out what someone had verbalized.
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Edited by - Hopkins on 15/02/2013 15:22:48 |
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Joshuastendahl
Junior member
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 15/02/2013 : 15:24:48
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I was taking the information from the obituaries I have...the obituaries both reference Kvietstad but each is spelled differently. Each is listed in Upper Telmaken. I have done searches on Familysearch.org but because of the naming, Knutson being a common name in the states and open to interpretation on the writer I am hoping for some additional information. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 15/02/2013 : 15:51:41
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Aslak born Mai 5. 1828 on Stensrud in Kviteseid; Parents Knud Aslaksen and Guro Andersdatter #12
Andrew-Anders
I have an Anders born on Stensrud Sept. 8. bap. Sept. 22. 1823 to the same parents #23
Anders Knudsen age 25 born on Stensrud married Margit Halvorsdatter Rui age 27 born on Homme on April 25. 1849. Fathers; Knud Aslaksen and Halvor Johnsen, #6
Kċre |
Edited by - Kċarto on 15/02/2013 17:02:49 |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 15/02/2013 : 16:34:04
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Their son Knud born June 26. 1852 in Kviteseid and not in Seljord (Silgjord) as in the 1865 census belowe.
The family moved to Seljord
Anders Knudsen and Margit Halvorsdatter as farmers on one of the three Ĝverland farms in 1865; Children; Knud, Kari, Guro and Mari, link
Kċre |
Edited by - Kċarto on 15/02/2013 18:48:30 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 15/02/2013 : 18:15:34
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Joshua -- Familysearch.org handles spelling variations without a blink. You noticed the difference between what you first offered and what I entered into a search there? It didn't miss a beat. If you don't even try -- how do you know?
These persons are from Telemark, Norway. |
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Joshuastendahl
Junior member
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 16/02/2013 : 16:48:39
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Hopkins... I agree familysearch.org is a great resource but the problem with it is spelling variations are also a problem given most of it's records are census data; etc... and many times it was up to the recorder to spell the persons name. For example in this case Knudtson or Knutson... there are about 10 different families where I live now (in Wisconsin) with the last name Knudtson and most of them are not related. I wish and what I'm going to work on doing is better understanding the Norwegian search engines; what a great resource. It's going to take me a while but the information I've been able to get here far surpasses anything I've been able to find on familysearch.org. I've appreciated every bit of it.
As far as what Kare has above; I believe that is the correct family... Overland farms; I looked it up on the internet and it said those were unnamed farms... is there a better definition? |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 16/02/2013 : 17:20:33
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Anders Knudsen Ĝverland em. with wife and 5 children on Bark Rjukan 1869, see #12
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 16/02/2013 : 18:11:35
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Aslak Knudsen, Ĝverland (23) married Hanna Dine Henriksdatter (26) Nov 24 1851, #13.
Aslak's parents in 1865.
Hana Dine Henriksdatter was born Oct 10 1826, #5 - her parents were sailor Henrik Johnsen and Christiane Olsdatter.
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 16/02/2013 : 20:02:23
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quote: Originally posted by Joshuastendahl
Overland farms; I looked it up on the internet and it said those were unnamed farms... is there a better definition?
Ĝverland means the Upper land (The upper farm), probably refers to a hillside, the upper farm in the hillside or on a ridge.
Ĝverland is a common family name in present Norway.
The farm name Stensrud comes from the mans name Sten (Stein) means Stone. The ending Rud, present rydde, means to "Rydde land" clear the land. Sten as the first settler cleared the land and his farm was called Stensrud.
Named Steinsrud in the 1900 census.
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Edited by - Kċarto on 16/02/2013 20:31:48 |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 16/02/2013 : 20:47:14
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Interesting information searching Steinsrud and Anders Knutsson. Anders Knutsen 1869 em. with Margit and 3 children. Children; 2 died on Ĝverland, 2 born in USA.
Anders died 1910. Lots of info from Kviteseid "Ĉttesoga" on Anders, his brother Aslak and the family here
Kċre |
Edited by - Kċarto on 16/02/2013 20:54:24 |
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Joshuastendahl
Junior member
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 17/02/2013 : 16:28:01
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The "Ĉttesoga" website is great... thank you for that.
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 17/02/2013 : 19:02:36
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You are welcome.
Kviteseid Ĉttesoge contains 10.000 names and is owned by the municipality. I am not sure but believe that members with family ties to Kviteseid have access to additional information. Its free to login, link
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Edited by - Kċarto on 17/02/2013 19:03:14 |
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Joshuastendahl
Junior member
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 17/02/2013 : 20:31:20
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I was able to start an account... Pretty crazy; there is info on there tracing that part of my family back to before 1530 and it would appear some living relatives still in Kviteseid. Again, thank you very much. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 17/02/2013 : 23:02:56
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That is amazing. This is what makes genealogy so facinating.
I guess you have lots of relatives in Kviteseid
The lakes in this part of Telemark are connected to the coastal town Skien where so many emigrants from Telemark used as em. port after having rented row boats that brought them down the many lakes to the sea. The first lock next to the town, Lĝveid, was build ca 1860. Kċre |
Edited by - Kċarto on 17/02/2013 23:04:30 |
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