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Ron Iverson
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 Posted - 06/02/2015 : 05:42:08
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Hello - I am hoping to find information on a period of my grandmother's life in Norway when she seems to disappear from the record. She grew up on her family's farm at Nedre Moksvold (various spellings) in Hordaland, Lindaas commune. Her confirmation on 30 Oct 1886 is recorded in the parish register for Lygre, near her home. The next record I can find is 21 years later, 12 Sep 1907, in the Lygre parish register, a record of the pending emigration of "pige Andrine Johnsdtr, Moksvold". On 17 Sep she married my grandfather in the Nykirken, Bergen, and they emigrated a few weeks later to Washington State, USA.
I have not found her in 1891 nor 1900 Norway censuses, nor any other record in that 21-year period. Help would be welcome. |
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eibache
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Posted - 06/02/2015 : 10:12:40
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She grew up on her family's farm at Nedre Moksvold (various spellings) in Hordaland, Lindaas commune.
I believe you should use Nedre Myksvoll as the name on the farm, see map - zoom and pan to your liking.
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peder
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Posted - 06/02/2015 : 10:59:53
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Joen [Jon, John] Christiansen, Myksvoll
• b. 10 Feb 1840 Tvedtenes, Storetvedt, Bergen, Norway
• d. 28 Dec 1919 Myksvoll
• m. to Synneve Larsdatter, Aase-Seim b. 1845, dau. of Lars Johansen and Kristi Larsdatter, Aase, Desc. of " Aamund Larsson, Seim who's ancestors were chieftains at Seim-Aase. They owned a great deal of land in the the northern part of Hordaland country." [a quote from p. 16 in the book Myksvoll, Tweedt ,Tweet by Fredna Tweedt Irvine- 1984. Connected to King Magnus IV Erlingson [Rule Norway 1161-1184]
• Issue:
1. Andrina Christine Johnsdatter, Myksvoll m. Hans Fosse
2. C. [Carl] Ludwig Johnsen, Myksvoll m. (1) Johanna Jonsdatter, Sletten, m. (2) Susanna Taule
3. Hanna Johnsdatter, Myksvoll m. Ivar Iverson
4. 4. Malena Johnsdatter, Myksvoll m. Johannes Olsen Fosse, Meland
5. Josephine Sofie Johsdatter, Myksvoll m. Karl Brakstad
6. L. [Larina] Christina Johnsdatter, Myksvoll [Myksvold, Maxvold] m. John Johansen [Engebritsen]
http://www.remmick.org/Hubert.Vikings/Page12.html#1
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peder
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 06/02/2015 : 14:17:34
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The additional information helps a lot, giving us more search terms and identifiers - but still, where is Andrine in the 1900 census?
1875 she is living with her maternal grandparents Lars Johannesen & Kristi Larsdatter:
Andrine Kristine Johnsdatter, b 1871 Hammers S. og Pr.
Next door are her parents and little brother:
John Kristianssen Møsvold, b 1840 Birkelands S Fane
Synneva Larsdatter, b 1845
Karl Ludvig Johnssen b 1874 Lyre S. Lindaas Pr
Departing Bergen 26 Oct 1907 her name is transcribed as Andrine Kristine Fosse? født Johnsen, birth place Lindaas and residence Lygre Lindaas - destination Amk. Wancover Br C and traveling with Hans O Fosse, whose residence is State of Wash. He has been home on a visit.
According to an online family history, Andrine's paternal grandparents emigrated to Walnut Grove, Minnesota. Does family know if she could be abroad or married in a first marriage? (No, her marriage record says it is her first.) Or her name is transcribed in such a way that it doesn't pop right up.
1900 census
Møksvold nedre, Lindaas herred
John Kristiansen
Synneva Larsdatter Møksvold
Ludvig Jonsen Møksvold
Josefine Jonsdtr Møksvold
Krestine Jonsdtr Møksvold b 1888
----- Andrine not with the family.
Link
1910 census Andrine's brother Karl Ludvig has the farm and their widowed father lives there still:
Ludvig Jonsen b 04.07.1874 Lindaas....and Jon Kristiansen b 10.02.1839 Fane herred |
Edited by - JaneC on 07/02/2015 20:51:18 |
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Ron Iverson
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Posted - 07/02/2015 : 00:47:03
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An interesting possibility raised by JaneC: that she might have emigrated for a time to the USA, where her grandparents, two uncles and an aunt were living. I have located the households of those family members in the 1900 Federal USA census, and state censuses for Minnesota. She was not living in any of those households, nor do I find her in a general search of the 1900 USA census. Nor do I find her in the Emigranter fro Bergen in the Digitalarkivet, until she appears with husband Hans Fosse in 1907. No recollections among our family members that she ever left Norway before 1907. In the 1910 census, living in Whatcom County, Washington State (last name recorded as "Foose"), she claimed to have been in the USA just a few years.
So thanks to all for your work, but the mystery remains.
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Ron Iverson
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Posted - 08/02/2015 : 03:54:13
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| In hope of maintaining interest in this topic: My grandmother's marriage Sep 1907 - at age 36 - to my grandfather was described, in the Nykirken register, as her and his first marriage. But in the database Emigranter fro Bergen 1874-1930, entry for 26 Oct 1907, her occupation is described as "forr hustru" which I take to stand for forrige hustru = former wife, or previously wife. So, could be there was another marriage sometime in that unexplained 21 years. |
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eibache
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Posted - 08/02/2015 : 09:53:48
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"Lysning" for marriage does not give any indication either that Andrine Kristine had been married before.
Interesting info: The weding took place at the office 13:30 on Sept 19.
right page.
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Edited by - eibache on 08/02/2015 09:54:53 |
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Ron Iverson
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Posted - 09/02/2015 : 03:36:12
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In Einar's first post above, noting the family farm is at Nedre Myksvoll, a map is provided. If you start at the red "pin" in the map, and proceed to the northwest on the dead-end side road labeled Titlandsveien: the farm where Andrine Johnsdatter grew up - still owned by my family - is on the north side of the road, where it bends round to the southwest. Three buildings - a house, storage building, and a stone barn built in the 1700s. The 4th building shown is a neighbor's house.
My grandfather's family lived at Titland, further down Titlandsveien. He, however, was illegitimate and raised as a foster child on a farm in Yttre Fosse, near Alversund. |
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Andrine Christiane Johnsdatter
