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dylankylesimon
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 Posted - 15/08/2022 : 04:35:50
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Tore, I actually also have not one DNA match from Norway on Ancestry.com - Is it not used in Norway? Which DNA tests are commonly used in Norway?
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/08/2022 : 16:13:32
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But why would you compare DNA with Hans' descendants? He was a brother of Peter Simon, right? So a positive match would only prove that noone was deceived?
But, as I said above, Peder Olsen Nymoen appears to have a good share of descendants in a purely paternal line. Here is a page showing his son Andreas' offspring a little into the ineteen hundreds: https://ibb.co/ngVjyqG
Added all of the Smedshammer Family to my Family Tree. Also, added and messaged R. Smedshammer and added O. Smedshammer, both sons of Arvid. If we somehow can manage to get a DNA test done or someone in their family already did, that would be a big find.
Rune Smedshammer was still working at Ringerikes Blad in 2021 age 62! Search at www.1881.no for mailing address and phone. There are two Rune but take the one in Honefoss. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/08/2022 : 02:26:53
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[quote]Originally posted by dylankylesimon
Tore, I actually also have not one DNA match from Norway on Ancestry.com - Is it not used in Norway? Which DNA tests are commonly used in Norway?
It seems to me that my mother told after her trip to Ringerike in 1986 that there were some local legends among the people there were some Finn ancestry on certain farms in Ringerike. |
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ToreL
Advanced member
Norway
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Posted - 16/08/2022 : 07:16:11
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I believe Ftdna might be the most widely used dna test provider in Norway, perhaps partly due to Norgesprosjektet: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/norway/about/background
It also seems to me that Norwegians tend to build their trees on MyHeritage rather than Ancestry; there are lots of commercials here for the first and none for the latter. |
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dylankylesimon
Senior member
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Posted - 17/08/2022 : 02:35:22
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Originally posted by jkmarler
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Originally posted by dylankylesimon
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Originally posted by ToreL
But why would you compare DNA with Hans' descendants? He was a brother of Peter Simon, right? So a positive match would only prove that noone was deceived?
But, as I said above, Peder Olsen Nymoen appears to have a good share of descendants in a purely paternal line. Here is a page showing his son Andreas' offspring a little into the ineteen hundreds: https://ibb.co/ngVjyqG
Added all of the Smedshammer Family to my Family Tree. Also, added and messaged R. Smedshammer and added O. Smedshammer, both sons of Arvid. If we somehow can manage to get a DNA test done or someone in their family already did, that would be a big find.
Rune Smedshammer was still working at Ringerikes Blad in 2021 age 62! Search at www.1881.no for mailing address and phone. There are two Rune but take the one in Honefoss.
Thank you! I added him on Facebook and messaged him, but we will see if he responds!
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Originally posted by jkmarler
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Originally posted by dylankylesimon
Tore, I actually also have not one DNA match from Norway on Ancestry.com - Is it not used in Norway? Which DNA tests are commonly used in Norway?
It seems to me that my mother told after her trip to Ringerike in 1986 that there were some local legends among the people there were some Finn ancestry on certain farms in Ringerike.
Well, maybe we can confirm one of those legends! I will try my best!
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Originally posted by ToreL
I believe Ftdna might be the most widely used dna test provider in Norway, perhaps partly due to Norgesprosjektet: www.familytreedna.com/groups/norway/about/background" target="_blank">https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/norway/about/background
It also seems to me that Norwegians tend to build their trees on MyHeritage rather than Ancestry; there are lots of commercials here for the first and none for the latter.
Alright, Tore! As per your recommendation, I just ordered:
- Big Y-700 $399.00
- mtFull Sequence $130.00
Will keep you up to date on the stages! |
Edited by - dylankylesimon on 17/08/2022 02:40:05 |
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dylankylesimon
Senior member
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Posted - 16/09/2022 : 01:39:37
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DNA Test of my granduncle (great-grandson of Peter and Mathea) came back and listed Mathea's and Peter's Birth Locations! If that isn't a confirmation, then what is?
Peter in Norderhov, Buskerud County
Mathea in Ringsaker in Hedmark/Hedemarken
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dylankylesimon
Senior member
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Posted - 20/10/2022 : 08:17:24
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Hello,
I DNA matched with someone who descents from the farm Tranby, and he has a Maria Olsdr born 1803 in his Family tree. Her birth location is listed as an unknown birth location. However, he did have a death in Lunder, Buskerud, on 13 Jan 1871. Maria also This person also lived in Kittelsby in 1838.
Looking at how we may match, I look at Even Olsen, with no certain birth date & place, roughly born in 1815. I looked for parents who would fit both, and these are the parents that I found.
Name: Elisabeth Maria Olsen
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 06 Aug 1803
Baptism Place: Bragernes, Drammen, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Ole Evensen
Mother: Ingeborg Christophersdr
FHL Film Number: 123845
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/3343424:60092?tid=&pid=&queryId=01a45ced8f85a259566c760022c548d7&_phsrc=KHf20407&_phstart=successSource
Name: Even Christian Olsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 18 mai 1816 (18 May 1816)
Baptism Date: 14 okt 1816 (14 Oct 1816)
Baptism Place: Bragernes, Drammen, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Ole Evensen
Mother: Ingeborg Kristofersdr
FHL Film Number: 123847
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/20040459:60092?tid=&pid=&queryId=16e4305b82405647400dc53c639c26e6&_phsrc=KHf20411&_phstart=successSource
Greetings,
Simon
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/10/2022 : 18:57:12
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In this case it may be useful to look at the original records? Looks to me like the mothers name is Ingeborg Christopherdatter?
Even Nr. 85.
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051125010326
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AntonH
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AntonH
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/10/2022 : 20:42:04
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2nd entry 1845 an worker Even Olsen coming into Norderhov, he was born in Stange:
Norderhov kirkebøker, SAKO/A-237/F/Fa/L0010: Parish register (official) no. 10, 1837-1847, p. 475
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051111050432
#64 Even son of Ole Eriksen:
Stange prestekontor, SAH/PREST-002/K/L0008: Parish register (official) no. 8, 1814-1825, p. 47-48
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603150208
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AntonH
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/10/2022 : 23:38:07
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| Most likely. On the inflyttede record I think it says that he coming from the Tugthuset (the work house), was born in Stange on 29 Nov 1817 and is going to Sorumseie. |
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dylankylesimon
Senior member
USA
200 Posts |
Posted - 21/10/2022 : 03:11:31
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I don't recognize any of the names of the ones you both listed, but here is one of the family trees that I DNA matched with, well my granduncle, but its the same lineage. Perhaps you all recognize one. The red square are people born in Norderhov.
Here in large: https://ibb.co/mtn4bHF
I recognize Kittelsby and Tranby from our previous search in this thread.
Here is the one person in large, which out all trees is the most promising to me.
Here in large: https://ibb.co/7rZzthH |
Edited by - dylankylesimon on 21/10/2022 03:19:05 |
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