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MonaArfs
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 Posted - 13/04/2025 : 01:08:00
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My grandfather was probably a passenger on D/S Stavangerfjord from New York to Stavanger, Bergen or Oslo in June 1919. Is it possible to verify this in a passengerlist? His name is Johan Erhard Gustavson, born 1890-04-11 in Sweden.
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Edited by - MonaArfs on 13/04/2025 01:10:07 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/04/2025 : 04:03:42
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. Is it possible to verify this in a passenger list?
Not very likely. The records for passengers on ships from New York to Norway in the 1919 era are essentially non existent. Traveling by ship from Norway to New York you will find a wealth of records but going in the opposite direction there is essentially nothing. Sorry. |
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MonaArfs
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Posted - 13/04/2025 : 10:13:18
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Thank you for your reply.
Are there any records of departures from New York? He made a note that he left NY on the 12th of June 1919. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/04/2025 : 16:45:27
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In a roundabout way, you can check newspapers online which carry news of ship departures and arrivals. This usually does not contain the names of specific individuals but would be just a general verification of the fact of a departure or arrival.
This newspaper
Minneapolis tidende.
Thursday, Jun 05, 1919
Minneapolis, MN
Page: 13
In an ad for the Norske Amerikalinie a departure of 12 June 1919 is given for the Stavangerfjord. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 13/04/2025 16:52:12 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/04/2025 : 21:53:26
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Are there any records of departures from New York? He made a note that he left NY on the 12th of June 1919.
Here is how Google AI Overview answers that question.
"No, U.S. Customs did not systematically keep lists of passengers leaving New York in 1919. While there were records about departing vessels, they were not comparable to the incoming passenger lists at Ellis Island. Specifically, the requirements for keeping lists of outbound passengers were not in place until after 1917, and even then, the records focused on vessel departures rather than individual passenger details,"
"The primary focus of immigration records during this period was on tracking individuals arriving in the United States, as explained on the National Archives website. Lists were kept to manage the flow of immigrants, primarily through ports like Ellis Island, and to ensure they met entry requirements."
"The need for more detailed information about outbound travel became more prominent later, particularly after 1917. This led to the creation of records about departing vessels, but these were primarily registers of vessels rather than comprehensive lists of every passenger."
Link to The National Archives
https://www.archives.gov/research/immigration/passenger-arrival.html |
Edited by - AntonH on 13/04/2025 21:55:26 |
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AntonH
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D/S Stavangerfjord passengerlist 1919
