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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 30/01/2014 : 20:30:54
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Originally posted by NancyB
As a side note, next to them on the 1925 Iowa census is George L. Johnson, age 28, who lists his father as John Johnson, born in Norway and age 75 on last birthday. His mother is Martha Wenos, age 73 last birthday, also born in Norway. Don't think there is a connection because John would have been born around 1850, but neighbors who are Johnsons get my attention.
Hi Nancy - nice to see you again. This family was researched; see page 7. You had hypothesized this was the George who attended Betsy's funeral.
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NancyB
Medium member
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Posted - 31/01/2014 : 02:26:01
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Originally posted by JaneC
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Originally posted by NancyB
As a side note, next to them on the 1925 Iowa census is George L. Johnson, age 28, who lists his father as John Johnson, born in Norway and age 75 on last birthday. His mother is Martha Wenos, age 73 last birthday, also born in Norway. Don't think there is a connection because John would have been born around 1850, but neighbors who are Johnsons get my attention.
Hi Nancy - nice to see you again. This family was researched; see page 7. You had hypothesized this was the George who attended Betsy's funeral.
Jane, you are so right! I knew the name Wenos sounded familiar, but had forgotten about pursuing this angle before.
I contacted a distant LDS relative last night hoping she might have traced Betsy's line into Norway, but she has not. Ordering death certificates for more of the children might be the next order of business.
Thank you for taking an interest. |
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NancyB
Medium member
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Posted - 31/01/2014 : 22:59:57
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Originally posted by NancyB
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Originally posted by JaneC
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Originally posted by NancyB
As a side note, next to them on the 1925 Iowa census is George L. Johnson, age 28, who lists his father as John Johnson, born in Norway and age 75 on last birthday. His mother is Martha Wenos, age 73 last birthday, also born in Norway. Don't think there is a connection because John would have been born around 1850, but neighbors who are Johnsons get my attention.
Hi Nancy - nice to see you again. This family was researched; see page 7. You had hypothesized this was the George who attended Betsy's funeral.
Jane, you are so right! I knew the name Wenos sounded familiar, but had forgotten about pursuing this angle before. I
Another thought going through my mind is that Betsy could be a cousin to Johan Bendik Johnson. (George L would have been attending the funeral of his father's cousin.) I will need to try to map the entire family to see if this could be. A similar situation happened on the Swedish side of my family. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 13/07/2015 : 16:51:19
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I'm not sure I remember the exact reference to Alexander Anderson the son of Betsy who was living in North Dakota at one time. Here is a possible:
Alex Anderson Head M 34 Iowa (pa b Sweden, ma b Norway)
Ettie Anderson Wife F 35 South Dakota
Ruben Anderson Son M 9 Montana
Russell Anderson Son M 8 Montana
Beatrice Anderson Daughter F 5 Montana
Carlyle Anderson Son M 4 North Dakota
Arnold Anderson Son M 1 North Dakota
District: 168 , Sheet Number and Letter: 4A , Household ID: 52 , Line Number: 8 , Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) , Affiliate Publication Number: T625 , GS Film number: 1821336 , Digital Folder Number: 004383783 , Image Number: 00119"United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MC8H-TLD : accessed 13 July 2015), Alex Anderson, Bergen, McHenry, North Dakota, United States; citing sheet 4A, family 52, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,821,336.
He may be the same Alex Anderson who married an Ettie Stewart in McHenry county in 1908.
The family in 1910 in Montana:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLC8-9GT
The family in 1930 in Virginia, Minnesota:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3DK-F3W
The son Carlyle died in Calfornia from the rootsweb California Death index:
ANDERSON CARLYLE JULIAN 01/18/1916 STEWART (mother's maiden name) M NORTH DAKOTA ALAMEDA(01) 11/05/1990
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 05/11/2016 : 12:05:48
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This seems to be the birth of this Brita in May 1851
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Confirmation record shows a birth place of Hopperstad (Brita Johannesdatter confirmed 08 April 1866, Vik, Sogn og Fjordane)
1865 CENSUS on Hopperstad:
Johannes Olsen 71 Vigs Prgj. Husf e Gaardb Selveier
Endre Johannessen 27 Vigs Prgj. hans Søn ug hjelper Fad som Tjener
Gjøri Johannesdatter 26 Vigs Prgj. hans Datter ug hjelper Fad som Tjener
Martha Johannesdatter 23 Vigs Prgj. hans Datter ug hjelper Fad som Tjener
Britha Johannesdatter 15 Vigs Prgj. hans Datter ug hjelper Fad som Tjener
Lussi Thorsdatter 70 Vigs Prgj. Logerende ug Daglønnerske
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06.05.1866 EMIGRATION
departing Bergen for Quebec
on the Aurora
Gjøri Johannesdtr Hopperstad age 25
Marthe Johannesdtr Hopperstad age 23
Brithe Johannesdtr Hopperstad age 14, birthplace Viig
also next on list is Johannes Johnsen age 19
Ships' lists for Bergen-Quebec (Canada) 1865-1873
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Results when searching the Emigration Database on 'Hopperstad"
- one emigrant is headed to Northwood, Iowa (much later than Brita)
- two live in Iowa
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/11/2016 : 12:36:44
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I think I found her in Census-1900. Look at this one in Wadena, Minnesota.
Born MARCH 1850, immigrated 1870.
Not everything fits dough... could Oliver be Clarence ? And birthplace for the sons are listed as MN, and father born in Norway.
But widowed, 8 children, 7 living...
Household
Bertha Anderson Head F 50 Norway
Oliver Anderson Son M 15 Minnesota. (Born Jul 1885)
Alexander Anderson Son M 13 Minnesota. (Born May 1887) |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2016 : 12:48:28
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 05/11/2016 : 12:52:19
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| Hmmmm and the birth date for this Betsy supposedly should be 28 February 1850. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/11/2016 : 13:05:02
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Originally posted by JaneC
Hmmmm and the birth date for this Betsy supposedly should be 28 February 1850.
The d.o.b. is questionable, since it's calculated from her obit.
If it's Betsy above in Wadena, her d.o.b. could be 01 Mar 1850?
Betsy would probably be Brithe in Norway. Bergen is in Hordaland.
Possibilities for Betsy Johnson in Hordaland:
Britha Johannesdatter 1849 Fane
Britte Johannesdatter 1851 Finaas
Brithe Johannesdatter 1849 Fitje
Britha Johannesdatter 1851 Fjelds
Britha Johnsdatter 1850 Hammer
Britha Johannesdatter 1851 Haus
Britta Johnsdatter 1850 Haus
Britha Johannesdatter 1850 Haus
Britha Johnsdatter 1851 Haus
Britha Johannesdatter 1849 Haus
Britha Johannesdatter 1850 Hosanger
Britha Johnsdatter 1850 Hosanger
Britha Johnsdatter 1851 Kinservig
Brita Johannesdatter 1851 Kinservig
Britha Johannesdatter 1851 Lindaas
Brithe Johannesdatter 1849 Manger
Brithe Johannesdatter 1851 Manger
Britha Johnsdatter 1851 Os
Brithe Johannesen 1849 Strandebarm
Brithe Johannesdatter 1851 Sunds
Brithe Johannesdatter 1851 Sunds
Brithe Johannesdatter 1849 Sunds
Brita Johannesdatter 1851 Vikør
Brita Johannesdatter 1850 Vikør
Brithe Johannesdatter 1849 Voss
Britha Johnsdatter 1849 Voss
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 05/11/2016 : 15:43:07
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Here is some information on a Brita Hoopperstad..
Brita Hopperstad
in the Iowa, Marriage Records, 1880-1937
Name: Brita Hopperstad
Gender: Female
Spouse: Nels Brenno
Child: John Gilbert Brenno
Britha Johannesdtr Brenno
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Britha Johannesdtr Brenno
Birth Date: 1851
Death Date: 1933
Cemetery: Lincoln Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Ridgeway, Winneshiek County, Iowa, USA
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Nels O Brenno
Children: Caroline Sanderson
John Gilbert Brenno
Father is
Johannes Olson Hopperstad
1795–1869
BIRTH 10 JAN 1795 • Vik, Sogn og Fjordane, Norway
DEATH 23 SEP 1869 • Vik, Sogn og Fjordane, Norway
Mother is
Barbro Lassedtr Bøe
1805–1853
BIRTH 23 JUN 1805 • Vik, Sogn og Fjordane, Norway
DEATH 29 NOV 1853 • Vik, Sogn og Fjordane, Norwa |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/11/2016 : 16:52:00
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Here is an interesting emigration on 11 May 1868. Ship Frigate Bird leaving BERGEN, headed for Quebec:
John Ragnildsen Øvre 50 m residence Vig John Brynildsen
Gjerturd !! Øvre* 46 f wife residence Vig* Gjertrud Villumsdatter
Britha Johnsdatter* Øvre* 18 f daughter* residence Vig*
Anna Johnsdatter* Øvre* 5 f daughter* residence Vig* born 08 Feb 1863, Vik S&F.
Martha Johnsdatter* Øvre* 2 f daughter* residence Vig* born 13 Oct 1865, Vik, S&F. twin
Gjertrud Johnsdatter* Øvre* 2 f daughter* residence Vig* born 13 Oct 1865, Vik, S&F. twin
Britha Colbensdattter Øvre* 64 f residence Vig*
John Brynildsen and Giaertrud Villumsdr married on 24 Jun 1848, Voss, Hordaland.
Census-1865
Confirmation #34, 02 Apr 1865. Birthe is 15¼, ie born beginning of 1850...
When and where is this Brithe Johnsdatter born? Voss, Hordaland or Vik, Sogn & Fjordane?
The parents are originally from Voss, but has at some point (between 1848 - 1863) relocated to Vik in Sogn.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 05/11/2016 : 17:04:18
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That Brita (with John Brynjelson and Gertrude) was born in Vik but in March 184922 Nov 1849 pg 5 of this topic. She was covered to that extent earlier in the topic.
Her older brother Bryngel left about a year before the rest of the family.
It would be nice to find them all in US. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 05/11/2016 17:18:12 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/11/2016 : 17:19:13
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Originally posted by jkmarler
That Brita (with John Brynjelson and Gertrude) was born in Vik but in March 1849. She was covered to that extent earlier in the topic.
Her older brother Bryngel left about a year before the rest of the family.
It would be nice to find them all in US.
Actually 22 Nov 1849 ... *sigh* |
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