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allaur
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USA
16 Posts

Posted - 28/10/2003 :  01:55:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

My great-uncle has been missing since 1935. He was a
Norwegian sailor - born 1904 - mother was Petra Petterson.

He was last seen when visiting his brother - John Einar
Forsell - family in Keystone PA. in 1935.

Can someone help me in learning where to start looking -
he was a norwegian mariner.

ginny

Borge
Veteran Moderator

Norway
1297 Posts

Posted - 28/10/2003 :  19:33:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Forsell is not a typical Norwegian name, I would think this family originated from Sweden. What kind of documentation do you currently have on him?
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allaur
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USA
16 Posts

Posted - 28/10/2003 :  20:32:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Robert Mauritz Fors(h)ell's mother was Norwegian and his father was Swedish. His father's
family seem to have been born etc. in Skaraborg and were married in Stockholm.
My Forsell family comes from a long line of military officers.- including Carl Gustaf af Forsell
born 1783 and Jacob Forsell born 1783. The famous opera singer John Forsell is a direct
descendent of Jacob Forsell - who is my 4th generation grandfather. We kind of lost knowledge
of the family tree with Carl Bolivar Jacob Washington Forsell. I have had difficulty finding out
the name of his son, who would be the father of Robert Mauritz Forsell. Robert;s brother John
Einar Forsell was my grandfather - he died in 1931 after becoming a citizen in 1928. Robert
was last seen at my grandmothers home in Keystone PA. Even his mother in Norway did not
hear from him after 1935.

Robert and his brother John Einar lived in Oslo and Porsgund after their mother and father
were divorced and she moved back to Norway. John Einar became a ship crew member
and I believe Robert was in the Norwegian Merchant Marines.


ginny
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
1100 Posts

Posted - 28/10/2003 :  20:41:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Siri Holm Lawson has an excellent website - http://www.warsailors.com/ - dedicated to her Father who was a Norwegian Merchant Marine in World War II. There is a lot of information, links, guestbook, forum, etc. that may help you.
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Borge
Veteran Moderator

Norway
1297 Posts

Posted - 28/10/2003 :  21:20:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If he was a Norwegian sailor there will be information about him in the registers of seamen. You need to know what part of Norway he lived, as the registers are kept with the Statsarkiv for the respective regions. You can read some more in my article about the Maritime Inscription - Registers of Seamen. A problem might be the material containing information about him could still closed.
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allaur
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USA
16 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2003 :  20:22:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for the great information. I desparately need help trying to locate birth, marriage, and death
records for my great grandmother - Petra Oline Marie Pettersen - born March 24 1877 in Hadsel Norway.
Her married name was Petra Oline Marie Forshell. I don't know her husband's name - just that he was
Swedish. (maybe Skaraborg area). She died in Skien January 21 1946. Her address was Nygaten 6, Skien. I have having difficulty using the archival information. I believe there is information about her
in the Skien and Oslo Folkereister. The name then was spelled FORSHELL.Thank you.

ginny
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Borge
Veteran Moderator

Norway
1297 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2003 :  21:38:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If they lived in Skien you might want to try the Skien Genealogical Page, there are some very nice and helpful people there.

Børge Solem
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allaur
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USA
16 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2003 :  22:53:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Borge - thank you -
I found my grandmother and her son's graveyard in Skien. But, I am confused why, if she remarried
after divorcing a Forsell, is she buried as a Forsell and not with her second husbands name?
Is this customary?

ginny
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allaur
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USA
16 Posts

Posted - 30/10/2003 :  13:35:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
can you help me with finding Petra Petterson born 1877 in
hadsel norway in the norway archives. I can't find info about
hadsel - what county or municipality it is in. thanks

ginny
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
1100 Posts

Posted - 30/10/2003 :  19:26:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hadsel is in Nordland County. An easy way to look for this type of information is to search in Google.com.
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
868 Posts

Posted - 31/10/2003 :  06:57:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it possible that Petra moved to Sweden before the 1900 census? I didn't find anyone matching in the census.
Carla
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allaur
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USA
16 Posts

Posted - 31/10/2003 :  16:45:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Petra may have moved to Sweden when she married the Swedish Forsell. My grandfather Einar was
born in Sweden in 1899. Petra lived in Sweden until 1910 when she moved to Porsgunn after her
divorce. Our family thinks her husbands name was Fabian Forsell - but I cannot find him in any
Family Search records.We have no real informaton about Fabian Forsell - only that he probably
lived in the Skaraborg - Stockholm area.
Can you direct me where to request Petra's birth record? Also I suspect that the divorce records
are in Porsgunn or Oslo. Thanks

ginny
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allaur
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USA
16 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2003 :  23:49:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

can you tell me how to request a copy of a birth certificate. I think I found my ggrandmother Petra
in Farsund municipality - Vest Agder.Thanks.

ginny
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
868 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2003 :  06:40:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Norway's birth records are recorded in the parish register. The LDS has microfilms of the actual registers. They also have some on line records and I did find one for the Petra you found. Click Here
It doesn't look like she is the one you are looking for.
Carla
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allaur
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USA
16 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2003 :  01:15:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Carla - she must left Norway for Sweden before the 1900 census. How do I go about
getting her birth record from Hadsel, Norway? Do you think she could be Petra Pedersdatter
located on LDS site?


ginny
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allaur
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USA
16 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2003 :  00:42:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hello - can anyone help me find the ships docked in new york city 1935-36. My ggranduncle
was waiting for his ship to be repaired and was staying with the Hansen family in new york
city. it was then after that he was missing. thanks

ginny
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