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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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 Posted - 11/12/2003 : 21:47:51
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Hi Bob,
I'm glad if you found some new stuff... 
I did a search for the Bie ytre farm as well at the library, but unfortunately ; there is no farmbook written for the Bie area in the centre of Grimstad.
There is a set of books from about 1950 describing norwegian settlements, and I found 6 farms, houses or other buildings named Bie ytre in or around Grimstad.
There was pictures of the houses, but I did not recognize any of them. I'm not sure, but I don't think the farm exist today. There is one farm which is called just Bie, which I pass every day when I go to work...
Ytre means "outwardly", I assume the farm then would have been closer to the sea.
Fyi; its 20km (30 miles) between the Hurv farm in Froland, and the Bie farm in Grimstad.
Widower Kiddel Andersen lives on the Hurv farm in 1801 together with his mother widow Birte Kiddelsdatter.
Kiddel does not have custody of his kids, Maren and Åsulf. This must be Maren: click here
Is says that Maren is "the daughter of the wifes sister", so Aase Osulsdatter must be the sister of Berthe Åselsdatter (dead 1799).
This must be Åsulf
It says that he is "her daughter-son", so widow Marte Olsdatter (55) must be Berthe Åselsdatter's mother.
Osul and Åsel are just different spellings of the same name.
This means that the kids were raised by Kiddel's sister-in-law and mother-in-law.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 11/12/2003 22:18:27 |
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Hestehaven
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 31/12/2003 : 06:15:23
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Hello Bob,
I was interested in your GGF Carl Andersen because my father Christian Samuelsen was born in Fjaere and settled in Elizabeth, NJ, living on Atlantic Street from 1913 to 1930, along with several of his aunts and uncles. According to the 1920 and 1930 census, a Carl Andersen (Anderson in the 1930 census) lived at 13 Atlantic Street. They lived on the same block so I suppose they might have known each other, but there is no one to ask now. If I can be of any help on this end, let me know.
Arnold
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randerson63
Starting member
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Posted - 02/03/2004 : 18:32:40
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Hello Arnold,
I would be interested in learning more about your father Christian. I am still to figure out who my Great Grandmother was. Word has it that her name was Johanna or Hanna, and she died in child birth on Atlantic street.
I did go by the house a few months ago. It was neat to see the home my GGF built after he arrived here in the states.
Would like to hear from you.
bob
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Hestehaven
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2004 : 04:35:46
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Hi Bob,
From the 1900 census for Elizabeth, District 102, Page 18:
13 Atlantic Street
Carl Andersen, head, born Jun 1856, Norway, ship carpenter
Johanna, wife, born Apr 1864, Norway, father born in Denmark, mother in Norway
Clarence, son, Mar 1894, NJ
Also living at this address are three boarders from Norway
If Johanna was buried in Evergreen Cemetery, as many Norwegians were, the cemetery should be able to give you the date of burial. Then you should be able to obtain a copy of the death certificate at City Hall and look up the death notice, if there was one, in the microfilm files of the Elizabeth Journal at the Elizabeth Public Library.
By the way, there is a another Carl Anderson and wife buried next to my parents at Evergreen. Your family?
Arnold
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randerson63
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Posted - 03/03/2004 : 18:46:13
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Arnold,
Are you living in the NJ area?
I know that Carl Andersen, my GGF passed away in 1930. Is there a headstone or anything that gives a date? |
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Hestehaven
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Posted - 04/03/2004 : 18:59:38
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Bob,
This Carl Anderson (-son ending) died in the1970s or 80s. I will make a note of it the dates next time I visit the cemetery, which many not be for a few weeks. If the cemetery office is open whenI am there, I will see if they have Carl and Johanna Andersen in their alphabetical index. I am living in Elizabeth.
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randerson63
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Posted - 04/03/2004 : 23:30:47
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Arnold,
I did have an Uncle Carl Anderson (Grandson of Carl from Norway) (spelling was "son"), however he is burried in Kennilworth with my Grandfather Clarence Anderson (born 1894 as you described above)....So I do not believe there is a match..
But thank you for checking into it. |
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