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Debra
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 Posted - 15/12/2003 : 22:44:01
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Oh, and Jan, thanks so much for all the explanations, those really helped. I need to start doing more of the Norwegian/English looking myself I guess. I just get so frustrated when I look at those forms and I see words I know I want to know about but don't know enough! Anyway, that really was interesting finding out more about him-not blood related but very interesting. Now if only I could find that elusive Sarah and Kristine! I need to get what I have together and try to put some things together better and then start begging for more help lol. Sarah is about impossible to find here in the US as I just dont' know enough about her. All I really know is her birthday, maybe when she emigrated and then what relatives have told me--that she may have lived in Kellier, MN or by the Canadain border and she 'may' have been 'Mrs. Thompson'!!! (told to me by a relative).
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Debra
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 16/12/2003 : 04:51:39
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Jan, the age is close and Selbu is right too. I thought he came over with a wife and child but I am not so sure about that now. What I got from the Halstad book tells me that he had a wife (first Anna) and a daughter when he settled in Halstad in 1871 but the family doesn't remember anything about that first daughter AND his first son John was born in 1868 which was before he settled in Halstad and he was never mentioned in that book!! Now I am not so sure I believe anything about what it said, he said he had a daughter Indger and she later married Peter Tonder and Kjell (from Norway) pointed out to me that it couldn't be-way off in ages (she was too old) and now I find these other things that don't quite add up to that first information I got. Anyway, what you found certainly could be him but I would have thought he was traveling with a wife and maybe a child--but if that wasn't his daughter then maybe he wasn't married either--but on the census later it says his wife was born in Norway too (the other Anna that wasn't our family). They sure had worse messes back then than we even do now!! I sure wish I could get his marriages straightened out. I only know the last one--when he was married and when he and she died--but the rest before her is quite vague. I did print these out though just in case it is him for sure. I also need to follow the ages on everyone to see where they fit and see the story better but seems everyday I am going to do that, something else happens and I don't do it.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/12/2003 : 08:46:38
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Well, from what I remember from previous postings, the 1900-census shows that he has been in the country for 35 years, ie. he immigrated around 1865.
He settled in Halstad in 1871, so he must have lived 5-6 years somewhere else.
At his age (22), it was very common to travel alone, to seek the new and promised life "over there".
My guess is that he met his wife in the first years after arriving in the US.... 
It could very well be a girl he knew from his hometown though...
NB: There is a problem about him being on both the 1865-census, and on the emigration list..., I belive the census was made very late in 1865, months after the Peruvian trip...
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/12/2003 : 19:48:07
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Hi Deb, This is a possibility for Sigrid/Sarah emigrating in 1891. She is from Strinden but since Anne and Marit also lived there when they emigrated it is possible. She is going to Moorhead MN
There is a Kelliher Minnesota in Beltrami county, could that be Kellier? Here is the Beltrami Genweb site Click Here
Searching the Beltrami census for any Sarah/Sigrid that fits her age and emigration year would probably be your 1st step in trying to find her
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Debra
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 16/12/2003 : 21:51:47
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Carla, Kjell (from Norway) had brought that to my attention too about that Sigrid in 1891. I have it printed out just hoping to prove it is her. I really think it is her but have no way of proving it as the other sisters came using other names although I guess Anna used that name in emigrating. Anyway, I really think that is her. That Kelliher, MN sounds good. I went to that site but don't have time to get in to it enough right now but saved it and need to study it more tonight (my husband teaches on Thursday nights so I have more time then). It is just so hard to know what to look for when I don't even know her married name for sure--just that it 'may' be Thompson as Anna's granddaughter remembers visiting a 'Mrs Thompson'--who could have been anyone!! That is all I have to go on though.
It is really interesting learning more about Severin's family though, I am looking up the mother's name and trying to follow some of them--I am just not good at it like all of you are. I am amazed at reading the emails from the Sweden and Norway list at how people find things!! I feel so limited in what I do but I am sort of stuck doing things on the Internet too and depending on others because now that it is snowing and icy here I go out very little by myself. This diabetes has not been nice to me the last couple of years. I know I shouldn't say anything much personal on here but just to let you know how much I appreciate all of your help, I like to let you know what is going on. I go to Mayo clinic the week after Christmas to get tested for a kidney/pancreas transplant as my kidneys have about had it and that is my only hope right now but I doubt I will pass it because of my other health issues--oh well--gotta try.
This genealogy is not only exciting and loads of fun and I feel like I almost know these people--but it is very good for me too as it is something I can work on for me and my family and they are thrilled someone is finding this stuff out that we never knew. So thanks everyone for helping.
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Debra
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 17/12/2003 : 15:26:38
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I was looking through all the Kelliher, MN stuff last night and thinking about how far we have come with this family. I knew nothing but my grandmother and grandfather's names when I started and now I know everyone in both families for a ways back. I know quite a bit about most of them, just have to 'prove' some of it. I can only think of two people that are 'lost' and am gaining on them. I have some lost people on the Swedish side too but I know all about them-just can't find them here in the US even though I know their names and their children's names AND where they lived their lives and even what their children did for a living--too common of names and I don't know dates-ugh--still working on it though--anyway--Sarah is the one on the Norwegian side that I am really working on finding now. Actually I need to really find Mary and Sarah but know quite a bit more about Mary than Sarah and I have sent for Martha's death certificate which should tell me for sure if she is the 'right' Martha (Mary's daughter) and maybe some other information.
I need to call Anna's granddaughter again as it seems everytime I talk with her I get a little more information. Last time she told me Sarah could me the 'Mrs Thompson'. She is also the one that told me Sarah was from Kellier MN which sure could be Kelliher I would think. It is about in the right area too. Today I am either going to call there or email them to ask about their 'history book' and while talking to them ask some questions--I should be able to tell right away whether I dare ask much or not--their population is a whole 300+! I am sure Sarah was just another 'person' in the community and not known but you never know until you ask if someone knew of her. According to Mom she was in her 80s when she died so someone may know of her or her family? I came from a small town and we knew everyone-besides I am getting desperate to find her lol.
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Debra
Junior member
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Posted - 21/12/2003 : 15:08:06
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I got the death certificate back for Martha Homelvig and it isn't Marit's daughter so now I am back to square one--but now am more comfortable looking for the Olsen name--now that I don't know for sure what name they used in the US. Marit and Severin and family had destination as Halstad which made sense as that is where Anna was going and she was going to be with Ole Halstad as they got married a year later. Where Marit (Mary) and Severin went after they got there I don't know and hope to find out. I have tried the census for Halstad where I can find them after they got there but so far nothing. I have also checked all the Halstad information as far as marriages etc for the children and have found nothing so far but was looking more for the Homelvig or that other long name--not much for Olsen as it was so common. Thanks for any help offered--these relatives when they got to America just sort of vanished!
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cafleharty
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 02/02/2005 : 08:13:50
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| Debra: I am so excited about these entries of yours and can't wait to talk to you! I can fill in the pieces of Martha's life. She lived a long life--84 years! Please contact me. |
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cafleharty
Starting member
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Posted - 02/02/2005 : 08:41:13
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| Deb: My great grandmother is Marit and my grandmother is Martha. I would love to talk to you. Please contact me. I never dreamed I'd find a site like this. Wow! I can give you much information and share some pictures! Carol |
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Debra
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 02/02/2005 : 17:40:29
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Carol, and others on this site--This is so neat. I have found most of my family with the help of oodles of people but could never find my Grandmother's sisters Mary and Sarah after they got to America. I could find Marit and Severin coming to America with Martha and Johan but that was where it ended--and now this--wow--this is so exciting as I had to stop researching them as I had no last names to go on with Sarah as I knew she married and I couldn't find Marit and Severin with their last name. I am now emailing Carol and hope to find out so much more and maybe offer her some information on the extended family. This site is great, thanks so much. This is the site that got me started--and by the way--I have been in contact with two cousins from Norway, gotten pictures of the place Grandmother was born (only rocks left unfortunately) and even got a picture of her brother who stayed in Norway. I t has been very exciting. I also went and did a couple of family talks this past summer with the Halstad family--I found out all about Ole and his three wives and found their graves etc--it was very exciting. I have come a long ways since starting out on this site not knowing even the last names of my grandparents--thanks to all of you--and a bunch of other very helpful people.
Carol, I hope we have lots of information to share, thanks for emailing me.
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Martha Hommelvikstrų and family
