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jagphd
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USA
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Posted - 26/05/2004 :  21:50:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The more I dig in to the ship information, the more questions I have. Here is what I know thus far:

May 8, 1874--My GGP sailed on the S/S Oder out of Oslo. They are listed in the emigration protocols for this date and ship.

In looking at the norwayheritage.com website it says that this ship was a feeder ship on the Wilson Line that sailed the Oslo to Hull, England route.

May 30, 1874--My GGP are on the manifest of the S/S Trinacria arriving in New York. The manifest says the ship sailed out of "Glasgow and Queenstown."

Again, looking at norwayheritage.com--the authorizations and routes for the Anchor Line in 1874, and the Trinacria is listed here and part of the Anchor fleet, says "Steamships to Leith, from Leith by train to Glasgow, from there by steamship to New York and by train inland in America." (I found Leith is a port near Edinburgh, Scotland.)

Now my questions--how did my GGP get from Hull to Leith? The information on the authorizations and routes states "steamships to Leith" I know there were trains from Hull to Liverpool but it would appear that my GGP had to get to Glasgow somehow and taking a train to Liverpool wouldn't get them any closer. Would there have been yet another "feeder" ship from Hull to Leith? a train?? I do not see anything about the S/S Oder going to Glasgow, Leith, etc.

If the Oder arrived in Hull on or about the 11th of May and the Trinacria got to NY on the 30th of May and it appears that the typical ocean crossing took the Trinacria about 2 weeks, that would leave between 4-5 days for travel in England/Scotland.

Any insights would be greatly appreciated. (I know this may seem like a minor detail but I am really interested in understanding what they went thru to get here. I'm sure I'll never know all the details but am willing to try to piece together as much as I can...and the pieces I have right now are not fitting together.)

Thanks in advance for any information--
Jane G.
jagphd@msn.com

Borge
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Norway
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Posted - 26/05/2004 :  23:40:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Answer from Nick Evans (by way of Borge):

WOULD HAVE SAILED FROM OSLO (ASSUME ON A FRIDAY) ARRIVED HULL SUNDAY NIGHT / MONDAY MORNING. THEN GOT TRAIN FROM HULL TO GLASGOW [PROBABLY TRAIN HULL TO BERWICK. BERWICK TO GLASGOW]. THEN THEY WOULD HAVE SAILED ON THE SS TRINACRIA. IT WOULD HAVE SAILED FROM GLASGOW AND CALLED INTO QUEENSTOWN FOR ADDITIONAL PASSENGERS (IRISH ONES) BEFORE EVENTUALLY ARRIVING IN THE US.

IGNORE THE ADVERTISEMENTS - NOT ALL PEOPLE SAILED THE EASIEST ROUTE

IF YOU HAVE AN ARRIVAL RECORD FOR NY - THEN LOOK IN THE GLASGOW NEWSPAPERS FOR WHEN THE VESSEL SET SAIL. THEY WOULD HAVE STAYED IN GLASGOW IN A LODGING HOUSE UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LINE.
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jagphd
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USA
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Posted - 26/05/2004 :  23:59:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a copy of the original manifest of the Trinacria that says the ship arrived in NY on May 30, 1874. Would the Glasgow papers be online? I have not seen this kind of thing in my online searching...but then again I haven't looked for anything like this either.

I've read that the train trip from Hull to Liverpool took 7 hours. The distance from Hull to Glasgow is considerably longer so I'm asuming a train trip must have taken 12 or more hours???

Thanks again for your time and information. I really appreciate both and your help in putting some of the pieces I have found together...coherently!

--Jane
jagphd@msn.com
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