1: Was Peder Christian on the census in 1865 in Norway?
2: Current decendants of Peter Andreas Palmstrom married to Elisabeth Marie Larsdatter.
Issues. * Johan Carl 21-3-1829 Born Arendal and moved to Kragero April 1854 Gurine laurette 22-4-1831 Peter Martin 21-8-1833 Marie Catherine 21-12-1835 Georg Nicolai 18-9-1841 married Hansine Andrea Aslaken 4-4-1871 Elise matilde 5-9-1844 married Ole Laurits Odegard 23-2-1866 Georgine Nicoline / Nicoline Georgine 10-2-1847 married Iver Olsen 23-8-1866
3: Any record of Johan Carl? a: Leaving Kragero Norway after 1854 b: On later census (1865) c: Marrying d: Death 4: We know Charles Peterson married in Troy New York in 1855 then came Australia. he changed his name before he arrived in Australia.
PS: Where would the best place be to find the marriage certificate from Troy New York 1855???
For Marraige Certificates you need to apply to the County Records office in New York. If you do a google serach it should give you the information you require to apply for the certificate. You might also like to do a google search for the records you are searching for in Kragero. You could also search the Ellis Island website to find the arrival in New York of your Charles.
The Ellis Island website has lists for passengers arriving at the Port of New York from 1892 to 1924. Since Charles was in New York in 1855 he would not be in this database.
New York state conducted a state census in 1855. Troy is located in Rensselaer County and the LDS library catalog indicates that they have that census copied to three reels of microfilm for that county.
There are at least 139 different males named given and middle name = Peder Christain (? surname) or the spelling variant Peder Kristian (? surname) in the 1865 Norwegian census. One male named Peder Christian (with Christian as the surname). At least 295 males named Peder Christiansen or Kristiansen. http://www.rhd.uit.no/indexeng.html
You'd need more information to be able to narrow down the possibilities.
Johan Carl Palmstrøm died 7. December 1855 (Arendal), "carpenter apprentice", 26 1/2 years old.
No 14: Aust-Agder county, Arendal in Arendal, Parish register (official) no. A 6 (1855-1868), Deceased and buried 1855, Page 323, Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060208010323
No 15: Aust-Agder county, Arendal in Arendal, Parish register (copy) no. B 2 (1838-1860), Deceased and buried 1856, Page 261, Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070329650346
Thank you all so much for all of your help you have given me. I’m sorry that I wasted your time, but my family were told by a researcher 20 years ago that Johan Carl Palmstrom was most likely the same man as Charles Peterson. Now, thx to some great researchers, I have been told that JCP died in Dec 1855 in Arendal, Norway, so he wasn’t my Charles Peterson. Thx again to everyone for your help and patience. Fetchitnow - Mark P
Not a waste of time. The searches that are tough and difficult are for me the most interesting.
Maybe revisiting the American life of Charles Peterson and wife Ellen Cavanagh might turn up some clues.
Death of Ellen Peterson in Australia
Ellen Peterson in the Australia Cemetery Index, 1808-2007 Name: Ellen Peterson Death Age: 63 Birth Date: abt 1840 Death Date: 23 Aug 1903 Cemetery: Rupanyup Cemetery Location: Rupanyup, Victoria Remarks: additional information available from AIGS
Ellen Peterson in the Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985 Name: Ellen Peterson Birth Year: abt 1840 Age: 63 Death Place: Rupanyup, Victoria Father's name: Cavanagh Mother's name: Mary Registration Year: 1903 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 11321
If the birth year is at all accurate she would have been only 15 when married and in the 1855 New York Census.
We did find an Ellen Cavanagh born about 1838 living in Rensselaer, New York, in the 1855 New York Census. However I think she is still living there in 1860 so not a candidate.In the 1855 Census I have left off the long list of borders. The earlier post on this census covers the list. See page three.
Ellen Cavanaugh in the New York, State Census, 1855 Name: Ellen Cavanaugh Birth Year: abt 1838 Age: 17 Relation to Head: Servant Residence: Troy City, Ward 3, Rensselaer, New York, USA Household number: 216 Line Number: 9 Sheet Number: 28
Ellen Cavanaugh in the 1860 United States Federal Census Name: Ellen Cavanaugh Age: 23 Birth Year: abt 1837 Gender: Female Birth Place: Ireland Home in 1860: Troy Ward 2, Rensselaer, New York Post Office: Troy Dwelling Number: 769 Family Number: 1168 Cannot Read, Write: Y
Then a Charles Peterson Born 1830, in 1852 Census in California.
My Charles Peterson would have to be back in Troy, Rensselaer in August 1855 for his wedding and maybe 6 months to 1 or 2 years, before wedding to meet his wife, Ellen Cavanagh, thx MarkPeter
Thank you all so much for all of your help you have given me. I’m sorry that I wasted your time, but my family were told by a researcher 20 years ago that Johan Carl Palmstrom was most likely the same man as Charles Peterson. Now, thx to some great researchers, I have been told that JCP died in Dec 1855 in Arendal, Norway, so he wasn’t my Charles Peterson. Thx again to everyone for your help and patience. Fetchitnow - Mark P
Family history research is seldom perfect but always in the state of being perfected.
Can anyone help me find out if Jahn Petter Carlson and Ane Maria ???? ( born abt 1805-1820 ) had any children born in about 1828-1834 in either Arendal, Norway or maybe Skaraborg, Sweden? Thx MarkPeter
CASTLE GARDEN, NEW YORK - Castle Garden served as a reception hall and temporary home of nine million immigrants from it was opened on Aug 1, 1855 to it was closed down on April 18, 1890. From then on the Immigration Processing Centers for New York was at the Barge office and Ellis Island. This story about Castle Garden was printed in The Illustrated American, March 1, 1890.
Johan Carl Palmstrom family tree search
Posted - 09/11/2004 : 08:06:52
