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jmonson
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Posted - 30/03/2005 :  00:29:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
An 11 year old granddaughter is researching an ancestor who emigrated at age 10 for a school project. We would like to find the actual ship if possible.
The year was 1852, probable departure port was Drammen or Kristiana.
Family: Torsten Rolvsen Sogn, age 37, from Jevnaker
Kari Larsdatter Igelsrud (or Sogn), age 44
Anne Marie Torstensdatter Sogn, age 10
Randi Torine Torstensdatter Sogn, age 9
Mari Torstensdatter Sogn, age 6
Also, Was the following person on the same ship, although he was not travelling with the Sogn's?
Ole Gulbrandsen Roisum, age 25, Gran
he was later husband of Anne, then Randi

The family left Jevanker after Kari's daughter from her first marriage was married on 5 May 1852. They were on a sailing ship, required 8 weeks to cross. Probably landed in New York as they "travelled on a canal to Lake Erie." At least 60 years after this, the youngest daughter of Randi and Ole wrote down what she remembered being told, so considerable important detail is missing.

The Bark "Drafna" appears to fit the few known facts listed above.

Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 30/03/2005 :  02:26:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, you had good information. Here there are:

Norwegian Bark Richard Cobden
left Christiania on May 30, arrived New York Harbor on June 30, 1852

#111 - Torsten Sogn, 37, landsman
Kari Larsdatter, 44
Oline Olsdatter, 23, pige
Anne Torstensdatter, 10
Randi Torstensdatter, 9
Mari Torstensdatter, 7

Down the list at #120 is -
Ole Gulbrandsen, 21 years, 6 months, unmarried

No immigration processing until 1855, just a health inspection aboard ship and turn in a custom declarations and they were on their way.

They would have traveled up the Hudson River to Albany and through the Erie Canal (six days) to Buffalo on Lake Erie to catch a Great Lakes steamer.

There is some information on this site about the Richard Cobden and barks. You can rent the passenger list microfilm at a local Family History Center.
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jmonson
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Posted - 31/03/2005 :  17:38:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you!

I had not considered the Richard Cobden as the dates for for its 1852 journey were listed on this site as May 3 departure and June 29 arrival. Since I have no confirmation of them being at the farm for the wedding, they may have left earlier.

Ole was definitely older. However, he may have had reasons for trying to somewhat disguise his departure.

Both the family and Ole had been released from their parishes in mid-April.

I just noticed, are you sure about May 30 departure? If that is correct, they had a 4 week crossing! May 3 fits better.

Again, thank you
John Monson
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Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 31/03/2005 :  19:19:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are right, it is May 3 - see info on this site. Glad to help.
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