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Borge
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Norway
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Posted - 02/09/2005 :  09:51:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He was listed as Ivers. in the emigration records at Digitalarkivet, and I find him as Jon Ivarson in the 1900 census.

Børge Solem

Edited by - Borge on 02/09/2005 09:55:06
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carraj
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USA
107 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2012 :  16:45:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have one member of this family, the oldest son, Johan August, that we are still searching for an immigration record of, and actually still have not been unable to identify in records with certainty after his immigration to the US. We do have a family photo with him in it, taken around 1897-1900 in Minnesota with his brothers, sisters and mother, so we know that he did emigrate, but are unable to find the record in the Norway Church records or the Ships records. Any suggestions or pointers that anyone might be able to offer would be much appreciated.
Thank you, Carra Johnson Callies

1-Peder JOHNSON (abt 1828-1885)
+Olina (Oline) PEDERSDATTER (Dec 15, 1833-Jan 8, 1912)
. . . . . . . . . . 2-Methe Maria PEDERSDATTER (1856-)
. . . . . . . . . . +Ole SVE (1855-)
. . . . . . . . . . 2-Julie Paulina PEDERSDATTER (abt 1858-)
. . . . . . . . . . +Paul A KRAGNES (1855-Jan 16, 1927)
. . . . . . . . . . 2-Johan August PEDERSON (abt 1859-)
. . . . . . . . . . 2-Olina Margrethe (Lena) PEDERSDATTER (1862-)
. . . . . . . . . . +Anders STUBSVE (1858-)
. . . . . . . . . . 2-Karen Martha PEDERSDATTER (Sep 1864-1909)
. . . . . . . . . . +Ole A KRAGNES (Apr 23, 1858-1915)
. . . . . . . . . . 2-Benhard JOHNSON (Mar 1869-)
. . . . . . . . . . +Kaia M ECKMAN (Sep 1860-)
. . . . . . . . . . 2-Peder Odin (Peter) JOHNSON (Sep 19, 1871-Mar 12, 1950)
. . . . . . . . . . +Julia Eliza LANDRO (Sep 28, 1884-Sep 28, 1947)
. . . . . . . . . . 2-Emelia ("Emelie") JOHNSON (1873-Jun 8, 1913)
. . . . . . . . . . +Ole LANDRO (-)
. . . . . . . . . . 2-Ovedia JOHNSON (1875-)
. . . . . . . . . . +Lars H ROSTVOLD (abt 1858-Jan 31, 1931)
. . . . . . . . . . 2-Martin Ole JOHNSON (Oct 2, 1877-Mar 19, 1963)
. . . . . . . . . . +Petra MIKKELSON (Mar 17, 1883-Apr 29, 1918)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3-Norton Orvis JOHNSON (Apr 3, 1911-Dec 25, 1968)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +Mary Frances WINTER (Feb 15, 1924-1976)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4-Carra Louise JOHNSON (Dec 15, 1946-)

Carra Johnson
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2012 :  17:46:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Perhaps a story was published concerning their reunion that the picture represents?

The Chronicling America newspaper database has a number of Minneapolis and St. Paul papers for the 1880s and 1890s at their site. Just Google Chronicling America and Google will find it.

Also generally what surname have you found other family using?

Good Luck

Edited by - jkmarler on 19/03/2012 17:58:53
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2012 :  21:56:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well there is no shortage of candidates. Ancestry.com gives 22 Johan Pederson or Pedersen born 1859 +/- 2 and arriving between 1880 and 1900. Can you narrow down the date of arrival somewhat? Have you used Ancestry.com as one or your sources.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2012 :  22:42:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a candidate leaving from Trondheim in 1880 named Johan A Peters. age 21 which would put his birth year at 1859.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=16&filnamn=EMITROND&gardpostnr=20829&merk=20829#ovre
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 20/03/2012 :  00:07:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Provided he never left Michigan, except for a brief visit,,,,:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22johan%20a%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Apederson~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Anorway~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1859-1859&collection_id=1675357
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carraj
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USA
107 Posts

Posted - 20/03/2012 :  02:00:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks so much folks ...
The family was all very poor, and have found little in even the local newspapers except their marriages/births/deaths.
Johan A Peters. leaving Trondheim in 1880 is a good candidate ... from the right place, right age, and we believe (but have no proof to back it up) that he emigrated first before the rest, which makes 1880 a good year.
The rest of the family all went by the name of Johnson once they arrived, seems odd that he would have been the lone one to go by Peterson, but possible.
A couple of them emigrated with the last name of Nost, the farm name.
Yes, I have subscription access to Ancestry.com (happy to look things up if you need them!) and have spent hours looking at possible candidates. As you note, there are a vast number of candidates! But have never yet found a good trail.
Johan August was 6 years old in the 1865 Census, one of 5 children at that point ...
Any further thoughts, even long-shots, please holler, I'll follow up on them!
Thanks for your input so far ... Carra

Carra Johnson
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 20/03/2012 :  02:34:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a John A Peterson in www.findagrave.com:

www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=peterson&GSfn=john&GSby=1859&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=18749610&df=all&" target="_blank">http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=peterson&GSfn=john&GSby=1859&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=18749610&df=all&
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 20/03/2012 :  02:47:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is Johan August Pederson baptism, #118. He was born on 20 July 1860:

Source information: Sør-Trøndelag county, Stadsbygd, Parish register (official) nr. 646A10 (1858-1869), Birth and baptism records 1860, page 37.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2383&idx_id=2383&uid=ny&idx_side=-41

Having the exact date of birth might help to weed out potential John / Johan Pederson / Peterson or Johnson or Nost or even Varket manually from 1900 census listings. Odds are pretty good he was alive then because of the date on the picture.

If you want to check, the Minnesota Historical society has on their page www.mnhs.org a photographer's database and if it was a studio picture it might help narrow dates based on the commercial operation of the photographer.

Edited by - jkmarler on 20/03/2012 02:53:53
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 20/03/2012 :  04:03:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think this is the arrival record for the Johan A Peters. listed above leaving from Trondheim. The birth year is off but looking at the other passengers on this page I think that this is the right person. It is from Ancestry.com so you can look it up.
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: J A Peterson
Arrival Date: 18 Jun 1880
Birth Year: abt 1841
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland and Larne, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: State of Florida
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carraj
Medium member

USA
107 Posts

Posted - 20/03/2012 :  17:25:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
THIS IS HIM!! THANK YOU!! Thank you all for your efforts! I will follow up on all of the rest of these leads today and appreciate your time and generousity very much!
quote:
Here is Johan August Pederson baptism, #118. He was born on 20 July 1860:
Source information: Sør-Trøndelag county, Stadsbygd, Parish register (official) nr. 646A10 (1858-1869), Birth and baptism records 1860, page 37.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2383&idx_id=2383&uid=ny&idx_side=-41
Many members of his parents' family -- both Peder's and Oline's, (looks like more of hers, who did live in the same area) were in attendence, I can read some of the names, but not everything ... would someone be so kind as to assist with translating those in attendance? I think one of them may be his Maternal Grandmother --

Thank you all so much! I'll post back after I follow up on the other leads!


Carra Johnson
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eibache
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Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 20/03/2012 :  17:48:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The witnesses (Godparents) were:
Peder Evensen, Rein,
Ole Evensen, Hæglie,
Skræder (Tailor) E Eriksen,
Ragnild Pedersdatter, Hegge and
Karen Johnsdatter, Rein.

Einar
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