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sniemi
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 Posted - 01/06/2005 : 06:15:18
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I know that Elise F. Keloniemi, 23, left Vadso, Norway with her two children, Marja 3 and Axel an infant. She was to join her husband, John Keloniemi (Niemi) in Calumet, Houghton, Michigan. From the Ellis Island records on the ship "Majestic", out of Liverpool, date of arrival, July 25, 1900, her name and the childrens appear, and then crossed out, on the manifest.. Then she and the children appear on the manifest for the "Oceanic", arriving the 1 Aug, 1900 from Liverpool to Ellis. How would she have gotten from Vadso to England? Ship, but what port would she have left from? Why would she have left on a different ship ? I can't find him on any ships, but still have a lot of searching to do.
What a terrible experience for her. From the manifests, I don't recognize any one who might have been with her and the children and she doesn't appear to have any money on the "Oceanic".
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Hopkins
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Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 01/06/2005 : 19:02:36
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On Hopkins link she took the ship Salmo. This was a feeder ship that took them to Hull, England, from Hull by train to Liverpool.
In the Index of Departures for this site, the S/S Salmo left Trondheim on July 12, 1900 via the Trondheim-Kristiansund-Alesund-Hull route. There is a picture of the Salmo.
In Liverpool they were put up in hotels run by the shipping companies. The delay in departing was most likely one of the children being ill and/or having a fever.
The Stjerne line was the White Star line, there is information and pictures on this site about the steamship Oceanic (2), it was built in 1899.
Even if they sailed third class this not the horrible 2-3 month voyages of the mid century sailing ships. There would have been in a small cabin with third class ladies lounges and decent food. I do not think this was a terrible experience for her, she was young and I am sure healthy and very happy to be going meet her husband in America. I am sure there were other Norwegians on the voyage that she met. The voyage was 7-9 days.
I looked at the Ellis Island website, it appears they had $75.00 on them. Their ticket was paid in America and her husband would have sent her some money. She would have had to prove that she had money before she boarded the ship. Captains were responsible to the harbors they arrived at to not bring people who were ill or unable to take care of themselves.
They did not land on Ellis Island, they were ferried over from the ship, after processing, they would have been ferried across the harbor to New Jersey to catch their train to New Jersey. The entire trip to their final destination was arranged by the shipping company agent in Norway and they would have been shepherded during the entire journey by White Star agents including getting to the trains in New Jersey. The White Star agent in Trondheim in 1900 was Gerhard Dahl.
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sniemi
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Posted - 01/06/2005 : 23:57:13
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To Hopkins and Jo Anne Sadler
re: Vadso
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!!!
You really cleared up a lot of mis-information from the family.
Family had her wandering all over England by herself with the children.
Now I can inform them differently.
Shirley Niemi
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