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starfire56
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 Posted - 01/08/2005 : 07:03:01
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| I recently found what I believe is my great-great-grandfather (Herman Ringness) and family arriving in Quebec in June 1866 on the bark Eucharis. Only his name is listed (he is listed as passenger 226 and the family is 227-230), the others showing !! !! !! for their entries. When this was transcribed, were the entires illegible or just missing? Is this something I can check? If so, how can I obtain a copy of the passenger list? |
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
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868 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2005 : 12:15:47
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Hi Kenneth
The !! indicates that the information is missing but in the 1865 census for Løiten, Hedmark, there is a Herman Ols. living on Ringnæs nordre Click Here which would appear to be this family. Emma would be Pettrine's daughter from another marriage/relationship. There is no Ringnæs farm in Romedal, which is listed as their residence on the manifest but Løiten is close so it is a good possibility that this is the correct family
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starfire56
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Posted - 01/08/2005 : 22:31:26
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Hi!
Yes, this appears to be them. I have in my possession a letter that a sister of my grandfather sent to the Norwegian records department, and the reply indicated that Herman and his family had resided on a farm in the Loiten area according to their records. The names of all the people that you connected me to also agree with this prior piece of information. Thank you very much for your assistance! Is there any other information that I can obtain on these individuals (or their relatives)? Thanks again! |
Kenneth R. Castle |
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DALB
Medium member
USA
143 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2005 : 00:22:49
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You will find data on this family at the Solorlag Stevne, which will be held in Austin, Minnesota on Sept 14 - 17
Check out their web site for details. http://www.solorlag.org/
They will have the parish films and parish transcripts for Loiten.
This very likely is your emigrant family:
Herman Olson Imsetodegard age 31 and Petrine Ericksdatter Hovind 30 were married 15 Jul 1863
His father is O Olsen and her father is E Simensen
Hermand was born 12 Aug 1831 to Ole Olsen & Hanna Hansd. Odegaard
Petrine was born 10 Jul 1932 to Erich Simensen & Elline Pedersd. Hovind
Petrine's first child, Emma Jorgensdatter, was born 1 Feb 1861 to Petrine Eriksd. Hovind and Jorgen Olsen Kjavelstad.
Hannah Hermansd. was born 3 Nov 1863 at Ringnes
Elias Hermans. was born 23 Jan 1865 at Ringnas
Pettrine's father, a widower, at his son Mekkel Eriks. - at Hovind in 1865
Click here: 1865-telling for 0415 Løiten
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f60415&gardpostnr=778&merk=778#ovre
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starfire56
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Posted - 02/08/2005 : 08:43:39
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Thank you very much for that additional information. I believe you are correct that this is indeed my immigrant family. I appreciate your providing information on the Solorlag in September - it sounds like it would be informational, educatiosnal, and fun! Unfortunately, my schedule appears to conflict with it so it is doubtful that I could attend. It is amazing how the finding of a door (someone pointing me to the norwayheritage website) could lead to finding a large unknown room behind it (the people who have already contacted me, helping me explore my Norwegian heritage). I look forward to continueing this journey into uncharted territory (at least it is from my point of view).
I do have a few questions though. Herman's last name has come down as Ringness which I gather is the name of the farm (who's farm?). You listed him as Imsetodegard. Is this another farm? If, not, what does it mean? If so, where would it be located?
Thank you very much again for the additional insight you have provided. I look forward to continued correspondence! |
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
868 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2005 : 13:12:32
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Hi Kenneth An article on the NorwayHeritage site will help with the names Click Here
This site has lots of info on researching Norwegian ancestors Click Here
Imsetodegard would most likely be the farm he was living on when he married
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Borge
Veteran Moderator
Norway
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Posted - 02/08/2005 : 17:55:25
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| There was no other information on the passenger list about the other family members. It only gave the name of the head of the household as Herman Ringnæs (hard to read) with wife and 3 children, 2 age between 1-14 and 1 infant. |
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DALB
Medium member
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Posted - 02/08/2005 : 18:33:36
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I believe the farm name is Imset and Odegard would be the name of a sub farm under Imset.
Additional family data:
born 25 Sep 1835 Mikkel to Erik Simensen and Eline Pedersd. Hovi (brother to Petrine)
Marriage 20 Apr 1830 Erick Simonsen Kjos 35 and Eline Peersd. Kolseth 23
birth 31 May 1795 Eric to Simon Ericsen and Berthe Johansd. Aarsrud
death 1872 Erik Simensen Hovind 1795
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starfire56
Starting member
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Posted - 06/08/2005 : 03:14:34
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| I have been away on business. Thank you all for being kind enough to respond to my queries. I feel as if I have just knocked on a door to a closet and found a ballroom instead. I am now very excited to learn more about my Norwegian ancestors, and about the people and country of Norway itself. Again, thank you all very, very much! |
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starfire56
Starting member
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Posted - 11/08/2005 : 20:10:00
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Hello!
I am trying to learn how to accurately know that the people I am researching are the correct ones. Can anyone provide suggestions and guidance? For example, previous posts have indicated that Herman Olson of Ringnaes farm is the same as Herman Olson Imsetodegaard. Why would we suspect this to be true? His wife is Petrine Ericksdatter Hovind - clearly she is Erick's daughter, but which Erick? Also, should I consider her name to mean Petrine Ericksdatter of Hovind? What sources should I consider using to help sort this out? Please bear with me as this is my first foray into non-English records. Thanks! |
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DALB
Medium member
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143 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2005 : 03:23:42
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Check for a Loiten Bygdebok (farm history). There may be data on the family at one of the farms they lived on.
Check out the parish films at an LDS library. The data I entered, is from the trancripts of the parish films. I have a correction on the year of Mikkel's birth. It should be 1836. Both dates were on the page and I took the wrong one. There were other children who are very likely to be siblings. You can check for baptismal sponsors etc. on the films, for additional verification. Usually a relative is a sponsor.
1830 6 Oct Birthe Lisabeth to: Erich Simensen & Elene Peersd. Kjos
1832 10 Jul Petrine
1834 13 Jul Sidsel to: Erik Simenson Finsen & Eline Pedersd
1836 25 Sep Mikkel
I did a quick check for the death of the mother. This could be her.
1838 27 May Eline Pedersd. Hovi 31
Other than Herman's birth, I did not find other children born to Ole and Hanna, nor did I find their marriage. They could have come from another parish and moved back. Check the films for the Inflyttede (incoming) and Utflyttede (outgoing) persons in the parish to see if they are listed. |
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starfire56
Starting member
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Posted - 16/08/2005 : 02:36:42
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To DALB,
Thank you for the guidance. I visited the LDS Library on-line and found a whole slew of items that might help me out. I had no idea that they would have as many non-US records as they appear to have, so it was a very good tip. I look forward to scanning the entries you have suggested, although it won't be until after the start of September. Thanks again! |
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starfire56
Starting member
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7 Posts |
Posted - 25/09/2005 : 05:58:58
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Greetings!
In reviewing the passenger list for the Eucharis in 1866, I noticed that this family appears to come from Romedal.
Is this near Loiten? If not, where can it be found? Any help in this regard is appreciated. Thanks! |
Kenneth R. Castle |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 25/09/2005 : 10:20:26
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Hi,
Romedal is now a part of Stange municipality, just south of Løten, Hedmark.
Map of Hedmark county:
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edr
Starting member
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 06:57:06
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It turns out that Herman Olsen Ringnes (Ringnæs) was also one of my great-great-grandfathers! Hello, cousin.
In the spring of 2005, with some help from this web site, I did some on-line research in the Norway Digitalarkiv. The Ringnæs Nordre farm is located at approx Lat 60° 52' 0N, Long 11° 18' 0E. If you go to the Løten kommune's web site http://www.loten.kommune.no/, click on the "Kart" button ( = "Map"), and search for Ringnes, the modern spelling. you will be able to see a detailed map of the several Ringnes farms. You can even see an aerial photo overlay, or "flybilder", of what the area looks like now. I think that the Odegaard farm ( = "Old place"?) is the one that is now called "Ringnes Sondre" ( = "Southern").
As you probably know already, Herman and Petrine settled in Stevens Point, Wisconsin. Petrine became known as Pauline, and their last name was spelled Ringness.
Thanks to the people who posted the ancestry information here! |
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edr
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1866 passenger list from Christiania
