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Roberta
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 Posted - 14/10/2005 : 22:42:46
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Lensmann Nils TORKELSEN Sunde was born circa 1560 at Sunde Br.15. I., Nes, Vest Agder, Norway. He fullmaktsgiver ved kongehyllingen in 1591. He married (--?--) PEDERSDTR Fidje, daughter of Peder JENSEN Skoland. He was 1.2.1598 nevn første gang som lensmann i Feda tingsted. 1612-1617 var han lensmann foe hele Feda tingsted. 1626-1645 innehadde han vestre distrikt, det omfattet Nes, Hidra og østre delen av Sirdalen oppover, dvs. østre Bakke Tonstad og øvre Sirdal between 1 Feb 1598 and 1645. He married Brynhild OLUFSDTR Djupvik, daughter of Oluf DJUPVIK Djupvik, circa 1599. He han eide i 1618:
Lyngdal: Skoland 1 Hud, Store Røyskår 1/2 Hud, Lille Røyskår 1/4 Hud
Sirdal: Østre Tonstad 4 Huder
Lista: Elle 2 1/2 Hud, Froeysten 1 Hud, Salen 1/2 Hud
Nes: Sunde 3 Huder, Helleland 1 Hud, Straumland 1 Hud. Djupvik 3 Huder.
Spangereid: Goksem 1 1/3 Hud, Fjellskår 1/2 Hud
Tilsammen 19 Huder 7 eng. = ca. 19 1/3 Hud (1 Hud =20 eng.)
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Djupvik og Tonstad østre kjøpte han av Beate Huitfeldt og hennes mann Christoffer Ulfeldt ved skjøte 24.5.1621 for 550 Rdl.
Elle tilpantet han seg av Hans Andersen Gullestad i 1602
Salen hadde han før 1618 tilpantet seg av Laurits Revøy.
-------------- in 1618. He died circa 1650 at Sunde Br.15 II., Nes, Vest Agder, Norway. He is mentioned Nes 2.II.213.
The above seems to translates as follows:
Sheriff Nils Torkelsen Sunde was born about 1560 at Sunde Br. 15, I, Nes, Vest Agder, Norway. He was given authority by the king in 1591. He married ? Pedersdtr Fidje, daughter of Peder Jensen Skoland. He was on February 1, 1598 first mentioned as a sheriff in Feda Township. 1612-1617 – he was sheriff for the whole Feda Township. 1626-1645 inside the western district, that included Nes, Hidra and the eastern part of upper Sirdalen, i.e., eastern Bakke Tonstad and upper Sirdal between Feb 1, 1598 and 1645. He married Brynhild Olufsdtr Djupvik, daughter of Oluf Djupvik Djupvik around 1599. He had in 1618:
Lyngdal: Skøland, 1 hud; Store (larger) Røyskår, ½ hud; Lille (little) Røyskår, ¼ hud
Sirdal: Østre (eastern) Tonstad, 4 huder
Lista: Elle, 2 ½ hud; Froeysten, 1 hud; Salen ½ hud
Nes: Sunde, 3 huder; Helleland, 1 hud; Straumland, 1 hud; Djupvik, 3 huder
Spangereid: Goksem, 1 1/3 hud; Fjellskår, ½ hud
Tilsammen: 19 huder 7 eng. = about 19 1/3 hud (1 hud=20 eng)
Djupvik and eastern Tonstad – he purchased from Beate Huitfeldt and her man Christoffer Ulfeldt by property deed on May 24, 1621 for 550 riksdaler.
He himself held all the mortgages of Hans Andersen Gullestad in 1602.
He himself had the only mortgage before1618 for Laurits Revøy.
He died around 1650 at Sunde Br. 15 II, Nes, Vest Agder, Norway. He is mentioned Nes 2 II, 213.
Would someone please verify my translation?
Thank you very much for your help, (eventually I may be able to do it on my own with enough practice)
Roberta
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eilertsen
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Posted - 15/10/2005 : 04:54:07
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1626-1645 innehadde han vestre distrikt, det omfattet Nes, Hidra og østre delen av Sirdalen oppover, dvs. østre Bakke Tonstad
Reads: 1626-1645 he (in addition) upheld western district, which included Nes, Hidra and easternepart of upper Sirdalen, meaning easter Bakke Tonstad
Hud and eng seems to indicate how many animals and fields he upheld. Some have been shared with others. I am not shure.
Elle tilpantet han seg av Hans Andersen Gullestad i 1602
Salen hadde han før 1618 tilpantet seg av Laurits Revøy.
Reads: "Elle=little creek or creekhouse??" he mortgaged (bought) from Hans...
The hall he had earlier than 1618 mortgaged from Laurits....
Hope it helps
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/10/2005 : 12:29:13
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He fullmaktsgiver ved kongehyllingen in 1591.
He was a delegate/representative [from Feda court district] at the tribute of King Christian IV in Akershus, Oslo on April 15th, 1591.
It was the Kings first visit to Norway. (He resided at Rosenborg Castle in Copenhagen.)
The King was only 14 years old then, and came to Norway to be saluted by the norwegian nobility and other prominent citizens at the Akershus castle.
Note: Oslo was destroyed by a fire in 1624, and rebuilt by King Christian IV, and the city was renamed "Christiania" after him... 
King Christian IV (1577-1648)
1612-1617 var han lensmann for hele Feda tingsted.
1612-1617 he was sheriff for the whole Feda court district.
1626-1645 innehadde han vestre distrikt, det omfattet Nes, Hidra og østre delen av Sirdalen oppover.
1626-1645 he was in charge of the western district [of Feda court district], which included Nes, Hidra and the easter part of Sirdalen and upwards.
hud was a unit of value, corresponded to the value of one bull- or cow skin.
1 hud was equal to 15.4 kg of butter. (From 1600 7.7 kg of butter)
But it does not mean that he owned half a cow, or had the house full of butter...
Jan Peter
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Roberta
Junior member
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Posted - 15/10/2005 : 18:38:37
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Thank you for your input. I "googled" the name last night and I found someone had done the following research on this same group of people: http://www.pcug.org.au/~ace/gen/html/g007.html
Listaboka, vol.1 Gard og folk by Kåre Rudjord. + p. 351 `The earliest people at Elle `Kristoffer Nilsen from Hauge is mentioned by A Berge as owner of Elle. He sold in 1602 to the prominent Kvinesdal farmer Hans Andersen Gullestad, who the same year mortgaged half of it to Nils Torkildsen Sunde of Nes. `Hans Gullestad's daughter Joran Hansdatter farmed Elle, and her husband Bjørn (Øyvindsen) Elle was in 1618 according to the estate register owner of 2 1/2 "hud", while Nils Torkildsen owned 2 1/2 "hud". In addition 1 "hud" became church property. `Nils Sunde was owner also in 1647, but in 1661 it was Hans Mikkelsen Listeid and Anders Jonsen who owned half each of this. Hans was married to Nils' granddaughter (son's daughter), and Anders Jonsen (Slevdal) was grandson (son's son) of Nils (see AHÅ 1966 p.41 ff.). `Hans Liseid's son Jon Hansen Lentz took over at Elle, but lost the farm through a property inheritance case (odelssøkmål) by Bjørn Øyvindsen's grandson (son's son) Bjørn Hansen Elle (Berge p. 606). In this case it happened that the nobleman Trond Teiste had had inherited right to Elle, but had become content with money from the Gullestad folk (see judgement of 19 January 1686). Thereby the whole of Elle came into the hands of Bjørn Øyvindsen's descendants, and we will now look at this family. But first some names from the oldest tenancy period. `Berge mentions Jens as juror (lagrettesmann) in 1591 and Ole as witness in 1601 in a case against the priest Anders Storch. `The oldest sources give this information: Kristen Elle mentioned 1594 and 1600 Jens Kristensen from Ellestrand paid in 1605 "husbondhold". In 1610 he is called "Ellestøe". He then leased an abandoned place below Skagen. We still not know if this was a son of Kristen Elle. `Lauritts of Elle paid in 1605 a fine of 3 "daler" [dollars] "for his having laid with a woman". He is mentioned in later tax returns together with Bjørn Elle. As late as in 1647 Lauits Elle was farmer of 1 1/2 "hud". He was perhaps Nils Torkildsen's man at Elle. In 1666 Hans Mikkelsen Liseid had a farm of 1 1/2 "hud".' + p. 352 `The Gullestad family at Elle `Bjørn Øyvindsen Elle, d. before 1647, m. to Joran Hansdatter Gullestad. `Children: Hans, Øyvind, Anders (to Vestre Vatne). `"Joran and her sons" were owners of 2 1/2 "hud" in Elle, and farmed in all 4 1/2 "hud".'
Kvinesdal ei bygdebok; vol.1 gards- og aettesoga by Ånen Årli, p.547. + `4. Jorun Hansdatter Elle on Lista. She was married to Bjørn Elle, and died c.1650. Hans Andersen Gullestad had bought Elle on Lista, and his daughter Jorun may have got it from him. Jorun and Bjørn worked the farm from 1609 to 1644. `They had three sons: Hans, Eivind and Anders. They divided what was left of the farm, in all 2 1/2 "hud".' Kvinesdal ei bygdebok; vol.2 gards- og ættesoga by Ånen Årli. + `Joren Hansdatter Elle in Lista Mentioned 1648. Married to Bjørn Eivindsen Elle, dead before 1648. Probate after him 3/8-1650.'
See Ånen Årli, Kvinesdal ei bygdebok vol II (1965), p. 79ff. + `3. Hans Andersen Gullestad Mentioned in the years 1584-1608. Dead before 6/7-1609. Married to Ragnhild. His wife is mentioned at the farm in the years 1609-1618. The children divided the lands after the parents on 3 July 1623 and it seems as if Ragnhild was dead before this time. Hans Gullestad is among the signatories of the oath of allegiance to King Kristian IV in 1591. Hans and Ragnhild Gullestad owned a lot of land. In the land register for Lista Len from about 1618 one can find that Ragnhild Gullestad and her sons and 1 son-in-law at that point in time were owners of 17 "huder" and 19 1/2 "engelsk". The property was distributed in the following farms: Gullestad 3 "huder" (half the farm, the other half was owned by Torjus Ofte in Herad) Slimestad 2 1/2 "hud", 4 1/2 "engelsk" (out of 4 "huder") Fundal 1/2 "hud" (the whole farm) Duvold in Lista 1 1/2 "hud" Birkeland in Feda 1 1/2 "hud" Trældal in Kvase 1 "hud" (the whole farm) Ytre Egeland 3 "huder" (half the farm) Kleven 15 "engelsk" (half the farm) Guse 1 "hud" (the whole farm) Elle in Lista 2 1/2 "hud" (half the farm) + Hans Gullestad may be seen to have been one of the greatest landlords in the Len. Some of the properties were bought. He bought Elle in Lista in 1602. He bought at once the whole farm of 5 "huder", but already the same year mortgaged 2 1/2 "hud" to the lensmann in Flekkefjord Nils Torkelsen Sunde. On 10 October 1600 he summoned in company with Stigan Røynestad and Ånon Stigansen Røynestad of the farms Helle, Nedre Kvinlog, Omland and Engedal in Fljotland, because these men considered themselves more justified to these farms than those who then owned them. It is obscure how this case actually went, but it is clear that Hans Gullestad and the other two may have have a definite property right also in this property. It has been claimed by many that the farmers who in the first half of the 16th century were owners of considerable amounts of landed property, in all likelihood were part of the remnants of earlier Norwegian gentry who were "sunk down in the farmer class". It could be natural to think of something like that also concerning the family at Gullestad. Both this farm and the other farms south of Gullestad down to the river mouth are clearly the oldest in the valley and single themselves out, all things considered, as possible chieftains' seats in olden times. But of this it may be said that no one knows for sure, and one should not forget that then as now, a new man from the common people, if he was in possession of outstanding ability, could get ahead in the world and collect to himself much of the goods of the world. None of the descendants were later owners of so many estates as Hans and Ragnhild Gullestad. The number of children was besides great, and when each took his share there was not so much to go around. Torjus Ofte in Herad owned half of Gullestad in 1618. Throughout the first half of the 17th century one finds steady folk in Herad who own bits of land in Gullestad. Some such family connection between Torjus Ofte and Hans Gullestad has been impossible to demonstrate up to now. Hans and Ragnhild had 8 children. Considerable information is got about all these children in a lawsuit of 1666.'
Thanks again,
Roberta
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jrjkspauld
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Posted - 15/10/2005 : 22:54:59
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| My greatgrandmother and my grandmother came to the us in 1918 I received my greatgrandmothers bible when my father passed away in August of this year. It is all in Norweigan and I also have their boarding pass and letters that i need translated. Two childrens bibles one printed in 1898 the other dated 1889. I would like for some one to contact me . |
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