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NearNorsewood
Kiwi Viking special member

New Zealand
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Posted - 28/10/2005 :  23:58:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am trying to work out the location of "Vangs Prgj."

I have found Vang, Oppland, on a map, but also found references to Vang, Hedmark.

Also, would the following family have been from Oppland or Hedmark?
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0414&kenr=005&bnr=0050&lnr=000

Was the above family living close to Hamar?

Thanks!

Pip
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 29/10/2005 :  00:15:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
using this page, you'll see that all municipality numbers starting with 04 belongs to Hedmark county.

Municipality number: 0414 Vang does not exist anymore. According to this page, Vang in Hedmark is now under Hamar municipality.

So the place you're linking to is in Hamar.

If you look here, you'll see that Vang municipality in Oppland still exist.
This is a different Vang, and has municipality number 0545.

This old map shows both Vang locations, 0545 Wang to the (far) left, and 0414 Wang above the lake "Mjøsa":



Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 29/10/2005 00:31:16
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NancyC
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Norway
198 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2005 :  01:04:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This Vang Parish is indeed in Hedmark, but the farm where the people were living, Gålås øvre, is in old Furnes County. Furnes used to be a part of Vang Parish, but now Furnes is a part of Ringsaker County. On the map above you can see that a dotted line divides Vang Parish, and the part to the west is old Furnes, now in Ringsaker. You may find these people in Furnes bygdebok, vol. 1. I took a quick look and did not find them, but if you go back to the first domicile at Gålås øvre, http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0414&kenr=005&bnr=0045, you can confirm many of the people in this household on page 550 of Furnes bygdebok. Even though Gålås øvre is in Furnes, it is not far from Hamar. However, in 1865, Hamar was a very small place, hardly a town!
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NancyC
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Norway
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Posted - 29/10/2005 :  01:15:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just checked the link in my message above, and it doesn't seem to work. If you go back 5 domiciles, you will get the main domicile at Gålås øvre. 11 persons in this domicile. Here is a link to a map, showing Gålås between Brumunddal and Hamar http://search.kvasir.no/query?what=map&content=&geo_area=&company_name=&streetname=G%C5L%C5S&streetnumber=&city=FURNES&postal_code=2320&mapstate=7%3B11.0718%3B60.8602%3B1%3B11.0644%3B60.8633%3B11.0792%3B60.8571%3B&mapcomp=%3B%3B%3BG%C5L%C5S%3B%3B%3B2320%3BFURNES%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B11.0686837431679%3B60.8602320381691%3B0%3B0&heading_exact=&heading=&heading_group=&mop=l4&stq=0&ns=&advanced=&match_name=&match_street=&cityarea=&parking=&delivery=
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NearNorsewood
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New Zealand
138 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2005 :  10:36:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for this information.

Unfortunately, I'm still a bit confused. Would someone who was born in Hamar have listed their birthplace as Vangs Prgj. in
the 1865 census?

I am trying to research a journal written by a woman b. 1897 d. 1975. She says her paternal grandfather, Johannes Johansen,
was born in Hamar. The census records his birthplace as "Vangs Prgj." as above. Her maternal grandfather was definitely
born in Hamar, so at first I thought she just had the 2 confused.

Also, can you tell me how to access the Furnes bygdebok?

Thanks.




Pip
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Norsewood Cemetery & Settlers' Genealogies Project
www.norsewoodcemetery.co.nz

Edited by - NearNorsewood on 29/10/2005 10:38:49
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NancyC
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Norway
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Posted - 29/10/2005 :  12:15:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hamar was an important center of religious and political power in the Middle Ages, but about the time of the Reformation (1536), the town was destroyed. As a result rural Vang, with many large and economically important farms, became the center of the area. Hamar was reestablished as a town in 1849. But at its refounding it consisted of 4 houses! As the railroad was being built at this time up to Hamar, it did grow fairly rapidly, and during the later 1800s it became a railroad center and school center.
There was no church in Hamar during this period, so a person born in Hamar would probably be listed as born in Vang prestegjeld (Parish). If you find the person you are looking for in a census, it will certainly list where they lived (town address or farm). Since your ancestor has a -sen name, it would strengthen the theory that the family lived in Hamar, rather than on a farm. People living on a farm would probably use the patronym as a middle name and the farm name as a surname.
As to Furnes bygdebok, I imagine you can loan a copy through the interlibrary loan service in New Zealand.: Furnes bygedbok, vol. 1. Furnes historielag, 1941. Reprinted 1996. ISBN 82-90973-03-9 (KLP) or ISBN 82-90973-04-7 (BD.1)
Otherwise, you can probably still purchase a copy by contacting Furnes historielag: Furnes historielag, N-2320 Furnes, NORWAY
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NearNorsewood
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New Zealand
138 Posts

Posted - 31/10/2005 :  22:06:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you, Nancy. This is a great help.

Pip
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www.norsewoodcemetery.co.nz
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NearNorsewood
Kiwi Viking special member

New Zealand
138 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2005 :  03:25:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, Jan Peter.

Where did you get the above map? Do you know if there are any similar maps on the internet? They would be very helpful for my project.

Thanks.

Pip
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Norsewood Cemetery & Settlers' Genealogies Project
www.norsewoodcemetery.co.nz

Edited by - NearNorsewood on 01/11/2005 09:39:45
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Hopkins
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USA
3351 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2005 :  23:08:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maps on a link of the Digitalarkivet -
http://digitalarkivet.no/norkart/
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NearNorsewood
Kiwi Viking special member

New Zealand
138 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2005 :  20:47:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you! These will be very helpful, and save me a huge amount of time.

Pip
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Norsewood Cemetery & Settlers' Genealogies Project
www.norsewoodcemetery.co.nz

Edited by - NearNorsewood on 02/11/2005 20:47:48
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