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Norway2Wisconsin
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 Posted - 31/10/2005 : 04:49:06
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Greetings from Minnesota. Through the information available here I was able to discover the name of the ship that my Andreassen ancestors came to America in 1867. THANK YOU!!
The Andreassen's were from the Kolvereid parish which was north of Namsos.The oldest brother of Christian Andreassen, Johan Andreassen, inherited the farm of Prestvik back in 1856.
The Blomqvist's I have traced back to 1865 and at that time were in the Mo area. They lived in the Nesna area until immigrating to America in 1903.
The families settled in the Baldwin & Woodville towns of Wisconsin.
My question is this, how might I go about trying to contact some people in Norway that would be able to assist me in seeing if any relatives exist? I had discovered that the "white pages" for the areas in Norway also listed some email addresses. I wrote to several people that had their email addresses listed, but no one responded...
Your help is greatly appreciated!! 
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Odd Hansen
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Norway
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Posted - 03/11/2005 : 23:26:31
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Hello !
I have looked for your Andreassens in Kolvereid, there are 28 of them and one named Johan, he was a fisherman.
In Nærø there was 6 Andreassen, 2 of them named Christian one 38 and the other 25 both in the 1865 census, both married.
Its very likely that all this Andreassens are raleted one way or the other.
Do you have more info age, children aso ?
Best wishes
Odd Hansen |
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Odd Hansen
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Norway
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Posted - 03/11/2005 : 23:55:59
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Hello again !
If all the Blomqvists emigrated from Nesna it would be difficult to find some relatives in Norway, they were most likely Swedes,who first tried their luck here in Norway, before living for the USA. Give me some names, year of birth, so I will have a look.
All the best
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Norway2Wisconsin
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 05:09:52
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Thank you for responding to my request. My wife & I are excited!! We have been doing family research for the 31 years that we have been married and we really enjoy it.
As for my Andreassen side of the family, I have a starting date of 1795 when Christian Andreassen's father, Andreas Haagensen Soraaunet of Naeroy was born. Andreas drown at sea on August 16th 1856. His body was found on October 4th, and he was buried on November 2nd in the Kolvereid parish cemetery.
Christian's mother was Ellen Iversdtr Prestvik. She was born in 1810, married July 10,1828 in the Kolvereid church. I have no record of her death.
They had 8 children:
Karen Maria Andreassen Prestvik - born 9/20/1829
Johan Hartvig Andreassen Prestvik - born 11/22/1830 (inherited Prestvik farm)
Haagen Andressen Prestvik - born 3/11/1833
Elen Kirstine Andreassen Prestvik - born 7/21/1835
Christian Andreassen Prestvik - born 4/11/1841 - my Great Great Grandfather
Andreas Edvard Andreassen Prestvik - born 2/12/1844
Catherine Andreassen Prestvik - born 1/3/1847 - married 11/29/1871 - immigrated to America
Peter Kristian Andreassen Prestvik - born 8/10/1849 - - immigrated to America
On August 1, 1863, Ellen Iversdtr, widow, married Peder Pedersen Sandnesenget of Naeroy. He was 55 and she was 53. They continued to live at Prestvik.
The 1865 information that I have shows that Johan Andreassen (age 36) and his wife Stina Iverstdtr (age 35) had 3 sons.
Anton Johansen age 7 years, Johan Johansen age 5, and Magnus Johansen age 2. All were born at Kolvereid.
Also shown was Katrine Andreasdtr age 19, and Peter J. Pedersen, Peder's son age 11.
Christians wife was Hanna Julianna Hansdtr. Her parents were Hans Hansen Ottersoy born 1793 and her mother, Kirstine Hansdtr Garmannvik born 1801. They were married 12/28/1825 in Naeroy.
They had 5 children:
Hans Hansen - born 10/10/1825 - Naeroy -Perished at sea
Petter Andreas Hansen - born 2/13/1829 - Naeroy - Perished at sea
Bereth Maria Hansdtr - born 10/16/1831 - Naeroy
Henrik Hansen - born 9/16/1836 - died 10/5/1836
Hanna Julianna Hansdtr - born 4/11/1849 - married 6/23/1865 - died 2/3/1933 in Wisconsin
I appreciate your help in finding if I have any Andreassen or Johansen relatives alive today.
One question for you, in what year was it decided that the families keep their last name the same instead of becoming the "son" or "dtr" of the fathers first name? It has made it interesting and challenging at times to connect everyone.
Thank you again!!
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Odd Hansen
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Norway
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 19:00:51
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Hello !
Here are the family from the 1801-census. Here we see that
Haagen Olssen is 55 years old so he must be born about 1756.
His wife is 40 and arond 1761 should be her day of birth.
672 Haagen Olssen Huusbonde 55 Begge i 1ste ægteskab Bonde og gaardbruger M
673 Elen Caspersd Hans kone 40 Begge i 1ste ægteskab K
674 Ole Haagensen Deres børn 21 Ugivt M
675 Casper Haagensen Deres børn 14 M
676 Hans Haagensen Deres børn 8 M
677 Andreas Haagensen Deres børn 6 M
678 Elisabeth Haagensd Deres børn 17 K
679 Christina Haagensd Deres børn 9 K
680 Seriana Haagensd Deres børn 4 K
681 Maria Haagensd Deres børn 3
Here is Haagen, Johans brother working on Øiehals farm in the 1865 census. He is 32 and not married
1865-telling for 1751 Nærø
Nærø Øiehals 276 1
Personnr. Hushald Førenamn Etternamn Fam. stilling Yrke Sivilstand Alder Kjønn Fødestad Stort kveg Får Geit Svin Bygg Havre Poteter
959 5 1 Karen Stefensd. Bygselkone e 68 k Kolvereid Prgj.
Peternille Nielsd. hendes Datter Moderen behjælpelig ug 27
961 7 Caroline Taraldsd. Tjenestepige ug 19 k Nærø Prgj.
962 8 Haagen Andreass. Tjenestedreng ug 32 m Kolvereid
963 9 Nicolai Hans. Pleiesøn ug 14 m Nærø Prgj.
964 10 1 Johan Ols. Inderst Fisker g 31 m Skogns Prgj.
965 11 Nicoline Nielsd. hans Kone g 30 k Nærø Prgj.
966 12 Niels Johans. deres Søn ug 3 m Nærø Prgj.
more later
Both Andreassen and Johansen are very common names here
so it will be difficult., but we will see.
There was not a decission to change the system of the names as far as I know it was a process which started around 1850 and ended about 1900 at least so in my family
I am looking for a couple of persons in my family, could you help me as well, in USA that is ?
Best wishes
Odd
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Odd Hansen
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Norway
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 22:13:44
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Hello again !
Here are Johans brother Christian working at Ottersø farm in 1865.
809 26 Christian Andreass. Tjenestedreng g 25 m Kolvereid
810 27 Julianna Hansd. hans Kone g 26 k Nærø Prgj.
811 28 Petra Christiansd. deres Datter ug 1 k Nærø Prgj.
Here A brother Andreas and siser Katerine still living by the parents. Note thar Peter have name after his mothers husbods name he is a Pedersen not Andreassen ?
1865-telling for 1752 Kolvereid
Distriktsnr. Side Skuledistrikt Sokn Prestegjeld Gard Overskrift
186 2 211 2det og 3die Foldereid Kolvereid Præstvig* 1
Personnr. Hushald Førenamn Etternamn Fam. stilling Yrke Sivilstand Alder Kjønn Fødestad
1428 3 1 Peder Peders. Husfader Føderaadsmand g 57 m Kolvereids
1429 4 Elen Iversd. hans Kone g 54 k Kolvereids Prgj.
1430 5 Katrine Andreasd. hendes Datter ug 19 k Kolvereids P
1431 6 Peter J. Peders. hans Søn ug 11 m Kolvereids Prgj.
Here their sister Elen, at least I think so but note that the midlename is Anna in stead of Kirstine ? What du you think ?
55 1 185 1ste Foldereid Kolvereid Kongsmo 165 2
Personnr. Hushald Førenamn Etternamn Fam. stilling Yrke Sivilstand Alder Kjønn Fødestad Hestar Stort kveg Får Geit Svin Bygg Havre Poteter
432 15 1 Olaus Johns. Husfader Gbr. og Selveier g 33 m Kolvereids Prgj. 2 10 15 2 1 1 1/2 4 6
433 16 Elen Anna Andreasd. hans Kone g 31 k Kolvereids Prgj.
434 17 Jacob Marthin Olauss.* deres Søn ug 7 m Kolvereids Prgj.
435 18 Andreas Olaus. deres Søn ug 4 m Kolvereids Prgj.
436 19 Christine Olausd. deres Datter ug 9 k Kolvereids Prgj.
437 20 Johanna Olausd. deres Datter ug 2 k Kolvereids Prgj.
Best wishes
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Odd Hansen
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Norway
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Posted - 05/11/2005 : 23:13:46
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Hello again !
Here comes the first person who might gives us a relative or two, Signe is only 3 years in the 1900 census, so there is a chance that her children have made some relatives that still lives. The Prestvik farm is still owned by the family.
1900-telling for 1752 Kolvereid
Personliste Herad Krets Gardnr Bruksnr. Gard Uthus Tal pers. Pers. tilstades Pers. heimehøyrande Korn, potet Kreatur Fjærkre Bikubar Kjøkkenhage Frukthage
172 13 Kolvereid 3 29 1, 3 Prestvik (gaard) n 3 3 3 j j j n n n
Hushald nr. Førenamn Etternamn Kjønn Busett Fam. stilling Sivilstand Yrke Fødd år Fødestad Nasjonalitet Trussamf.
1109 1 Johan Johanness. m b hf g Gårdbruger S og fisker 1859 t n s
1110 Maren Hansd. k b hm g Gårdmandskone 1856 t n s
1111 Signe Johansd. k b d ug 1897 t n s
Digitalarkivet
Johans brothers I have not found yet, must have to do with all the varation of the name or they have died.
Thats all for now,
Odd
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Norway2Wisconsin
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Posted - 06/11/2005 : 05:02:09
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Dear Odd,
Thank you again for helping us with this search. You've given me so much information that it will take a little time to piece it all together. This is truly exciting to be able to trace my ancestors so far back in time. We were very fortunate to have traveled to Salt Lake City, Utah a couple of times and I was able to view a microfilm that showed my ancestors and the ship, the Victor, that brought them across the Atlantic Ocean back in 1867 to Quebec Canada.
I would be honored to help you do some research for your relatives that are here in the USA as well. Let me know what you need.
As for my Blomqvist side of the family, my Grandmother often times told me a story about how an ancestor of our was "way up in Mo i Rana" and was found to be barefoot when he met a young lady that later became his wife. His name was Nils Blomqvist. My Grandmother often wondered if maybe he had left Sweden in hopes of not having to serve in the Army. ( ? ) His name on the 1875 census for the Nord-Rana area at the domicile of Overdal has his name listed as Niels Peder Blomqvist, born 1839 in Sverig It also shows his wife is Gjertrud Jacobsdatter, born 1849 in Nord-Rana, ( 1900 census lists her birth place as Hemnes Norway), and their daughter Elen Johanna Nielsdatter, born 1875 in Nord-Rana. ( my Grandmothers mother ) Also listed on that census is Gjertrud's parents, Jacob Jacobssen, Elen Pedersdatter, and their son, Jacob Jacobsen.
The 1900 census shows them in the municipality of Nesna at the domicle of Refsnes. Is domicle the Norwegian word for farm? Also shown in 1900 is that the Blomqvist family had grown, and most of the children were born in Nesna.
Having checked the "white pages" listings for the Nesna & surrounding areas, I was amazed at how common the Blomqvist name is today. The name was changed to Blomquist here in America, and Nils became Nels.
It was by chance that I happened to discover the Norwegian Historical Data Center while visiting in Salt lake City & it has been a wealth of information! Many of the stories that my grandmother had told to me since I was a young boy have come together with what I discovered there. Grandma had mentioned how Nils was a "blacksmith" in Wisconsin. Tracing back through the NHDC I found that in the 1875 census he was listed as a Kobberslager ( copper smith I was told ) and the 1900 census shows that he was a Blikkenslager ( is that a silver smith? )
Stories were told about how the men would travel up to the Lofuten islands to fish during the summer.
I am very fortunate to know some of the history of my Norwegian & Swedish ancestors and very proud to be a descendant of them.
I have a goal for Christmas... I have many pictures, NHDC information, Ellis Island information, etc that I have collected through the years. I plan to put all of this on a Power Point presentation and then record this on DVD as I explain about my ancestors and all that I have collected. These CD's & DVD's I'll give to all of my relatives so that they can know where we came from and they in turn can pass this information down to future generations. Each day that passes gets closer to Christmas!! But I'll get it down.... if not, maybe by New Years!! .... or Easter..... :)
Thanks again Odd, I sincerely appreciate all of your help!!
PS: Do you live near the Nesna or Mo i Rana areas? I am about an hour north of Minneapolis/St. Paul in Minnesota |
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Odd Hansen
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Norway
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Posted - 06/11/2005 : 17:48:39
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Hello !
Here I found Anton as well, he has also 2 children.
1900-telling for 1751 Nærø
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2163 1 Anton Johans. m b hf g gårdbruger, selveier og sjøfart 1859 Kolvereid NT n s
2164 Anna Johannesd. k b hm g gårdmandskone, husgjerning 1855 Kolvereid NT n s
2165 Jens Antons. m b s ug søn (intet erverv) 1890 t n s
2166 Amanda Antonsd. k b d ug datter (intet erverv) 1892 t
I will take a look at the Blomquists later on, consentrating on the other family first. So far Johan and his family are the most certain track to follow, Cathrine and Peter emigrated so if they have children they are in the USA, Haagen seems to be a loner without children. Karin and Elen must be tracked down, they might have a lot of children as well.
Magnus I cant find at this stage.
When my familimembers in the US concern , I have a such for them here as wel,l they are under the label Karl Vilhelm Hansen. I hope you find something, good luck.
As you see I have found that he most likely was in Pennsylvania up to 1936 when the started with the Social Security Cards, his was issued there. I suspect that also other familymembers was situated nearby, he was only 18 when he came over so obviously he must have have stayed by relatives in the beginning. Thanks for helping out.
Best wishes
Odd
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Obelix
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Norway
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Posted - 06/11/2005 : 19:37:34
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Hello!
Blikkenslager - My dictionary uses the word tinsmith on that occupation. The norwegian word for silversmith are rarely used as it goes along with goldsmith as "gullsmed" |
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Odd Hansen
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Norway
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Posted - 06/11/2005 : 20:01:35
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Hello !
I could not find more about Johansen/ Andreassen or my own family so I looked for the Blomquists. Here I found Nils and family in the 1900 census
1900-telling for 1828 Næsne
2381 1 Nils Blomqvist m b Hf g Husmand Jordbrugende og Blikkenslager 1840 Borgevik i Sverige N S
2382 Gjertrud Blomqvist k b Hm g Husmandskone. Husgj. og Kreaturstel 1849 Hemnes Nor N S
2383 Hans Nilsen m b S ug Dagarbeider. Jordarbeider 1882 T
2384 Arvid Nilsen m b S ug Dagarbeider. Jordarbeider 1884
2385 Andrea Nilsdatter k b D ug Datter 1886 T N S
2386 Gjertrud Nilsdatter k b D ug Datter 1891 T N S
Here are another Blomqvist from the same area, I do not know if it is family
2370 Elen Blomqvist k b Tj ug Tjenestepige Husgjerning 1875 Mo i Helgeland Nor N
Here the 1875 census, here we find Elen again, here you see an exampel of this change of names. Elen goes from being a Nielsdtr to Blomqvist during the periode 1875 to 1900
2915 16 1 Niels Peder Blomqvist m hf g Inderst, Kobberslager og Fisker 1839 Sverig b
2916 17 Gjertrud Jacobsdatter k hans Kone g 1849 Nord-Rana b
2917 18 Elen Johanna Nielsdatter k d 1875 Nord-Rana b
In the 1865 census I did not find the family.
No, I am from Trondheim, it is not to far to Kolvereid roughly 250 km, up to Mo i Rana is about 2 days with the car it is possible in 1 day but nor to be recommanded.
Domicite = the place you live in your home so to speak, it could be anything from a very small Cottage/cabin to self owned farms.
Odd
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Norway2Wisconsin
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Posted - 07/11/2005 : 02:35:45
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Odd,
Thank you once again for helping with this research!! I had to share all of the information that you had given me with everyone at work today. They were amazed that I now have a list of ancestors that can be traced back to 1756!! They are my Great, Great, Great, Great Grandparents!!
I have some questions about the words that you had sent.
For the 1801 census is lists Haagen Olssen with the words of Begge, 1ste aegteskab Bonde og gaardbruger M. What does that mean?
For Ole Haagensen is shows: Deres born 21 Ugivt M. What does that mean?
As for the other children, I see a number with the letter of M or K. I assume that M is for male & K is for female?
I see further down the words of Kolvereid Prgj and Skogns Prgj. What does the Prgj mean?
It was funny to have you write and say that the Andreassen and Johansen names are very common there. That is true here where we live in Minnesota as well. My wife and I had gone to vote a couple of years ago in town for the school board election. We had assumed that there was only a single line for everyone to vote. As the line slowly moved forward I realized that in fact there were 2 lines. One sign hung from the ceiling indicating that it was for people with the last name that was A through L. The 2nd line was for those with the letters of M through Z. That line was empty!! We immediately stepped over to the correct line and and went to the front to vote. I had laughed at having made the mistake and not realizing it. A guy next to me laughed also and said that most everyones name in the area is either Anderson or Johnson!!
You had a question about Peter J. Pedersen not having the Andreassen last name. He was the son of Peder Pederson, and Peder had re-married Ellen Iversdtr who was widowed when her husband had drown at sea in 1856.
Another question for you, would there be tombstones made of stone from the 1856 time, or would they have been made of wood? I'm curious to see what might still be there to view.
We do someday hope to travel to Norway and Sweden and see where our ancestors had lived.
My grandmother had saved a newspaper article from the mid 1960's that had mentioned the area of Mo i Rana. The writer of the article had said that the area was very harsh and he could not understand how anyone could have survived living there.
I had heard that those who lived in the area many years ago were somewhat of a nomadic type people that lived and traveled with the herds of caribou or reindeer. Do you suppose that my Swedish Blomqvist ancestors have been like that having been "way up in Mo i Rana" as my grandmother had always said?
Thank you for sharing where you live in Norway too. I've enjoyed finding pictures of the many beautiful fjords and mountains that exist in Norway. Feel free to send pictures to our email address any time if you'd like. Our daylight has grown very short here, and most time is spent indoors. A picture of a beautiful sunrise or sunset would warm our spirits here. :)
Thank you again Odd!!
Miles
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Norway2Wisconsin
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Posted - 07/11/2005 : 02:56:00
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Obelix, ( Magne ), thank you for your help in translating what the words mean. I am learning so many things in such a short time.... this is soooooo cool!! ( that's an old 70's term from my teenage years)
Are you located in Nesne area? A cousin's daughter was able to travel to Nesna a few years ago and I am fortunate to have received a picture of the church there. It is so beautiful. I had the honor of returning a postcard to her father that he had sent to my grandmother from Nesna back in 1965. My grandmother had enjoyed it for nearly 40 years and would always comment about it when I would visit her. I knew that he would be thrilled to get it back, and he was.
Feel free to share what ever information that you have about yourself & beautiful Norway.
Thank you,
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Norway2Wisconsin
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Posted - 07/11/2005 : 03:02:17
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Odd,
I have a picture of my Blomqvist ancestors that was taken in Trondhjem I believe shortly before they had departed for America. The name of the Photographers business on the bottom of the picture is Olsen & Wikborg.
Would that name still exist today or the area where the business had been located?
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Odd Hansen
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Norway
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Posted - 07/11/2005 : 14:00:43
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Hello again !
Bonde og gardbruker =farmer
Aekteskap = marrige
Prgj = which church they belonged to, Norway is/was diveded into areas that belong to a church in addition to the parish.
Ugivt = not married
Begge !.aekteskap= ! marriage for both of them
I have found a little about Haagen Olsen (Ole Haagensens father) in a book. he came from Grong married Elen Catrine Wullf and got 13 children. Wullf sounds german to me, not a norwegian name if you ask me. Haagen was born 1752 accourding to this new info.I have made copies for you so I need your adress if you want them.
I also found Johan Andreassen with 9 children so some more have seen the ligth of day. I also found both Karen and Elen with husbands.
Yes, our "indians " had/have a tradition to move around with the
reindeers, but not the Hansens,Johansens, Blomqvists aso,
they usually did a combined farm/fishing activity, in fact they did
whatever needed to survive. Norway Was one of the poorest countries in Europe back then.
Tombstones in stone can be found that old, but this is very rare,
in Trondheim they will be taken away as soon as no one pays the tax anymore, normally 20 years.
Have you foud my add, cocerning my family ?
That was all for now
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Odd Hansen
Junior member
Norway
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Posted - 07/11/2005 : 17:08:13
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Hello again !
I forgot to tell you the name of Haagen Olsens parents
Ole Pedersen, Mediå farm in Grong
wife: Kiersten Nielsdtr.
and wife Elens parents: Casper Hansen Wullf and Maria Madsdtr. Muus.
That takes you back another generation maybe around 1730
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Other Andreassen & Blomqvist's?
