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phelland
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Posted - 13/02/2006 :  04:47:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found another clue to the ship my great great grandparents sailed from Norway to America on. :

On the ocean the ship on which they traveled collided with another vessel, which split and sank. On the steam ship there was a wild excitement when people were afraid it also was damaged and would sink. Ole and Ingri stayed peacefully down in their room. One of their friends went down to them. There Ole sat giving a child food. What danger they were in. Ingri responded: "Wouldn’t you think it amusing if we now go to heaven, when we thought we were only going to America?"

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I searched the ship disaster section of this site and could not find an incident of a collision in 1869. The year is known for sure - does anyone know which ships collided and which sank - the other one was the one carrying my great great grandparents - they could have been under just about any name. Their names had many variations; Ole Thorston Simley;Ole Meiningen Simley; Ingri Meiningen Simley (also known as Inger or Ingrid) are probably the most commonly used.

Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 13/02/2006 :  19:08:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What is your source of that information? Sometimes family stories evolve over the years and get embellished. You need to find out exactly when they emigrated and the line/ship involved to do further research. They probably left from Stavanger:

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If you don't find them in the Stavanger database, search ports around there.

You can also find them in the "moving out" records of the local parish church records which should be available for rental at a local Family History Center.

Have you checked the passenger lists on this site? There are ships from Stavanger at that time going to Quebec.

Edited by - Jo Anne Sadler on 13/02/2006 19:16:39
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phelland
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Posted - 15/02/2006 :  10:30:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have received part of a family biography which gave the ship name, port and date of sailing, and their names are not in the databases of Castle Garden. I have the date, May 28, 1869; the ship, the Oder; and the voyage, from Christiana to Liverpool where they transferred. The Oder is on the ship list of this site, but there is no passenger list. So one has to assume these lists are not yet entered into the database or perhaps lost. Anyway, the story about colliding with another ship which broke in half and sank is certainly a fish tale. Nothing like that is mentioned on the sedate and normal list of the Oder's activities. I appreciate the help and advice. I think this is all I'll ever know about their voyage over and I guess it's enough. On to more vital concerns now.

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Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 15/02/2006 :  18:57:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Oder was a feeder ship that took emigrants to Hull, England, there are no passenger lists for the short transit feeder ship voyages.

If you look at the list of departures on this site for 1869, there were no voyages to New York, emigrants would have traveled to Quebec. There are Canadian passenger lists for this period, since you know the date they left Stavanger you can narrow down the search for a very specific time. They could have have a minor collision at sea.
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