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nucmedtek
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 Posted - 03/05/2006 : 20:55:34
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Emigrated 1873 to Minnesota. Gunder born 1814, Isabelle 1820.
Children: Edward G. b 18 Feb 1857
John b. 1862
Edwood b. 1859
Gedvard b. 1865
Edward G. married Caroline Christenson , b. Nov 1860, emgr 1863, parents unknown,.
Caroline died 1911 in Saskatchewan, Canada. Believe they emg to Canada from MN approx 1904. I believe she had siblings as I recall as a child visiting Christenson relatives in Saskatchewan with my father. |
Raymond E. Gysler |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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3351 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2006 : 23:41:48
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| What is the question??? |
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nucmedtek
Starting member
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Posted - 04/05/2006 : 00:04:18
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| Where did they originate? Unable to find any records other than the facts presented in the 1880 census records. Can you locate Isabelle's maiden name? |
Raymond E. Gysler |
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nucmedtek
Starting member
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Posted - 04/05/2006 : 00:07:02
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| Secondarily, since Caroline was my gr-grandmother would be interested in seeing if you can find any information on her as well. |
Raymond E. Gysler |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 01:14:25
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| If it is YOUR family - why don't YOU find more information??? You've mentioned 1880 census records - but where? US? who? What sort of a silly 'test' is this??? |
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ninakarls
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 04/05/2006 : 01:27:11
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Looks like they left from Kristiania on ship Hero of the Inman Line 27.06.1873:
Gunder Eriks. Frami g Gaardbr. m 56
Ingeborg Frami* g Hustru k 53
Marit Gundersd. g Kone k 29
Gunhild Gundersd.* ug Gaardmd. k 22
Pernille Gundersd.* ug Gaardmd. k 19
Eduard Gunders. ug Gaardms m 16
Gedvard Gunders. ug Gaardms m 11
John Gunders. ug Gaardms m 9
Sigrid Christiansd. ug Tj.Pige k 28
Bergsvend Johns. e Arbm. m 52
This party were all from Solliden, Ringebu, Gudbrandsdalen (Oppland Conty) headed for La Crosse, Wisconsin
The family (including his mother) in the 1865 census for 0580 Sollien
Frons Thinglag, 1/2 Del af Frami (farm no 274a 2)
Gunder Eriks. Husfader Gaardbruger og Selveier g 50 m Lesjø
Ingeborg Gjetvaldsd. hans Kone g 46 k Sollien
Edvart Gunders. hans Søn ug 9 m Sollien
Gedevart Gunders. hans Søn ug 6 m Sollien Idiot
John Gunders. hans Søn ug 3 m Sollien
Elene Gundersd. hans Datter ug 17 k Sollien
Gunhild Gundersd. hans Datter ug 15 k Sollien
Pernille Gundersd. hans Datter ug 13 k Sollien
Marit Johnsd. hans Moder Føderaadskone e 82 k Sollien
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f60580&gardpostnr=28&personpostnr=217&merk=217#ovre
From FS:
Father: GUNDER ERIKSEN
Mother: INGEBORG GJETVALDSDR
Married 16 JUL 1844 Ringebu, Oppland, Norway
MARIT GUNDERSEN
Christening: 17 MAR 1844 Ringebu, Oppland, Norway
MALI GUNDERSEN
Christening: 14 SEP 1846 Ringebu, Oppland, Norway
ELENA GUNDERSEN
Christening: 18 MAR 1849 Ringebu, Oppland, Norway
GUNILD GUNDERSEN
Christening: 14 SEP 1851 Ringebu, Oppland, Norway
PERNILLE GUNDERSEN
Christening: 20 MAR 1854 Ringebu, Oppland, Norway
EDVARD GUNDERSEN
Christening: 15 MAR 1857 Ringebu, Oppland, Norway
GEDVARD GUNDERSEN
Birth: 28 JAN 1860
Christening: 18 MAR 1860 Ringebu, Oppland, Norway
GUNDER ERIKSEN
Christening: 01 JAN 1816 Lesja, Oppland, Norway
Father: ERICH GUNDERSEN
1801-census for 0512 Lessøe
Christians Amt LessøeHoved Sogn Farm: Tande Stor
Gunder Ericsen Husbonde 58 Gift 1ste gang Huusmand med jord M
Aagodt Hansdtr Hans kone 60 Gift 1ste gang K
Eric Gundersen Deres børn 16 M
Kari Gundersdtr Deres børn 17 K
Margrete Gundersdtr Deres børn 12
These are of uncertain origin:
Erik Gunnarsen
Birth: 1793 Aur-Tande,Tande-Stor-Tande, Lesja, Oppland, Norway
Death: 1860
Spouse: Kari Jakobsdtr Marriage: About 1819 Lesja, Oppland, Norway
Erik Gunnarsen
Birth: 1793 Aur-Tande,Tande-Stor-Tande, Lesja, Oppland, Norway
Death: 1860
Spouse: Guri Knutsdtr
Marriage: About 1820 Lesja, Oppland, Norway
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ninakarls
Senior member
Norway
232 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 02:10:36
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Births/christenings are also registered in Digitalarkivet:
1844 17.03 28.01 Marit U K Ungk. og Gaardbruger Gunder Eriks. Frami Pige Ingeborg Gjetvoldsd. Lien Af Knud Br'nden Opg. af Barnets Fader 0 Ministerialbok nr. 8/Ringebu
1846 14.09 18.07 Mali E K Gdm. Gunder Eriks. Frami Hstr. Ingeborg Gjetvaldsd. 0 Ministerialbok nr. 8/Ringebu
1849 18.03 29.01 Elena E K Gmd. Gunder Eriks. Frami Hstr. Ingeborg Gjetvaldsd. 0 Ministerialbok nr. 8/Ringebu
1851 14.09 06.07 Gunild E K Gunder Eriks. Frami Hstr. Ingeborg Gjetvaldsd. 8de Juli af Johnsen Ministerialbok nr. 9/Ringebu
1854 20.03 19.02 Pernille E K Gmd. Gunder Eriks. Frami Hstr. Ingeborg Gjetvoldsd. 0 Ministerialbok nr. 9/Ringebu
1857 15.03 26.02 Edvard E M Gaardm. Gunder Eriks. Frami Hstr. Ingeborg Gjetvaldsd
1860 18.03 28.01 Gedvard E M Gmd. Gunder Eriks. Frami H. Ingeborg Gjetvaldsd. (28de Jan. af Faderen) 0 Ministerialbok nr. 10/Ringebu
1820 17.09 18.08 Ingebor E K Gjetvald Peders. Mali Haldorsd. Lien Ministerialbok nr. 6/Ringebu
1823 06.07 27.12.1822 Sigri E K Gdb. Gjetval Peders. Lien Hstr. Mali Haldorsd. 28.12.1822 Ministerialbok nr. 6/Ringebu
Death/burial: 1825 12.02 01.02 Gjetvald Peders. Lien 34 Aar M (Blev ihjelslagen af en Stok, hvilken han bar paa sine Skuldre og faldt omkuld und.) Ministerialbok nr. 6/Ringebu
Married 1827 08.07 Ungk. Peder Knuds. Romsaas 26 Aar Enke Mali Haldorsd. 28 i Kirken Ministerialbok nr. 6/Ringebu
1801 Census Ringeboe Faavang Soellien
Haldor Olsen Huusbonde 48 Hans 2det hendes 1ste ægteskab Bonde og gaardbeboer M
Sigri Olsdtr Hans kone 36 Hans 2det hendes 1ste ægteskab K
Niels Haldorsen Hans børn 19 Ugift M
Ole Haldorsen Hans børn 13 M
Magrete Haldorsd Hans børn 14 K
Anne Haldorsd Hans børn 8 K
Mali Haldorsd Deres datter 2 K
Magrete Haldorsdtr Mandens moder 90 Gift 2den gang
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nucmedtek
Starting member
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20 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 03:21:34
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Holy Smoke ... I have been thru the digitarkives, the US census records, everything I could think of and never found this info.
I don't know how you do it but I'm glad you do.
Only puzzle for me now is to figure out why the US census lists the wife as Isabelle and the arkive lists her as Ingeborg.
Thank you very much.
I realize that my queries have puzzled some (?) but I sometimes forget you don't know what type of research I have already done.
I only turn to you as a last resort as I hate to waste your time. |
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ninakarls
Senior member
Norway
232 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 16:01:49
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She's not the only person who changed her name ... It can have something to do with how difficult it is to pronounce some Norwegian names by the English speaking population, but it would of course be more common to change to Inga ... like Guri often changed to Julia and Anders to Andrew. I've also heard this practice explained as "new land, new life, new identity, new name" -what do you think? Isabella has a more international flair to it, to us Norwegians at least.
-and I think "Hopkins" is unnecessary rude here. If one doesn't have anything to contribute with or think the requests sound too craving one can always refrain from answering :-)
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nucmedtek
Starting member
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Posted - 04/05/2006 : 17:51:34
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I never thought that Erickson would have been Eriksen so I never even thought to look there. I guess if they changed their last name it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to have changed the first name also.
One more question if I may. Caroline Christenson was only 3 when she emigrated and since I don't know her parents names, where would be a good place to look? I've exhausted the passenger lists and practically scourged the US census records. |
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
1100 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 19:10:04
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Recommend you read the article on this site - Those Norwegian Names.
Ingeborg was commonly shown as Isabel, also Emma. Women also had nicknames, too and Betsy was one that shows up for Ingeborg. |
Edited by - Jo Anne Sadler on 04/05/2006 19:11:01 |
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