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Staci
New on board
USA
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 Posted - 04/05/2006 : 18:01:39
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| Hello, I am just starting out on my family tree quest and have hit a snag. In our family we have the perverbial 'our name was changed at Ellis Island story' which has been debunked in two different ways. My family Kittleson came over between 1860-1862 and according to this site more than likely went through Canada. Plus Ellis Island asserts that they very rarely changed names. So my question is how do I find Kittleson if they were Haave? If there were no records kept in Canada at the time what then. My direct ancestor was Gullick Kittleson. His wife was Sarah and they had a son maybe 4 years old at the time of crossing named Henry. They may have traveled with Gullicks brothers Kittle, Halvor, and Ole and thier family's. I don't know what the name Haave means or where that came from, perhaps a farm name? That and Gullicks father was supposedly named Ole so why wouldn't we now be Oleson's? If anyone can clear any of this up or point me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated. |
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
1100 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 19:08:20
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Recommend you read the excellent article on this site - Those Norwegian Names.
Names were not important or permanent for most people until the early 20th century and names were changed for various reasons and alot of times people went by several names before settling on the last one. Sometimes people got tired of so many, Olsons, Johnsons, Petersons and changed their name to something else. No big reason, really. |
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Staci
New on board
USA
4 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2006 : 21:34:33
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| Thank you for responding. I have promised myself that I would only trace my ancestors back to thier homelands for the time being, but I can't find them in the US. I understand the name changes a bit better now, but I need some help on how to proceed from here. Any advice? |
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Trond
Moderator
Norway
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Posted - 10/05/2006 : 22:47:40
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| There was a Gullick Kittelsen from Kasen, Hitterdal (Heddal), Telemark, leaving Norway 1861. Settler in Normania, Yellow Med. Co., Minnesota 1869. His sons name were Sivert Gullickson, Ihlen, Minnesota (1904). |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2006 : 23:40:27
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Hi,
Kittel was a name that was mostly used in the 3 counties Buskerud (1), Telemark (2) and Aust-Agder (3), so there is a high possibility that your family is from that area.
Haave is a farm on the island Tromøy in Arendal, Aust-Agder. Could that farm be their origin? But Gullik is not a common firstname in Aust-Agder...  In census-1865, the farm is called "Haavet", and located in Østre Moland parish. Nowadays, the place is called Håve.
The reason he is known by the lastname Kittelsen, could be that he took the lastname from his father.
In Bø, Telemark, there are an interesting couple named Ole Kittilsen & Mari Gulliksdatter who have boys named Gullik & Kittel!
Kittil Olesen, birth 03 Jul 1833, Bø, Telemark, Norway
Gullek Olesen, birth 25 OCT 1835, Bø, Telemark, Norway
Do you know when your Gullik was born?
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2006 : 01:13:42
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How old were your 'Gullick' and 'Sarah'? When was 'Henry' born? Didn Henry have one or older sisters??
Gullik Kittilsen Håve (b. 1825?) and his wife Sigrid Høljesdatter (b. 1827?) left from Tinn district of Telemark in 1859 with two young daughters, Gunhild and Ingeborg.
Håve is a farm name and is often spelled as Haave.
Staci, have I seen other queries about this family group or by you on another Internet message board or forum recently? These strike me as very familiar. |
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Dianne
Starting member
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Posted - 18/05/2006 : 04:36:44
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Hi Staci,
The closest I found in the census was 1880--There is a Henry Kittelson, age 24 (born about 1856 in Norway) who is a farmer in De Kalb County, Illinois, township Shabbona. Living wtih him are two brothers, Charles, 19, and Oliver, 16, both born in Illinois, and his mother Sarah, age 47, keeping house. If that is the father probably died before 1880.
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Dianne
Starting member
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Posted - 18/05/2006 : 07:13:25
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Hi Staci, Found anothe possibility in 1900 census, Gullick Kittilson, 77, wife Margit, 67, born Norway, immigrated 1862, living in Normania, Yellow Medicine, Minnesota with son, Ole Gullickson, born 1873, Minnesota.
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Staci
New on board
USA
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Posted - 22/05/2006 : 04:11:30
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Originally posted by Dianne
Hi Staci,
The closest I found in the census was 1880--There is a Henry Kittelson, age 24 (born about 1856 in Norway) who is a farmer in De Kalb County, Illinois, township Shabbona. Living wtih him are two brothers, Charles, 19, and Oliver, 16, both born in Illinois, and his mother Sarah, age 47, keeping house. If that is the father probably died before 1880.
Dianne
Hi, that is my family thank you for checking. I'm thinking Gullick or now Gunlik(aka) died before 1880 because his wife Sarah is listed as a widow in 1880. I beleive they settled right away in Illinois because the younger brothers were born there. Thanks again. Any info helps. Staci |
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Staci
New on board
USA
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Posted - 22/05/2006 : 04:16:12
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quote:
Originally posted by Hopkins
How old were your 'Gullick' and 'Sarah'? When was 'Henry' born? Didn Henry have one or older sisters??
Gullik Kittilsen Håve (b. 1825?) and his wife Sigrid Høljesdatter (b. 1827?) left from Tinn district of Telemark in 1859 with two young daughters, Gunhild and Ingeborg.
Håve is a farm name and is often spelled as Haave.
Staci, have I seen other queries about this family group or by you on another Internet message board or forum recently? These strike me as very familiar.
Hi, Henry Kittleson was born in 1856, so he would be on the passenger lists. Gullick may have been Gunlik according to my great Aunt, I may have queried on a Illinois site. I have received no information like I have on this site though. He's a bit of a mystery. Thank you for your research. Staci |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 22/05/2006 : 20:42:58
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There is book entitled "Norwegians in Illinois" (or something very similar) - check that book! I've found biographies with information about Norwegian origins in that book for some of my own family early arrivals in this country. Check the LDS library catalog - I think they have copied the book to microfilm - place search = Illinois - topic = Minorities
Then check the printed history of DeKalb County - It might have a section about early Norwegian immigrants who settled there. Look for that also through the LDS library catalog - place search = DeKalb (part of) Illinois
The book "Nordmændene i Amerika' by Martin Ulvestad", 1907 was translated and put online for each county it mentioned - here's what they found for DeKalb Co. Translated from 'Nordmændene i Amerika' by Martin Ulvestad, 1907.
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DeKalb County
The first Norwegian here was Lars Risetter from Hardanger, who settled at
Pawpaw. The nearest marketplace at that time was Chicago, about 60 miles
away. They plowed with oxen and raised maize and wheat. Day pay was 50
cents.
The first Norwegians in the area of Sandwich, were H. E. Cook from Brevik
and Peder Pedersen from Stavanger.
Mrs. Sarah Darnell Nordvik, who emigrated on the 'Ægir', the first
sailship to leave Bergen (1st April 1837), also lives here. She was born in
that city the 26th February 1824, and is thus over 80 years old when this is
written.
In this county there are 4 Norwegian churches and 7 congregations, of
which 3 belong to The Norwegian Synod, 2 to The United Church and 2 to The
Methodist Church.
For information of a political nature, se the section 'Norwegian in
public positions in America'
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[One of those mentioned in the above translation is probably a member of my 'extended' family. -- I like HISTORY books. Just the mention of him and a single word of his Norway origins and I know exactly who he probably is and how to find out more. A published history of small US county gave me my first big break in tracking my Norwegian families, a centennial publication by a small rural Lutheran church listed the Norwegian parish information for another of my ancestral lines... Don't skip the history books!!]
Then find someone who will do lookups in the books compiled by Gerhard Naeseth, (title something like) "Norwegian Immigrants to the United States", Volumes One, Two and Three. The family may be mentioned in those books and any small mention of their original parish and/or farm name in Norway is all you might need to get your ancestor research really started. |
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chrischaos
New on board
Canada
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Posted - 01/06/2006 : 00:13:24
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I know that at some point some of the Kittlesons changed their name to kettleson and because of poor spelling some of them were actually kettelson. As far as I know, I am the last generation of Kettlesons until I have children.
It won't help much to search for kettleson tho because I have tried manytimes and I have found nothing. I guess you could try if you wanted to |
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
1100 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2006 : 18:19:39
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 There are 134 Kettlesons listed in the U.S. White Pages.
Doesn't mean they are relatives but there are Kettlesons out there. |
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Robert R Dabolt
New on board
USA
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Posted - 14/03/2010 : 19:41:11
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| I am just starting on a family tree, trying to find information, my grandmothers maiden name was Kittleson they were from the Dakotas any info would be appreciated |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/03/2010 : 20:32:40
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Originally posted by Robert R Dabolt
I am just starting on a family tree, trying to find information, my grandmothers maiden name was Kittleson they were from the Dakotas any info would be appreciated
Hi,
create a new topic in this Forum, where you give all the information you have about your grandmother, like:
what was her first name?
approximate year of birth?
husband's name?
where did they live?
etc.
But as said; Start a new topic, and don't continue in this one, since it's most likely different families.
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KayKittleson
New on board
USA
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Posted - 20/04/2010 : 23:06:56
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Staci,
Not sure if you are still interested, but I think we have the same family. Gullick's son Charles was my great-grandfather. If you are still interesting, send me an email and I will send what I have.
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