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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 12/12/2013 : 11:17:32
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Sunnmmørsdialect (with many variations) spoken on Sunnmøre is quite different from "Bokmål" which I speak.
In Volda they speak a variasion of Nynorsk with its own local varity.
Because of that some words can be difficult or almost impossible to understand for somone who is not from there.
Pehaps if a person from Volda read this the answer is (....Lauden it means.....)
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/12/2013 : 14:14:08
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Kåre, would dialect differences also explain the spelling differences between Strømme and Straume?
(This reminds of one of my favortie stories. Did you know that Norwegians today are fluent in 8 languages? No what are they? Well 7 of them are Norwegian!) |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 12/12/2013 : 16:22:16
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It`s a wealth of dialects in Norway, almost as many as there are people living here 
In Kongsberg municipality (one of 428 munic.) where I live it is as least 5 dialects with small local variations in addition.
Maybe the owners of Strømme after 1900 returned to the origin name Straum that was used in 1540.
Nynorsk "New Norwegian" became official languge 1885 but until 1928 it was called "Landsmål"
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Edited by - Kåarto on 12/12/2013 16:29:45 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/12/2013 : 21:28:15
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| That's very interesting. Thanks! Still no Ananais. |
Edited by - JaneC on 13/12/2013 12:44:33 |
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jungfigh
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Malta
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Posted - 13/12/2013 : 06:36:41
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Originally posted by JaneC
Don't mean to interrupt the important question about the sailor rolls but have a quick question or two for Derek,
Cristian had a son Thomas A. D. Thompson; do you know his full name? Especially what did the "D" stand for? I found a record I didn't keep for "Thomas Alfred D Thompson"...Also might be helpful if the researchers knew what are the full names of all Cristian's children and how does Cristian's name appear on their birth, marriage, and death records - IF you have that info. Not trying to pester you.
In 1883 Ørsta was separated from Volden to form its own municipality (per Wikipedia). Present-day Volden is south of Ørsta. Could Lauden = Sønder, or similar?
Sorry Jane I don't have this information to hand. I only knew the boys as Uncle Tom & Uncle Frank. I will apply for their certs to qualify your question.
I would like to thank-you all for your continuing 'sterling' work over the past days. I've had pesky PC problems...marvellous pieces of technology but Soooo! frustrating when they fail. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/12/2013 : 08:49:39
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Just a thought.
Perhaps D stands for Daniel after Daniel Danielsen Strømme.
Thomas Alfred Daniel Thompson?
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jungfigh
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Posted - 14/12/2013 : 08:33:26
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Just a thought.
Perhaps D stands for Daniel after Daniel Danielsen Strømme.
Thomas Alfred Daniel Thompson?
Kåre
Good morning Kåre,
I have a v-e-r-y distant relative who may just know this...fingers crossed. |
DL. ;o) Malta. G.C. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/12/2013 : 01:03:47
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Just in case Walden doesn't equal Volda, here are the locations of 6 farms called "Valden" in the 1900 Norwegian census. There were no Kristians found among the people on the farms but ....
Valden (2 of them) Strands, Rogaland
Valden 1 in Vanse, Vest Agder
Valden 1 in Dybvaag, Aust Agder
Valden 1 in Dovre, Oppland
Valden 1 in Vaage, Oppland
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
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Posted - 16/12/2013 : 06:24:16
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Thank-you Jackie for your continuing research.
I'm still chasing 'loose' ends this end..! |
DL. ;o) Malta. G.C. |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
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Posted - 17/12/2013 : 10:03:44
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Heartened to read....
Okay, here's what's in my gut. If Walden = Volda parish, then the only man Cristian Tompson could be would be Kristian Elias Danielsen Strømme.
There is no place, no village, no hamlet, no municipality, no region, no parish, no fylke called Walden in Norway today. There are a couple of close equivalents in sound and spelling but nothing exactly like that. Ws are very seldom found as the beginning letter in Norwegian words. They were used more frequently in the past, I think, but gradually the language and tongue have evolved to rely on V to do the same duty as the letters W and V do in English. Yet a handful of Norwegians elsewhere than Norway have given Walden as their place of origin. And no Norwegians in 1865, 1900, 1910 censuses give their origin as Walden. So there is something different going on away from home
Good morning Jackie,
Would you know where (Norwegian address) I could apply for a hard copy of the birth certificate for Kristian Elias Danielsen Strømme.? |
DL. ;o) Malta. G.C. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/12/2013 : 12:39:33
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Derek, use the printing feature on the page of the birth / baptism record below. The PDF 2 page feature will give you the basic information re the dates and names as well as the people who were godparents in large enough size to read:
Source information: Møre og Romsdal county, Volda in Volda, Parish register copy nr. 511C03 (1864-1884), Birth and baptism records 1882, page 298.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=15961&idx_id=15961&uid=ny&idx_side=-269
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/12/2013 : 12:41:45
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The church books for Volda, Møre og Romsdal are kept in The Regional State Archives in Trondheim
Perhaps they aslo have records for seaman/fishermen from Volda.
Worth a try to send them a request.
Kristian Elias Danielsens bap. record is online, see #49
He must have left Norway between Oct. 9. 1898 when he was confirmated #39 and 1900
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jungfigh
Senior member
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Posted - 17/12/2013 : 17:18:25
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Derek, use the printing feature on the page of the birth / baptism record below. The PDF 2 page feature will give you the basic information re the dates and names as well as the people who were godparents in large enough size to read:
Source information: Møre og Romsdal county, Volda in Volda, Parish register copy nr. 511C03 (1864-1884), Birth and baptism records 1882, page 298.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=15961&idx_id=15961&uid=ny&idx_side=-269
Thank-you Jackie, you too Kåre. |
DL. ;o) Malta. G.C. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 18/12/2013 : 22:15:16
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A short update regarding the probate record for Daniel Johannes Danielssen Strømme.
I also sent a new request later for a copy of the death protocol for his first wife. The reply on that was that it only said that Johanne Gurine left 8 children behind, of which 7 were minors. No name, age or residence for them. They could not find any probate register for her between 1900-1912.
The papers from 1942 (Daniels death) will be sent by snail mail, and I will probably not receive it before I leave for xmas vacation. A short summary was that 5 children were listed as heirs after Daniel, and Kristian was not among those 5. I did not receive any other details in the email, so we'll have to wait and see what it says. |
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jungfigh
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Posted - 19/12/2013 : 05:55:46
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Thank-you for your continuing research Jan Peter.
I am still awaiting inquiries from the Royal Marine Museum, Portsmouth, for information on Private Royal Mariner (Royal Marine) Donald Thompson, born Scotland, aged 22, recorded in the 1871 UK census. Based at Marine Barracks, Deal, Kent .
I keep being drawn back to this man as being Cristian's father. Sometimes 'gut' feelings are real..! |
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