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jungfigh
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Malta
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 Posted - 31/01/2014 : 06:13:34
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| Hopefully a glimmer at the end of this l-o-n-g tunnel Jane |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2014 : 11:47:43
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| Hopefully the query regarding 1st. World War British Soldiers Wills can be cleared up too! |
DL. ;o) Malta. G.C. |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2014 : 11:41:37
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Through the grapevine an old school chum of mine from Ramsgate has been in touch.
He has now retired as being the Cox'n of Ramgate Lifeboat, after many years. He has offered his services to help trace down any relevant information he can find with regard Cristian.
After a life-time on the sea at Ramsgate and the Kentish coast his assistance and contacts may prove invaluable. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2014 : 23:33:01
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Originally posted by JaneC
Name: Peder Strømme
Death Date: 15 Jun 1967
Burial Date: 20 Jun 1967
Burial Place: Ålesund, "Møre og Romsdal", Norway
Age: 81
Birth Date: 10 Oct 1885
http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/index.php
from the Volda-Soga:
Peder Matias Strømme, b. 10 Oct 1885, d. ?, married to Petra Hellandshamn, lived at Ålesund.
I have located a son of Peder and Petra, probably living as of today, 93 y.o. Thus; a male lineage (DNA-wise) after Daniel Straume. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2014 : 23:43:42
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2014 : 23:59:24
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WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My goodness, he might even remember stories of Kristian.  |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2014 : 06:10:11
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Originally posted by jwiborg
quote:
Originally posted by JaneC
Name: Peder Strømme
Death Date: 15 Jun 1967
Burial Date: 20 Jun 1967
Burial Place: Ålesund, "Møre og Romsdal", Norway
Age: 81
Birth Date: 10 Oct 1885
http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/index.php
from the Volda-Soga:
Peder Matias Strømme, b. 10 Oct 1885, d. ?, married to Petra Hellandshamn, lived at Ålesund.
I have located a son of Peder and Petra, probably living as of today, 93 y.o. Thus; a male lineage (DNA-wise) after Daniel Straume.
 Excellent news Jan Peter...You're a star
Suggestions please: How should I, (or would it be best left to you for continuity purposes)..proceed..? |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2014 : 09:18:10
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Hi,
thanks.
It would be of great news if he is alive, and by good health. I am in contact with a descendant of another line after Daniel Strømme, and he actually thought this person was deceased, but couldn't tell for sure. They had never had any contact. I've found a phoneno. for him, so I've asked him if he could give him a call. We will try to sort this out as soon as possible.
From your side; I guess you would be interested in a DNA test?
Maybe start a process of which company to use, the costs and practical matters towards them, how to proceed, what they need (hair or saliva) etc..? |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2014 : 09:35:59
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As it stands Jan Peter I would be willing to pay the bill. The only requirements needed from the Norwegian connections would be a mouth swab and a head hair (if possible). I believe these simple kits, swab and container and plastic bag for hair sample are available almost everywhere. They can then be submitted to me or cousin Frank in England for submission, with Frank's (he would be the better match than me, him being the male line) to the Lab. there.
Once all is collated I will put everything together and post it on. |
DL. ;o) Malta. G.C. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2014 : 12:42:24
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I believe many/most companies have their own set of "equipment" to be used for such sample-collection, and which are included in the total prize?
Could you do some investigation around that, to verify how it shall be done for the Company of your choice?
We must avoid getting into a situation where they dont accept the received samples. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2014 : 15:18:53
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| If for some reason, such as death or lack of desire to do the test, there is also a male2male2male etc descendant from Daniel Danielson's brother Sivert Danielson who might be interested in helping. |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2014 : 15:31:11
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Yes Jan Peter.
I fully accept what you say.
Frank and I have 'done' investigations. Some are as clear as mud.
I also await news from the Metropolitan Police, London who they have on their accredited Laboratories list for DNA purposes now that the MetPol. Forensic service has been disbanded...such a shame., It was a World class service. I suppose austerity affected us all.
I'm sure we'll make the right decision...Just to get this far with regard Cristian is fantastic...so many 'if only's'.
As a child I never questioned about Cristian. Cousin Frank mentioned he can remember his Father saying that Cristian whacked him (Frank's father) with the blade of a knife for taking bread from the dining table without asking permission.
I never had the fore-sight to ask my Mother any memories of her Father. If only..!
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2014 : 15:33:23
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Originally posted by jkmarler
If for some reason, such as death or lack of desire to do the test, there is also a male2male2male etc descendant from Daniel Danielson's brother Sivert Danielson who might be interested in helping.
Thank-you Jackie.
I only picked up your post after replying to Jan Peter.
A great boon. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2014 : 20:20:48
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Hi, may I weigh in? I'm not sure there is any particular advantage to using a DNA testing service that is headquartered in England and/or a specialized police lab. To the contrary, I would consider those characteristics disadvantages. Instead I'd look for a very public and worldwide service. Your results will be compared (or can be) with other registrants at the same company, and who knows, a surprise match could come up, now or in the future. Why limit that possibility by using a closed or little known lab? Surprise matches are most likely to come from Norway or America.
One company that is often recommend is FTDNA. Other top services include AncestryDNA and 23andme. I don't know of Norwegian DNA testing services.
Consider ordering a Y-DNA testing kit asap. Purchase a kit to test for 37 or 67 markers. If you choose 37 (less expensive) the results can be upgraded later, if need be.
The previous sale (reduced price) at FTDNA seems to have evaporated but another may come up. FTDNA website:
http://www.familytreedna.com/y-dna-compare.aspx
On this link, FTDNA describes its test kit:
http://www.familytreedna.com/test-instructions.aspx
Individuals must use this specific kit for this company - and also the kit should be returned directly to the lab (not through a third party). FTDNA accepts payment from a third party, and the people being tested can give the third party access to the results. Payment must be received before the test is run.
Frequently Asked Questions here:
http://www.familytreedna.com/faq/default.aspx
Too bad you can't test Derek, but thank goodness for Frank.
Hope this helps. |
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NancyB
Medium member
USA
104 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2014 : 23:35:38
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Originally posted by JaneC
One company that is often recommend is FTDNA. Other top services include AncestryDNA and 23andme. I don't know of Norwegian DNA testing services.
Consider ordering a Y-DNA testing kit asap. Purchase a kit to test for 37 or 67 markers. If you choose 37 (less expensive) the results can be upgraded later, if need be. FTDNA says this about the 37 marker test: "37-marker matches are highly likely to be related within the past 8 generations." Should work for you.
I haven't following this entire thread, but would like to give a shout out for FTDNA. They have the largest database of the genetic genealogy companies. I used them recently to successfully find biological family for an adoptee who has been searching 35+ years. We started with the 37-marker Y-DNA. (Don't do anything less!) Upgraded to 67 markers and also did the autosomal "Family Finder." All can be done from one test sample. The autosomal will give you a predicted relationship (usually a range) between you and your matches.
We have since also tested with 23andMe (autosomal--23andMe does NOT offer the same kind of Y-DNA test as FTDNA). I much prefer FTDNA. |
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