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Andreas Wangen
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Norway
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Posted - 27/01/2007 :  08:49:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ingebor born 2nd Feb 1846, died 22nd sept 1909. DEmigrated to America in 1866.Married to Ole Jerdie who was born 31st March 1852 and died 4th July 1910. Both born in Norway. In 1880 they were setteld in Cambridge, Dane, Wisconsin.. Ole
emigrated in 1860. I think they married in 1874. My question is: What was Ingebor's surname (familyname) and from what part of Norway did she com???
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Andreas Wangen

A. Wangen

Lester Hanson
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USA
567 Posts

Posted - 28/01/2007 :  02:29:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My limited resources have not found any information about Ingebor, but I have found census data for their son Elmer. He can be found in the 1900,1910, 1920 and 1930 census. Do you need any heritage info about Elmer and his wife Ellen and their children Agnes and Kenneth?

Les
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Andreas Wangen
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Norway
8 Posts

Posted - 28/01/2007 :  15:47:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Lester for you answerd.
I have the information about Elmer and Ellen and their children and grandchildren. In March we are going to wisit one of their
grandchild in Seattle. Therefore I hoped to find the familyname
of Ingebor and her roots in Norway till then.

Best wishes from
Andreas Wangen

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kaare n
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Norway
114 Posts

Posted - 28/01/2007 :  17:14:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hei Anders
Do you have anything more, name on her mother, father, sisters or brothers? Do you have some suspicion from where in Norway? Any farm names, any thing.

Kåre in Norway
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Andreas Wangen
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Norway
8 Posts

Posted - 28/01/2007 :  17:51:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Kaare
That is my problem, I only know her christen name Ingeborn nothing about her family. I know that she emigrated in 1866 then she was 20 yaer and she married Ole Jerdie around 1874 because Elmer was born in 1875. My gues is that they married in Cambridge, Dane, Wisconsin. Sorry, but that is all I know about Ingebor.
Med hilsen
Andreas W.

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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
1100 Posts

Posted - 28/01/2007 :  23:06:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They should be in this 1852-1907 Wisconsin vital records database but Ole was probably not going by Jerdie/Jerdee at the time of their marriage but by his patronomyic which began with a K according to the 1900 and 1910 census in Dane County under the name Jerdee. He died right after the 1910 census in Madison where he was living with his daughter Ida and another daughter and her husband, George Hughes:

http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/vitalrecords/

Since you know Ingebor's exact death date has anyone secured her death certificate and obituary? The Dane County Historical Society is very active, they may be able to help you.

http://www.rootsweb.com/~widane/lookup.html

Someone has Ole Jerdee in a Rootsweb.com family tree online but does not have anything other than census information.

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=felser&id=I26367

We do not have all the great information online here that you have in Norway.
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Lester Hanson
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USA
567 Posts

Posted - 29/01/2007 :  02:01:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a Ole K Gerde marriage record for 07 Jan. 1873, available from Dane County, Wisconsin. Volume 03, page 0073. Someone may be able to look this up for you.
Digitalarkivet has listings for Gjærde. Seems like a natural spelling for Jerdie. Jerdie does not seem to be a common name for Norway.

Les
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kaare n
Medium member

Norway
114 Posts

Posted - 29/01/2007 :  18:13:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just the census 1880
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Ole JERDIE Self M Male W 28 NOR Works On Farm NOR NOR
Ingebor JERDIE Wife M Female W 30 NOR Keeps House NOR NOR
Elmer JERDIE Son S Male W 5 WI NOR NOR
Anna J. JERDIE Dau S Female W 2 WI NOR NOR
JERDIE Dau S Female W 1M WI NOR NOR
Martha DAVIS Other S Female W 40 NOR House Work NOR NOR


Source Information: Census Place Cambridge, Dane, Wisconsin
Family History Library Film 1255421
NA Film Number T9-1421
Page Number 278B
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
1100 Posts

Posted - 29/01/2007 :  19:44:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's too bad the marriage record Lester found did not have a spouse link but that sure seems like it is the right Ole.

In the 1900 census, they were living in Deerfield, Dane County, WI.

You might want to email the Deerfield Public Library to see if they have an obituary resource, you have the death dates. Even though Ole most likely died in Madison, he may have had a local Deerfield obit. The smaller the town the more likely a person would have an obituary:

http://www.scls.lib.wi.us/deerfield/

You can also check with the main Madison Public Library, just go on Google for the link.
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Lester Hanson
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USA
567 Posts

Posted - 29/01/2007 :  21:49:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it possible Ole used the farm name Gjærde when he immigrated, and dropped his patronym name which starts with K. I don't know how to use Digitalarkivet good enought to check this out. Seems like it would help, if we knew where Ole came from in Norway.

Les
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Andreas Wangen
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Norway
8 Posts

Posted - 29/01/2007 :  23:12:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Lester and the other clever people
I think, with good help, we have found Ingebor's roots in Norway.
It looks like that she is comming from Voss and the name is Ingebor Endresdatter, but in Amarica she call herself
Ingeborg Andersen. "So easy to understand".
That maks this hobby so fasineighting (or what you call it?)
Andreas W

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kaare n
Medium member

Norway
114 Posts

Posted - 29/01/2007 :  23:20:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The only man I found in census 1665
First mane Ole. Surname K ?????. Farm Gj????? born 1852

Information on domicile
Previous domicile Next domicile
Data on domicile:
Census year: 1865
Municipality: Strandebarm
Municipality number: 1226
Name of domicile: Gjerde indre
Number of persons in this domicile: 3
Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Place of birth Ethnicity
Knudt Samsonsen hf ug Gaardbruger Selveier 1798 Strandebarms
Beritha Iversdatter ug Bestyrer Husvæsenet 1826 Voss
Ole Knudtsen Forstersøn ug 1852 Strandebarms

Norwegian Historical Data Centre (NHDC)
The Faculty of Social Sciences, University of Tromsø N-9037 Tromsø, NORWAY
Updated: November 10th 2004

Link
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1226&kenr=002&bnr=0061&lnr=00


Kåre
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Lester Hanson
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USA
567 Posts

Posted - 30/01/2007 :  05:16:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kåre, this would agree with the 1910 USA Census, where Ole K has emigrated in 1868, instead of 1860 as referenced by A. Wangen. And the Gjerde farm name is a perfect match for his last name, as written in the USA.

Les
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Andreas Wangen
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Norway
8 Posts

Posted - 30/01/2007 :  10:37:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kåre and Lester. Yes I think it is the same Ole, because his mother Anna Trondsdatter Grong died i 1853 and his father Knut
Ivarson commited suicide in 1858 and they lived at that time in Gjerde, Strandebarm. His brother andsisters was to young to take care.
I have got this message from some other people. Thanks again, I now think I am on the "right train".
Andreas W.

A. Wangen
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atle-unnimarie
Junior member

USA
30 Posts

Posted - 25/12/2007 :  09:47:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Andreas, Looks like you finalized your last discussion. Hope you got everything you wanted. Let me now go a step away.to a potential new issue. This may be stretching it as I see no common thread except for your farm name.

I don't know how many V/W angen farms are in Norway, but I wonder if you are of Aurland in S&F. This is my root area. Various farms there including Vangen, Vinjum, As, Kvam, Onstad, Hoidal, Gjerlov etc. Who knows? We could have some common blood!

What say you?
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