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Cyn
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Posted - 29/03/2007 : 02:53:12
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Grandfather, Walter Moe born in 1885 in Kragho, Norway. That is what is listed on my father's U.S birth certificate but I can't seem to locate the town or anything about him. My grandfather was only 7 years old when he came to America. Thanks for any help. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/03/2007 : 08:59:43
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Kragerø must be the town, you will find it on the west side of the outer Oslo fjord. "Moe" is most likely the farm or place his parents came from - Walter is not a common name in the area of Kragerø in the 1880's - maybe you can find the name of his parents? |
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Edited by - eibache on 29/03/2007 09:08:11 |
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Cyn
Starting member
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Posted - 29/03/2007 : 16:44:17
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I believe when Walter came to America his name was Thorwald and his older brother was Johan Peder. Their names became Walter and John. Also, in some of my investigations I found the name Tallaksen to the boys father's name - David Tallaksen Moe. David came to Boston from Norway maybe as early as 1885. His wife, Carina (maybe Peders for a maiden name, but not sure) came later, possibly in 1893, with the 2 boys - both under 12 years. David went on to the state of Washington - where his brother lived. He died there in March of 1928. His wife and now 6 children stayed on in the Boson area. I have never been able to confirm the family in Norway. I have absolutely no info on Carina Moe. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 29/03/2007 : 17:04:25
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Sailor David Tallaksen (34) from Kragerø, Telemark, emigrated to Boston on a prepaid ticket on 23-Apr-1886
He is christened about 21 NOV 1852 in Bamble, Telemark Parents: Tallak Davidsen & Johanne Thorsdr Link
Working as a servant in census-1865
Karine Tallaksen emigrated on 01-Sep-1892, together with children Johan Tallaksen (11) and Thorvald Tallaksen (8) One Anna Pedersen (30) is also listed together with them. Link
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Edited by - jwiborg on 29/03/2007 17:17:39 |
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Cyn
Starting member
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Posted - 29/03/2007 : 17:27:30
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All the old folks have died and I do not know where to go to get more info. My David was married and had at least 2 children when he came to America. The wife and 2 children came later and they had 4 more children in America. They went by the name Moe and only recently have I found Tallaksen in some records. I believe I found David's wife, Carina, coming into New York Ellis Island. Well, I found a Carina, 33, with 2 sons, Johan Peder and Thorwald coming into Ellis Island in Sept 1892. The ages and first names fit but the last name was Tallaksen. I hope I am on the right track. Does any of this make sense??? Thanks for your help |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/03/2007 : 17:40:55
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Hi, Einar was right. Torvald was born on farm Raantangen in local parish Sannidal in Kragerø main parish Oct. 14.1885, bap. nov. 28. Parents Skipper/Ship master (in America) David Tallaksen born 1852 and Svanhild Karine Pedersdatter b. 1858. Godparents: Anna Pedersdatter (aunt), Tallak Davidsen (Grandfather), Tomas Tellefsen and Anton Elllefsen. http://arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4813&idx_id=4813&uid=ny&idx_side=-22.
In 1865 David Tallaksen worked as a young servant on farm Rørholt in Bamle municipality:http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=27&filnamn=f60814&gardpostnr=339&personpostnr=1825&merk=1825#ovre.
In 1901 his grandfather and Godfather Tallak Davidsen b. 1819 and grandmother Johanne Torsdatter b. 1825 both lived on farm Raantangen and their daughter e/widow Inger Sofie Stenbom b.1868, proff. "syning af kjoler" sewing dresses and her 3 children Anna b 1888, in Bamle, Alfred b. 1890 and Carl Gustav b. 1893, both b. in Boston USA. http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=15&filnamn=f00816&gardpostnr=12&merk=12#ovre In 1865 Tallak and his wife Johanne lived on farm Helle in Sannidal with three of Thorvalds siblings, Thor age 18, Amund age 11, Martin age 6 and Marie age 3. Kåre |
Edited by - Kåarto on 29/03/2007 18:05:23 |
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Cyn
Starting member
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Posted - 29/03/2007 : 18:46:23
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Thank you everyone. What a load of info. Now, can anyone explain how the name got to be Moe? All the first names and ages match but they always used Moe as a last name in America. Thanks for all your help. |
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
1100 Posts |
Posted - 29/03/2007 : 18:46:29
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I recommend you read the article on this site, Those Norwegian Names.
David Tallaksen arrived at the Port of Boston on May 7, 1886 from Queenstown, Ireland & Liverpool aboard the SS Pavonia.
He was in steerage, 1 piece of baggage, laborer, intended residence, Massachusetts for a protracted stay.
He would have been processed for immigration aboard ship. There is information and a picture of the Pavonia on this site. |
Edited by - Jo Anne Sadler on 29/03/2007 18:47:27 |
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Lester Hanson
Advanced member
USA
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Posted - 29/03/2007 : 18:48:59
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People of interest can be found in the 1910 Census for Massachusetts, Norfolk County, village of Weymouth.
Lavina(Carina) Moe, Head of Household, born 1859, Norway,age 51, immigrated 1893, naturalized, married 29 years, had 7 children, 5 living. Children: Walter, age 23 Marie J. age 16 Olga age14 Lillian age 11 Arthur F. age 7
No husband.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Cyn
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 29/03/2007 : 20:19:41
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Thank you. I have read the Heritage article. I am a bit confused but trying to work thru this. Now Walter married a Norwegian girl from Oslo. Her name was Christianna Torrison and she had a brother , Alfred Torrison and a sister (do not know her name). They were born in the late 1880 and came to Boston in 1912. Christianna may have been married and widowed in Oslo and may have left a sick child behind with her father. The child's name may have been Nina. Christianna died of tuberculosus in 1929 and Walter died from heart attack in 1928 leaving behind 8 little kids in Weymouth, MA. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/03/2007 : 22:38:37
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Thor Olsen moe is found in the 1801 census at the farm Langesund (now a town) with his first wife Maren Cathrine Kiøstelsdatter. He is a mate and boatswain. Maria Jansdatter was his second wife, they married October 17 1823 and she came from the farm Masterød and were a widow 32 years old.
When Tallak was baptized his mother is recorded as "kone" (wife) Sophie Levordsdatter.
The farms from the parish records are written as Moeseiet and Gongeseiet - i.e. cotters farms under the farms Moe and Gonge. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 30/03/2007 : 10:39:55
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Thanks Einar, Thor Olsen was born Nov./ Novembris 1772, right side p. 514: Ole Olsen Moe. Langesund: and Kari Thorsdatter S/Son Døbt/Bap: Thor. Godparents: Peder Thorsen, Helvig Pedersdatter, Inger Olsdatter Moe, Anders Thorsen Wingerei, Christen Thorsen (Moe b. a.1757) and Anders Jacobsen Rogn. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7822&idx_id=7822&uid=ny&uid=ny&idx_side=-262
Possible relatives living in Norway. Mail posted to Grenland Ættehistoriske Forening in Norwegian, Subject Raantangen, and asked if someone could help. http://www.grenlandslekt.no/phorum-3.3.2c/list.php?f=1 Enter link http://kart.finn.no/ Write Sannidal kirke or Langesund and press søk,remove the mark "fjern merkelapp fra kartet", enter satelitt and watch the area and the church.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 30/03/2007 12:38:18 |
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Cyn
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Posted - 30/03/2007 : 14:54:22
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This is great information. Thank you everyone. This a a marvelous web site. You people are truly wonderful. Thanks again. The satellite pictures were great and the instruction perfect. |
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Cyn
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Posted - 30/03/2007 : 17:44:56
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Following up on great grandfather David Tallaksen Moe born about 1852 in Kragerø, Norway. I am hoping someone can find out who his siblings were. David went to visit a brother in the state of Washington. David died there but nothing is know of the brother he visited or the brother's family. David parents were Tallak Davidsen & Johanne Thorsdr and maybe from Bamble, Telemark. Thanks for bearing with me. |
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Jo Anne Sadler
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