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tlwright65
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 Posted - 05/04/2007 : 04:40:51
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She was born Jan 1860, died 8 Apr 1952 in Hopkins, MN. I was going on the possibility that her name was actually Dina M Pedersdatter, but am not sure. I found one born in Vestre Toten on 31 Jan 1860, but, like I said, I'm not sure that's her. She emigrated about 1875, which I couldn't find any records. She married my ancestor Elias Andreassen Løberg.
I'd appreciate any help!
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jwiborg
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Posted - 05/04/2007 : 11:08:20
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Two sisters, Amalie Pedersdatter Hage (21) and Dina Margrete Pedersdatter Hage (11) from Jevnaker, Oppland, went to Rushford Mn on Aug 07 1874. Link
A possibility?
The Dina you refer to from Vestre Toten had a 7 year older sister named Amalie... 
Amalia Pedersdr, christened 12 JUN 1853, Vestre Toten, Oppland
Dina Margrethe Pedersdr, christened 13 MAY 1860, Vestre Toten, Oppland
Parents: Peder Andersen & Ingeborg Maria Poulsdr
Amalies age fits, but Dina should have been 14, not 11 in the emigrant records..., could be a transcription error...
Census-1865
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tlwright65
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Posted - 05/04/2007 : 17:19:20
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| Thanks, Jan Peter! Now that gives me 2 Dina's to look at. I did find a listing for Peder Andersen and Ingeborg Poulsdtr going to America on 6 Sep 1873 on the ship Peter Jebsen, but Dina was't on it. Peder Pedersen (son) was along with Karoline (daughter) and another daughter that was listed as age 26 (none of them were that age in 1873). It looks like Hella M Pederson in the listing. I'll have to investigate this further. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 05/04/2007 : 19:09:05
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Hi,
I quite sure this is the Dina you're looking for. And it's not "two Dina's"..., the girl emigrating to Rushford Mn on Aug 07 1874 must be the daughter of Peder Andersen and Ingeborg Maria Poulsdr.
Dina and her sister Amalie emigrated to Rushford on a prepaid ticket 1 year after her parents and two siblings emigrated.
Maybe Peder didn't have enough money to pay for the whole family? Maybe Amalie and Dina had to stay with an uncle or aunt in Jevnaker for a year, until Peder had saved up enough money to pay for their tickets?
The Peder Andersen you refer to are from Vestre Toten, Oppland, and emigrated to Rusford, Mn. on Aug. 15 1873 together with wife and two children:
Peder Andersen (53)
Ingeborg Paulsdatter (46)
Hella Mathilde (26)
Caroline Pedersdatter (9)
Their daughters Hella Mathilia Pedersdr is christened on 17 JAN 1847, Vestre Toten, Oppland and Karoline Pedersdr is christened 30 OCT 1864, Vestre Toten, Oppland
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tlwright65
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Posted - 05/04/2007 : 19:32:59
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| So, the Dina Pedersdatter that I found was probably the right one, then! That's awesome! Thanks, Jan Peter. I didn't know there was another sister, so cool!! I appreciate your help. :) |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 06/04/2007 : 00:27:15
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Here is Dina with sister Caroline and father and widower Peter in Rushford, Fillmore, Mn in census-1880. Peter has kept his occupation as a shoemaker (same as census-1865 for Vestre Toten, Oppland)
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tlwright65
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Posted - 06/04/2007 : 00:31:45
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| Thanks, Jan Peter!! You are awesome!! |
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eibache
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Posted - 06/04/2007 : 07:12:14
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Dina and Karolines birth and christening can be confirmed in the scanned churchbooks for Vestre Toten in Opland.
Dina (120) 1856-1861 and Karoline (200) 1862-69. |
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tlwright65
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Posted - 06/04/2007 : 17:12:30
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| Yes, thank you, Eibache! Dina, Karoline and Peder's were the only ones I could find. |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 06/04/2007 : 19:22:56
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Hi all
The 1801 cencus for Vestre Toten is "hidden" in Østre Toten, under common name Toten.
Is Røsedalen 1865 the same as Røse in the 1801 cencus?
If, 1801 cencus, can Ingeborg Maria´s father be Paul Hansen age 19 on Røse Øvre/Upper Røse living with his brother Niels, age 34 (Dragoner- Horseman soldier in Opplandske Dragonregiment esatblished 1784) and their father, free farmer and widower Hans Nielsen age 78, married 2 times?
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=27&filnamn=f10528&gardpostnr=201&merk=201#ovre
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tlwright65
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Posted - 06/04/2007 : 19:37:57
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| Since I can't find anything like parent's names for Peder Anderssen and Ingeborg Poulsdatter, I can't go any further back then them. I looked in the 1801 census for anyone with those surnames, but I just can't be sure which ones are the correct ones!! It pretty much could be anyone! If the Vestre Toten records went further back, I could find them....Thank you for looking into this, Kåre. Until more records are available, I guess we won't know for sure. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 06/04/2007 : 19:45:36
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Hi again... What about this one?
Ingeborg Maria, christened 19 MAR 1826, Vestre Toten, Oppland
Parents: Poul Evensen & Mari Olsdr
Pouel Evensen & Mari Olsdr
Marriage: 30 APR 1819, Østre Toten, Oppland
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jwiborg
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Posted - 06/04/2007 : 19:50:17
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And the proof... 
Peder Andersen (27) & Ingeborg Maria Poulsdr (21)
Marriage: 13 NOV 1846, Vestre Toten, Oppland
His father: Anders Pedersen
Her father: Poul Evensen
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jwiborg
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Posted - 06/04/2007 : 20:03:56
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It's not that easy to find Peder's parents... there are actually 4 Peder Andersen's with father Anders Pedersen born around 1819-1820 in Toten!
Peder Andersen, chr 10 JAN 1819, Østre Toten, Oppland. Parents: Anders Pedersen & Margrete Haralsdr
Peder Andersen, chr 05 SEP 1819, Østre Toten, Oppland. Parents: Anders Pedersen & Hellena Xstiansdr
Peder Andersen, chr 02 SEP 1820, Østre Toten, Oppland. Parents: Anders Pedersen & Olava Elisabet Olsdr
Peder Andersen, chr 22 OCT 1820, Østre Toten, Oppland. Parents: Anders Pedersen & Marthe Svendsdr
Your Peder looks to be born in 1819, so there is a big chance that either Margrete or Hellena are his mother... Shall we put $50,- on Hellena Xstiansdr...?
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tlwright65
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Posted - 06/04/2007 : 20:09:06
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You are unbelievable, Jan Peter.....obviously in a great way!! I'm on this site so much, sometimes I forget about FamilySearch. Ok! I'll write these down!! Thank you : )
You are a betting man, huh? Well, I like betting, but since I'm more unsure about this, I won't see it!! I'll keep note of the 2 that show the 1819 birthdate and see what I can find!! |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 06/04/2007 : 20:29:09
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Well, reason being that it looks like Margrete Haraldsdr gave birth to her Anders in 1818, since he is christened on January 10th..., that would make Hellena's boy the only Anders Pedersen born in 1819...
But then again, Dina Margrethe could have been named after her (paternal) grandmother Margrete Haraldsdr...
But none of the other of Peder and Ingeborg Marie's children looks to be named after their grandparents, so why would Dina be named after one...?
Hella Mathilia Pedersdr, christened 17 JAN 1847, Vestre Toten, Oppland
Petronille Pedersdr, christened 11 NOV 1849, Vestre Toten, Oppland
Amalia Pedersdr, christened 12 JUN 1853, Vestre Toten, Oppland
Peder Anthon Pedersen, christened 20 APR 1856, Vestre Toten, Oppland
Dina Margrethe Pedersdr, christened 13 MAY 1860, Vestre Toten, Oppland
Karoline Pedersdr, christened 30 OCT 1864, Vestre Toten, Oppland
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