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jkmarler
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 Posted - 18/11/2018 : 18:54:58
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Here is an Olson Duelien arriving in US:
Name Johannes Olsen Duelien
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 23 Jun 1907
Event Place Ellis Island, New York City, New York, United States
Residence Place Leidskogen, Norway
Gender Male
Age 33
Marital Status Married
Nationality Norway, Scandinavian
Birth Year 1874
Departure Port Liverpool
Ship Name Celtic
Arrival Contact Name Anton Olsen Bakken
Arrival Contact Name Relationship Brother
Page Number 93
Affiliate Line Number 0008
Citing this Record
"New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JXV9-3ZR : 30 January 2018), Johannes Olsen Duelien, 1907.
Going to North Dakota:
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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9301 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2018 : 19:47:01
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And his emigration record
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/11/2018 : 19:49:54
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Digging further I find
Eidskog Bygdebok Volume 3
MAIN FARMS:with subfarms:
NORDRE m. MELLOM og SØNDRE PRAMHUS: "Nordgarn"/Nord-Pramhus, "Mellagarn", "Søgarn" Stomperuddelen, "Søgarn" Johnsen, Langrekken, Julin, Eriksen, Lomtjernbakken, Åsen, Fagernes, Pramhusbakken, Solbakken, Øverby, Åklangenga, Fiskerud, Korskjølen, Duelia,
From Family Search
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volsen
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Posted - 27/11/2018 : 05:08:20
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Johannes is my great grandfather. I guess I hadn't look as this record close enough before. I was told his brother in New sponsored him to come to America. I suspected it was Anton.
https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FS1NorwayCensus&h=219982&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=60092&requr=11610847084314624&ur=0
A Anna Antonsdt travel with my great grandmother Karen to America so thought she had to be his daughter. However, I could find no record of him marrying or coming to America or any record of the being in America
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https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=nypl&h=4036822755&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=60901
I speculated that this might be her. Her maiden name is Olsen.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQ5L-VNJ
But research has made me question that.
At least I know it was Anton.
Thank you all so much. I can wait check out resources for farm locations
I greatly appreciate it.
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Here is an Olson Duelien arriving in US:
Name Johannes Olsen Duelien
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 23 Jun 1907
Event Place Ellis Island, New York City, New York, United States
Residence Place Leidskogen, Norway
Gender Male
Age 33
Marital Status Married
Nationality Norway, Scandinavian
Birth Year 1874
Departure Port Liverpool
Ship Name Celtic
Arrival Contact Name Anton Olsen Bakken
Arrival Contact Name Relationship Brother
Page Number 93
Affiliate Line Number 0008
Citing this Record
"New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JXV9-3ZR : 30 January 2018), Johannes Olsen Duelien, 1907.
Going to North Dakota:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000001094038
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jkmarler
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/11/2018 : 00:29:28
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I noticed that when the first daughter Annette Karoline of Johannes and Karen was born that he used the name Johannes Olsen Duelien and the column for birth place lists Duelien under Pramhus. Annette was born in 1903 and baptized in 1904.
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Same address for second child Kristian.
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Same for son Iver Alfred
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For their marriage June 7, 1903, he is listed as a Husmann from Eidskogen and she is listed as from Gjermshusberget, Brandvold
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volsen
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Posted - 28/11/2018 : 05:32:15
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Thank you I never noticed that. So you were right earlier it is part of Pramhus.
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Originally posted by lyndal40
I noticed that when the first daughter Annette Karoline of Johannes and Karen was born that he used the name Johannes Olsen Duelien and the column for birth place lists Duelien under Pramhus. Annette was born in 1903 and baptized in 1904.
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Same address for second child Kristian.
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Same for son Iver Alfred
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For their marriage June 7, 1903, he is listed as a Husmann from Eidskogen and she is listed as from Gjermshusberget, Brandvold
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volsen
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/12/2018 : 22:12:03
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Well you search is a little confusing so perhaps I should start with some information on the one known person, Johannes Olsen. I assume that this is his baptism record.
Johannes Olsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Johannes Olsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 17 nov 1874
Baptism Date: 7 mar 1875
Baptism Place: Brandvold, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Ole Andersen
Mother: Karen Johannesdr
FHL Film Number: 307244
Reference ID: 2:ZKF02T
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It would appear that Ole Andersen was a widower but not yet married to Karen Johnanesdatter at the baptism of son Johannes.
Ole and Karen married in Nov of 1875
Ole Andersen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Ole Andersen
Gender: Male
Age: 34
Birth Date: 1841
Marriage Date: 7 nov 1875
Marriage Place: Brandvold, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Anders Johansen
Spouse: Karen Johannesdr
FHL Film Number: 307244
Reference ID:
If I am following the family corrrectly, Johanes and Anton would be step siblings with a different mother
Anton Olsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Anton Olsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 25 jul 1866
Baptism Date: 23 des 1866 (23 Dec 1866)
Baptism Place: Brandvold, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Ole Andersen
Mother: Eli Olsdr
FHL Film Number: 307244
Reference ID: 2:ZKCZDC
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Ole Andersen and Eli Olsdatter were not yet married for the 1865 Census but both were living on Bukkebakken. That may be the origin of the Bakken name.
1865
Here is the confirmation record for Anton Olsen Bukkebakken
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 02/12/2018 : 02:01:01
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One of the questions you had was on this Anton Olsen Bakke and his marriage in Oslo.
Anton Olsen Bakke
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Anton Olsen Bakke
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 30
Birth Date: 1861
Marriage Date: 30 aug 1891
Marriage Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Father: Ole Qistensen
Spouse: Maren Kristiansen
FHL Film Number: 1282971
Reference ID: bk 1
And his daughter as a possible match for Anna Olsen Nelson.
Name: Anna Marie Olsen Bakker
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 30 jul 1892
Baptism Date: 28 aug 1892
Baptism Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Father: Anton Olsen Bakker
Mother: Maren Kristiansen
However after looking at his original marriage record I do not think that this Anton Olsen Bakke is a match for Anton Olsen the brother of Johannes Olsen.
Here is a link to the original record for the marriage.
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This indicates that this Anton Olsen was born abt 1861 in Øier (Øyer) a parish in Oppland so probably not the Anton you are looking for.
The marriage record shows his confirmation record is on April 30, 1876. So this is likely him, born June 2, 1861. Father is Ole Østensen.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 02/12/2018 : 03:35:29
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Here is the emigration record for the Anna Antonsdatter
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The whole group on one page
Link
This Anna Antonsen from the 1900 Norwegian Census fits with the emigration record
1900
Also the farm that she is living on is named Gjermshusberget the same farm name that is connected with Karen Andreasdatter wife of Johannes Olsen in the marriage record for those two. So maybe she is a relative of Karen and not of Johannes
So this is the baptism record for Karen
Name: Karen Olsen (should be Andreasen)
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 8 okt 1875 (8 Oct 1875)
Baptism Date: 21 nov 1875
Baptism Place: , , Hedmark, NorwayVinger
Father: Andreas Olsen
Mother: Anne Arnesdr
FHL Film Number: 1282607
Her mother Anne Arnesdatter is the grandmother of Anna according to the 1900 Census. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 02/12/2018 : 04:33:43
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Hans Andreassen and his wife inga and a very young son probably left for Boston in 1903
Link
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Married in Eidskog, father of the bride is Ole Olsen
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Baptism of Osmund Alfred in 1901
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 02/12/2018 : 04:47:06
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So this is likely the baptism record for your Anna born May 6, 1893 in Vinger, Hedmark.
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Father is Anton Hansen and the mother is Andrea Andreasdatter
Andrea is the older sister of Karen wife of Johnannes Olsen.
Name: Andrea Andersen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 25 feb 1872
Baptism Date: 21 jul 1872
Baptism Place: , , Hedmark, NorwayVinger
Father: Andreas Olsen
Mother: Anne Arnesdr
FHL Film Number: 1282607
Here is the family of Andreas Olsen and Anne Arnesdatter in the 1875 Cenus, list includes both Andrea age 3 and Karen age 0
Andreas Olsen
in the Norway, Select Census, 1875
Name: Andreas Olsen
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: abt 1844
Birth Place: Eidskog
Residence Date: 1875
Residence Place: Libæk, Hedmark, Norway
Age: 31
Clerical District: Vinger
Circuit Number: 3
List Number: 24
Farm Number: 253b3
FHL Film Number: 273124
Household Members:
Name Age
Andreas Olsen 31
Anne Arnesdatter 30
Ole Andreasen 2
Andrea Andreasen 3
Karen Andreassen 0
Kari Eriksdatter 52 |
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volsen
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Posted - 02/12/2018 : 06:47:34
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That makes much more sense. I wonder what happened to Anton Olsen born 1867? Well I am sure you are right. Anna L Olsen born 1892 matches DNA Karen's lines but I could not figure out how she was Antonsdatter. Thank you so much I appreciate it.
Vickie
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
So this is likely the baptism record for your Anna born May 6, 1893 in Vinger, Hedmark.
#19
Father is Anton Hansen and the mother is Andrea Andreasdatter
Andrea is the older sister of Karen wife of Johnannes Olsen.
Name: Andrea Andersen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 25 feb 1872
Baptism Date: 21 jul 1872
Baptism Place: , , Hedmark, NorwayVinger
Father: Andreas Olsen
Mother: Anne Arnesdr
FHL Film Number: 1282607
Here is the family of Andreas Olsen and Anne Arnesdatter in the 1875 Cenus, list includes both Andrea age 3 and Karen age 0
Andreas Olsen
in the Norway, Select Census, 1875
Name: Andreas Olsen
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: abt 1844
Birth Place: Eidskog
Residence Date: 1875
Residence Place: Libæk, Hedmark, Norway
Age: 31
Clerical District: Vinger
Circuit Number: 3
List Number: 24
Farm Number: 253b3
FHL Film Number: 273124
Household Members:
Name Age
Andreas Olsen 31
Anne Arnesdatter 30
Ole Andreasen 2
Andrea Andreasen 3
Karen Andreassen 0
Kari Eriksdatter 52
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volsen
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Posted - 02/12/2018 : 06:56:12
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Oh wait she wouldn't be Olsen. Maybe it's a coincidence about similar birth date. Maybe she is related some other way.
Thank you again.
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Originally posted by volsen
That makes much more sense. I wonder what happened to Anton Olsen born 1867? Well I am sure you are right. Anna L Olsen born 1892 matches DNA Karen's lines but I could not figure out how she was Antonsdatter. Thank you so much I appreciate it.
Vickie
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
So this is likely the baptism record for your Anna born May 6, 1893 in Vinger, Hedmark.
#19
Father is Anton Hansen and the mother is Andrea Andreasdatter
Andrea is the older sister of Karen wife of Johnannes Olsen.
Name: Andrea Andersen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 25 feb 1872
Baptism Date: 21 jul 1872
Baptism Place: , , Hedmark, NorwayVinger
Father: Andreas Olsen
Mother: Anne Arnesdr
FHL Film Number: 1282607
Here is the family of Andreas Olsen and Anne Arnesdatter in the 1875 Cenus, list includes both Andrea age 3 and Karen age 0
Andreas Olsen
in the Norway, Select Census, 1875
Name: Andreas Olsen
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: abt 1844
Birth Place: Eidskog
Residence Date: 1875
Residence Place: Libæk, Hedmark, Norway
Age: 31
Clerical District: Vinger
Circuit Number: 3
List Number: 24
Farm Number: 253b3
FHL Film Number: 273124
Household Members:
Name Age
Andreas Olsen 31
Anne Arnesdatter 30
Ole Andreasen 2
Andrea Andreasen 3
Karen Andreassen 0
Kari Eriksdatter 52
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