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Roberta
Junior member
USA
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 Posted - 24/09/2007 : 05:09:57
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Thank you DALB for all the good information. I don't know how you managed to find most of it because those records are not very easy to read. Kåre, in your posting of 9/12 you state that Anders Gunliksen is on Ness yttre in the 1782 census of Seljord living with his mother. If you were referring to Anders Gunleksen who married Edel Olavsdr and was the son of Gunlek Towsen and Mari Olsdr, it couldn't be the same Anders. His mother, Mari, died in 1744. My notes indicate that: The death and burial record is found on p.42 which states she died at 38 as the result of the birth of her daughter, Astri. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7968&idx_id=7968&uid=ny&idx_side=-44
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 24/09/2007 : 12:43:28
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Roberta,
I am sorry for putting up the wrong Anders Gunliksen, he was just a namesake.
Thank you for correcting me.
Here is his father in 1782 on Toe, Gunlik Towsen Enkemand - widower and 6 children, Click here
Here is the birth record for Astri Gunliksdatter Toe, Dominica (Sunday) 20 after Trinity, Sillejord
Astri, Gunlik Towsen og Mari Olsdr Thos Datter (Daughter).
The next is the godparents.
Next column: Døde nogle dager efter hun........She died a few days after she....... (hard to understand the....in the 1774 languide)
Left page, christening #3
The funeral of both the mother Mari and her daughter Astri was 5 weeks after Astri was christened.
It looks like Astri died "gl 9d" (9 days after she was born), see the burial link abowe.
Astri, Gunlic Tovs:(en) Thos Barn.gl 9d.
Kåre |
Edited by - Kåarto on 24/09/2007 20:12:58 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2007 : 14:17:05
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Anders Guliksen was born on Øvreland, christened in Seljord church (Jan.) 2 Sunday in 1758:
Parents: Gunlich Tovsen og Mari Olsdr Øveland.
Godparents: Halvor Svendsen og Aste Christiansdr Udgarden, Wolfvard Olsen Windal, Helge Kitulsdr Garvig, Ascher Halvorsdr Toe.
Right page, Anders christening #3
Was Mari Olsdr from Øvreland or did they first settled down there?
Kåre |
Edited by - Kåarto on 24/09/2007 20:19:01 |
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Roberta
Junior member
USA
64 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2007 : 19:42:34
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| I descend from Gunlik's line, not Mari's so I had not pursued her ancestry. I don't know about Mari's background at all at this point. However, Gunlich is shown in the Bygdeboks as the 5th owner of the Toe Farm (perhaps the Fjostuft portion?). He got Toe from his father, Tov Andressen. From that I would guess that Gunlik and Mari may have lived at Øvreland first before moving to Toe when his father no longer was able to farm or when he died. Tov died in 1769. His birth and baptismal record is found on p. 17 of the Seljord Parish Registers for 1692. The death and burial record is found on p. 27 of 1769. I have a lot of information from LDS on the Utgarden relationship that I have not yet put into the database. Perhas that will eventually shed some light on the subject. I don't know as yet how they fit into the family exactly. |
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Edited by - Roberta on 24/09/2007 19:52:58 |
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Roberta
Junior member
USA
64 Posts |
Posted - 25/09/2007 : 00:08:45
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| More information on the families of Gunnar Andreson and Guro Andresdr (posting of 9/13/2007) can be obtained from the LDS website along with information on Gunder Anderssen's parents (Andres Gunnarsen and Helge Olsdr) and Gunder's siblings. This is all from an individual record and would need to be verified in the church records, but it is a good map to follow. |
Roberta |
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Shauna Hicks
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 30/09/2007 : 03:35:19
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I have been away and am amazed at all the additional replies and extra information and links. I have also replied direct to Roberta about our distant relationship which is really exciting. Thanks again everyone for helping with my Norwegian ancestry.
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Shauna Hicks
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Roberta
Junior member
USA
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 30/09/2007 : 07:13:12
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The name is Anders, born May 1 1844, christened June 9. His mother was "Ugift Quinde" unmarried woman Anne Stenersdatter Bugten i Sellej. (Seljord) "der udlegger som fader gift Mand" - who gives as father married man Gunder Jørgensen Toe.
Godparents were Maria Ketelsdatter Svarvaren, Niels Ketelsen Svarvaren, Tarje Skoland, Maren Nilsdatter Bugten and Gunild Nilsdatter Bugten.
Anders was baptized at home by Ole Knudsen Strandstøl and since he was an "uægte" child the information was "Anmeldt af Barnemoderen selv i Nils Svarvarens Nærværelse" - given by the childs mother herself with Nils Svarvaren as a witness. |
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Edited by - eibache on 30/09/2007 07:19:28 |
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Roberta
Junior member
USA
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2007 : 08:57:20
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Olaf "twilling" - twin, was born Sept 13 and Nov 21 "i Sellj. stadf. dpt." - in seljord (curch) confirmed christened (at home).
His parents were "Ugift Quinde" unmarried woman Anne Stenersdatter Bugten "og Peder Olsen Gjersand, enkemand" - and Peder Olsen Gjersand, widower.
Godfathers were Gunild Hunsaas, Dordi Smeland, Helge Svarvaren, Guttorm Smeland, Halvor Smaadalene.
Since Olaf was an "uægte" child this information was "Anmeldt af Barnets Moder Selvstendig" - given by the childs mother alone and Olaf was "hjemedt. af" - christened at home by Jacob Terjesen, Aase.
In the last column is noted "Quindens 2det Leiermål" - the womans second "uægte" child - "dette barn war twilling med et andet som war dødfødt" - this child was a twin with another who was stillborn.
In the records for burried you will find the record for stillborn child. "Ugift Quinde Anne Stenersdatter Bugten og enkemand Peder Olsen Bugten Uægte og Dreng samt Twilling med et andet Barn som lever" - uægte and boy together with another child who is living. |
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Roberta
Junior member
USA
64 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 00:57:11
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| Does anyone have any suggestions as to finding more information on Anne Stenersdr Bugten as she is the ancestor of the Australian link in this thread? I checked for censuses, but was unsuccessful and I could not pinpoint her in the LDS records either. I don't have enough information, I guess. According to a source one of the Bygdeboks identifies Peder Olsen as living on the Bugten farm at one point. Also that Gunnar Jorgenson Bjorge's son born to Anne Steinarsdr in 1844 named Anders went to Lie in Mo and then Australia in 1873. |
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Shauna Hicks
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 05/10/2007 : 00:45:07
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The only information I have on Anne Stennersdatter is that she was born 3 Jan 1819 Lie, Seljord and that her father was Stener Evensen.
Anders married Aase Halvorsdatter 11 Oct 1872 in Mo. Aase was born 3 Jan 1845 in Mo, the daughter of Halvor Thorsen and Margith Larsdatter who were married 20 Nov 1842 in Mo. Halvor was born 1811 and Margith 1818 but that is all I know on them.
Anders and Aase emigrated to Queensland 1873 with their two sons but both children died on the voyage. They had another four children in Queensland but two died. There are descendants from two sons - my maiden name is Gunderson because Anders used the name Andrew Gunderson after he had been living here for a while. |
Shauna Hicks
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2007 : 00:56:53
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Hi,
you are right.
Anne Stenersdatter was born Jan. 13. 1819.
Parents: Stener Evensen and Anne Hansdatter Lie, right page #3
I´ll try to examine more records tomorrow.
Kåre |
Edited by - Kåarto on 05/10/2007 01:11:34 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2007 : 07:30:10
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Halvor Thorsen (actually Tovsen or Tofsen) was born June 19 1811, see bottom of left page here his parents were Tov Asbjørnsen and Aase Halvorsdatter.
See also the 1865 census here.
Margit Larsdatter was born Oct 16 1817, see #14 her parents were Lars Pedersen and Marget Svendsdatter.
Halvor Tovsen and Marget Larsdatter marriage record is #11
Lars Pedersens parents and his brother is here
Marget (or Margithe) Svendsdatters parents and her brother is here
Lars and Margits marriage record is #4 |
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 05/10/2007 08:44:37 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2007 : 08:00:28
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Anders Gundersen born May 1 1844 left Mo April 28 1873, he was then married to Aase Halvorsdatter born Jan 3 1845 and they had two children Lars ("uægte") bor Dec 8 1867 and Gunder born March 23 1873. See #14-17
Anders and Aases marriage record is #14
The birth record for Lars is #13
Anders was not his father - that was Lars Larsen who had an "uægte" child before.
Gunders birth record is #21 |
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 05/10/2007 08:21:02 |
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Gunder Jorgensen Toe 1851 to Minnesota
