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Mulhernjm
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 13/11/2007 : 21:29:50
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I am looking for information on Peder Braaten and Jeannette Sjerstad. Peder was born in Norway in 1863 and Jeannette in 1862. They were married but I am not sure if this was before coming to the US. They eventually settled in Minneapolis, MN. Peder was a Baker. I believe he may have come to the US in 1882 according to the 1920 census records. Any help would be greatly appreciated! |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 13/11/2007 : 22:32:27
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A strong possibility for Jeannette Sjerstad:
Jonette Olsdr (4) on the Skjerstad farm in Elverum, Hedmark, census-1865.
Jonette Olsdr Christening: 13 JUL 1862, Elverum, Hedmark Parents: Ole Hansen & Kirsti Embretsdr
Karen Olsdr Christening: 06 SEP 1857, Elverum, Hedmark Parents: Ole Hansen & Kirsti Embretsdr
Karen (26) & Jannethe (21) Skjærstad emigrating to Morris on 06 Sep 1883
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Mulhernjm
Starting member
USA
8 Posts |
Posted - 14/11/2007 : 04:04:42
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Wow, I appreciate all the information so quickly! I think this is an excelent lead in the right direction. I have to double check with my Aunt but I remember seeing Olsen on something, which would make sense with the above scenario.
As far as Peder goes, I found that there was a Braaten Farm by looking at some of the other posts. I wonder if there could be any relation? If this is the correct Jeannette then, her and Peder must have gotten married in the states, so I'm going to see if I can find something in Morris possibly.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 14/11/2007 : 11:04:53
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Hi, there is a Braaten farm in Elverum, which could be a very likely origin for Peder. However, there is noone by the name Peder living there in census-1865. The family could of course have moved there later...
Another possibility: Peder Halvorsen Braaten (20), from Sandsvær, emigrating to Edgerton on 27 APR 1883. But his profession reads "salesman/clerk"...
Same person on the Dahl-Braaten farm in Sandsvær, Buskerud, census-1865.
Consider it a "wild shot" until further proof is collected...
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 14/11/2007 : 12:16:02
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There were/are quite a few farms called Braaten all over Norway. It would be wise to thoroughly search US records and documents for any possible mention of WHERE in Norway Peter/Peder actually came from. |
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Mulhernjm
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 14/11/2007 : 15:25:05
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I think you may be correct about Jeannette! I just went back over the census records and found something I overlooked before. On the 1930 census (MN) Peder and Jeannette had Jeannette's brother living with them. His name was listed as Nicoli Scharstad. Could Scharstad be the Americanized version of Skjerstad? It shows that he was 61 years in 1930 so he would have been born after th 1865 census. The census shows that he arrived in 1880 (strange, as he would have only been 11 and this was 3 years before Jeannette.)
I'm still working on trying to get proof of where they came from. I wish they had been more specific on paperwork instead of just saying "Norway" :) I guess then, solving these puzzles wouldn't be as fun! I am now trying to see if I can't find their naturalization paperwork, that may have it. The 1920 MN census shows that Peder was naturalized in 1888 and Jeannette in 1889. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 14/11/2007 : 18:38:29
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Same place, same parents...
Nicolai Olsen Christening: 09 AUG 1868, Elverum, Hedmark Parents: Ole Hansen & Kirsti Embretsdr
5 more siblings of Jeannette in case you discover more info in the US...
Hans Olsen, chr 24 AUG 1845 Elverum, Hedmark Emil Olsen, chr 01 JAN 1848 Elverum, Hedmark Gulbrand Olsen, chr 09 JUN 1850 Elverum, Hedmark Herman Olsen, chr 30 APR 1854 Elverum, Hedmark Oluf Olsen, chr 16 OCT 1859 Elverum, Hedmark
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Edited by - jwiborg on 14/11/2007 22:26:57 |
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DALB
Medium member
USA
143 Posts |
Posted - 14/11/2007 : 21:12:47
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This could be your family - in Elverum - from the older parish transcripts -
birth of Jonette's paretns - 1822 8 Nov Ole - Hans Olsen & Guri Halvorsd Skerbakken (? read wrong - it is Mortensd on 1865 census) 1824 7 Mar Kirsti Embret Grundset & Helene Larsd
birth of Ole's father Hans & a sister Siri - who are on the 1865 census 1797 Feb 12 Hans Ole Hansen & Berith Andersd Skierbakken 1799 Dec 26 Siri Ole Hansen & Berthe Andersd Skiorbakken
- other children born to Ole Hansen & Berthe Andersd at Skierbakken - 1802 Jul 25 Kari 1804 Nov 18 Marthe 1807 July 27 Anders 1810 June 23 Berthe 1813 Jan 6 Gunne 1815 Nov 14 Ove
parents marriage - Ole & Berthe 1795 Nov 12 Ole Hansen Schjerbakken & Berthe Andersd Stoen Hans Olsen age 4 and his parents and grandmother - 1801 - Wæstrehoug http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=32&filnamn=f10427&gardpostnr=16&personpostnr=747&merk=747#ovre 745 Ole Hansen Mand 33 Givte 1ste gang Huusmand med jord giørtler skieløber M 746 Berthe Andersdtr Hans kone 29 Givte 1ste gang K 747 Hans Olsen Deres børn 4 Ugivt M 748 Siri Olsdtr Deres børn 2 K 749 Kari Olsdtr Mandens moder 75 Enke 1ste gang Har føderaad
death of Kari - 1805 May 12 Kari Olsd Skierbakken 79 --------------------------- birth of Guri Mortendatter - wife of Hans Olsen 1801 Sept 13 Guri Morten Andresen & Ingebor Johnsd Mitskoven
marriage of Morten & Ingebor 1787 Dec 28 Morten Andersen Mitskoven & Ingebor Johnsd Satre 1801 at Grundseth - Guri's parents http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=34&filnamn=f10427&gardpostnr=12&personpostnr=583&merk=583#ovre 583 Morten Andersen Mand 50 Givte 1ste gang Huusmand med jord M 584 Ingebor Johnsdtr Hans kone 38 Givte 1ste gang K 585 Anders Mortensen Deres børn logerende 12 Ugivt M 586 John Mortensen Deres børn logerende 9 M 587 Giertrud Hansdtr Deres børn logerende 58 Ugivt Inderst arbeyder
children's births - Anders - b. 1789 Aug 23 - Mitskoug Jon - b. 1792 Apr 29 - Mitskougen there was another child born in 1795 - died 1801 - 1795 Dec 13 Gurie Mortne Andersen & Ingebor Jonsd Midtskovern death - 1801 Feb 1 Guri Mortensd Mitskofen 5 yr |
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Mulhernjm
Starting member
USA
8 Posts |
Posted - 14/11/2007 : 22:03:22
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Wow, you have no idea how excited I am about this information. On the 1930 Census it shows Jeannett's birthday being in May of 1862, which would make sense for her christening to be in July of that year. I just ordered the naturalization papers for Peder, so I guess his research is on hold until I receive them and hope that there is a location! Peder and Jeannette are my gggrandparents. My grandfather would tell stories of Peder's Bakery and of Jeannette from when he was a kid. :)
Thank you again for all your help. I can see from the boards that you are a HUGE resource for Norway Genealogy! |
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Mulhernjm
Starting member
USA
8 Posts |
Posted - 14/11/2007 : 22:08:45
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Wow, the last post came in at the same time as I was typing my last one. So much information. I'm looking over it all now.
Thanks! |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 14/11/2007 : 22:23:41
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And here is the original christening record of Jeannette Sjerstad... she is born May 14th..., see #97
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Jean Marthaler
Junior member
USA
56 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2007 : 00:41:17
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In the 1905 census for Hastings Ward 2, Dakota County, Minnesota, Peter is listed with the middle initial P. He is shown as a baker. Jean |
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Jean Marthaler
Junior member
USA
56 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2007 : 01:04:32
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In looking at the 1900 census for Red Wing, Goodhue County, MN it says that Peter was born in November 1862 and has been married 11 years with 5 children and 4 still living. He again is listed as a baker. Here is the summary of the census.
1900 United States Federal Census - Ancestry.com Name: Reder Braaten Home in 1900: Red Wing Ward 3, Goodhue, Minnesota Age: 37 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Birthplace: Norway Relationship to head-of-house: Head Spouse's name: Jenetta Race: White Immigration Year: 1885 Household Members: Name Age Reder Braaten 37 Jenetta Braaten 38 Nora E Braaten 10 Jennette Braaten 6 Ethel K Braaten 2 Cornelia B Braaten 2.12
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Jean Marthaler
Junior member
USA
56 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2007 : 01:09:59
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The family is in Red Wing, Goodhue County also in the 1895 census, here is looks like his middle initial might be D. Also the young lady in the 1900 census listed as Nora is very likely Cora. Jean |
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Jean Marthaler
Junior member
USA
56 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2007 : 01:15:09
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In the 1910 census the family is listed in Hennepin County, MN, here Peter is again given the middle initial of P. Jean
1910 United States Federal Census Name: Cora E Braaten Age in 1910: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Birthplace: Minnesota Relation to Head of House: Daughter Father's name: Peter P Father's Birth Place: Norway Mother's name: Janett Mother's Birth Place: Norway Home in 1910: Minneapolis Ward 3, Hennepin, Minnesota Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Female Household Members: Name Age Peter P Braaten 47 Janett Braaten 48 Cora E Braaten 20 Pauline J Braaten 15 Ethel C Braaten 12 Cornelia B Braaten 10 Bernard o Braaten 6
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Jean Marthaler
Junior member
USA
56 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2007 : 02:19:35
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I found this record for a 20 year old Peder Pederson from Odalen leaving Kristiania in 1883. If Peter Braaten was born in November of 1862 this month does match for the Per Pederson in the birth record below and part of the family below in the 1865 census. I would believe this is very likely the correct man. I haven't found him in the Sør Odal leaving records at this point. Jean
Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930 Year Page Line no. Serial no. New family gr. Contract date Date of departure Given name Last name Marital status Family pos. Occupation Sex Age Domicile Destination Line Ship Freight (kr) Freight (øre) Payment info. Nationality Permission 68728 1883 73 24 4158a 1 18.05.1883 18.05.1883 Peder Peders. Bager m 20 Odalen New York Andersen Angelo 208 10 P. Attest
This entry number 78 is the Per Pederson shown below in the 1865 census in Sønre Odal, Hedmark, I believe he may be the one who immigrated in the above entry. Notice the father's farm name in the birth record is Fulubratte and the birth date is November 28, 1862 and the baptism date is April 19, 1863.
Kildeinformasjon: Hedmark fylke, Sør-Odal, Ministerialbok nr. 2 (1859-1863), Fødte og døpte 1863, side 78. Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8870&idx_id=8870&uid=ny&idx_side=-84
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070124340709.jpg
1865-telling for 0419 Søndre Odalen District no. Page School distr. Local parish Parish Farm Remarks (farm) Title 13 1 13 Knudserud, Kjaberg og Odals Værk Strøm Søndre Odalen Store Fulu 277, 280 1 Pers.no. Household Given name Last name Family pos. Occupation Marital status Age Sex Birth place Cattle Sheep Pig Rye Barley Mixed grain Oat Potatoes 79 18 1 Peder Embrets. Husfader Gaardbruger Selveier g 44 m søndre Odals Prgj. 3 4 1 1/8 2/8 4/8 2 4/8 5 80 19 Eli Olsd. hans Kone g 38 k Vingers Prgj. 81 20 Embret Peders. hans Søn ug 14 m søndre Odals Prgj. 82 21 Karelius Peders. hans Søn ug 13 m søndre Odals Prgj. 83 22 Ole Peders. hans Søn ug 10 m søndre Odals Prgj. 84 23 Gudbrand Peders. hans Søn ug 7 m søndre Odals Prgj. 85 24 Bernt Peders. hans Søn ug 6 m søndre Odals Prgj. 86 25 Peder Peders. hans Søn ug 4 m søndre Odals Prgj. 87 26 Hans Peders. hans Søn ug 1 m søndre Odals Prgj. 88 27 Olia Pedersd. hans Søn!! ug 17 k søndre Odals Prgj. 89 28 Lisbet Embretsd. Logerende Sypige ug 47 k søndre Odals Prgj.
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