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Erik Carsten
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 Posted - 01/04/2008 : 21:41:58
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O.K. First cousins. Then I would expect to find Liv and Ola Trondson Brandvol where Caroline and Thron ended up. I found Carolin and Thron in White Rock South Dakota with their sons Leivert and Clarence in 1900 U.S. Census....but after that I could find no census information on them at all.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 01/04/2008 : 21:52:53
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| ....their name could be Trondson but their farm name could have been Sletto? Slettene? |
Edited by - Erik Carsten on 01/04/2008 21:54:39 |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 01/04/2008 : 22:53:07
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I think if somebody could look in Qu'appelle Saskachewan that the Brandvold people might be found there. Can anybody see them?
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jwiborg
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Posted - 01/04/2008 : 23:06:53
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I did have a look there yesterday, but couldn't find any familiar names...?
1911 Census for Saskatchewan, Canada:
Garland Brandvold, 1857
Carrie Brandvold, 1862
Martin Brandvold, 1886
Edward Brandvold, 1890
Carline Brandvold, 1894
Harry Brandvold, 1896
Selma Brandvold, 1901
Olaind Brandvold, 1901
Mabel Brandvold, 1903
Alton Brandvold, 1905
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 01/04/2008 : 23:30:11
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I can see them in the 1906 CANADA Census. found in Ancestry.com
Tron b 1870
Caroline b. 1868
Brandvold, no first name b 1894
Clarence b. 1899
Lida b. 1901
Nellie b. 1904
Strange they are not in the 1911 Census. They might have moved back to the United States? |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 08:02:00
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Dear Board Members:
1. The book sent to me by interlibrary loan for Modum was the wrong volume. So we are still at a dead end with regards to Oluf's father.
2. I have the Saskatchewan Genealogy Society looking into the question of the Brandvold people that were at Qu'appelle, SK in the 1906 Territoryial Census.
Now I have another mystery that has been bugging me.
Going back to early posts in this very long thread it was noted that Oluf's stepfather, Josias Boraas came over from Norway with his wife Ingeborg and their sons Torsten and Haagen aboard the ship VICTOR in 1866.
However, in two other sources I have come across it states that there were two sisters, Ingeborg and Emma that also came with them.
They are listed in their brother's Henry (Haagen obituary) and also in a family document that the Douglas County Historical Society has sent met.
I see an Ingeborg Hagen married to a John Hagen living in EVansville, Douglas Minnesota in the 1880 Census. She was said to be born in 1853-1854.
Here is the problem. Looking at the DIGITALARKIVET for this family in 1865 in the Nord Trondelag Fylke, Hegre Sogn parish, we see Josias, Ingeborg, Torsten and Haagen.....but no girls.
In the ship's manifest of the VICTOR sailing in 1866 for America we see the family but again, no girls.
In the 1875 Douglas County Census they are again not with the family, which means they were then probably old enough to be married and had moved out. But why were they not with the family in Norway or on the Ship's manifest?
I don't have any idea when "Emma" might have been born but I am looking for these two girls.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 19:02:34
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Ingeborg Anna
Born 05-FEB-1853
Christening 13-MAR-1853, Hegra, Øvre Stjørdal, Nord-Trøndelag
Parents: Josias Torstensen Raajerdet & Ingeborg Hemmingsdr
Ingebor A. Josiasdatter as a servant on Boraas østre in census-1865.
Here is one Emma Boraas in the 1880-census for Cerro Gordo, Lac qui parle, Minnesota. But Boraas looks to be her married name...
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 22:31:38
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Thank you Jan Peter.
That is the girl. No doubt. What does "servant" actually mean in this context? She was only 12 years old and living away from her parents? Just for the record, I see Annie (Ingeborg) in the 1880 US Census living with her husband John Hagen, and children Emelie (7) and Twins Julius (3) and Gilbert (3) in Evansville, Douglas Minnesota
In the 1900 US Census I see Annie (46) still with John Hagen (52), son Gilbert (22) and more children IDA (15), Albert (13), and Annie (10)
living in Duluth, Minnesota
In the 1910 US Census I see John Hagen listed as widowed. I believe Annie passed away on 12-28-1909. I am trying to locate an obituary. |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 22:34:26
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Here is one Emma Boraas in the 1880-census for Cerro Gordo, Lac qui parle, Minnesota. But Boraas looks to be her married name...
Jan Peter
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I have run into this family in my researching but I don't think they are related to the Josias Boraas family |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 22:38:36
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| According to the obituary of Henry Boraas that mentions his two sisters, it stated that Annie (I think this must be a mistake and it should have read EMMA) was married to a Paul Johnson and that they lived in IOWA for a time, and eventually she ended up in FARIBAULT, Minnesota. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 22:55:25
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quote:
Originally posted by Erik Carsten
Thank you Jan Peter.
That is the girl. No doubt. What does "servant" actually mean in this context? She was only 12 years old and living away from her parents?
She was working on the Boraas østre farm, which was a neighboring farm to her parents' farm.
Hard to say what kind of work she was doing, but she could eg. look after the two young boys living there; Ole (7) and Johan (5). Or she could possibly help the housewife with cleaning, washing clothes or look after the 2 horses, 7 cattles and the 17 sheeps on the farm.
Note that this family was also Lutheran, so they belonged to the same congregation.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 22:59:29
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Thank you Jan Peter, can you or other Board Members.
Can anybody locate the following family either in Goodhue County, Holden Township or Douglas County, LaGrande township in the 1870 Census.
Josias Boraas b. May 20, 1821
Ingeborg Hansdotter Boraas b. 1821
Ingeborg Anna Boraas b. 2-5-1853
Torsten Boraas b. June 16, 1855
Haagen Boraas b. Jan. 16, 1862
Emma. no information |
Edited by - Erik Carsten on 03/04/2008 23:00:57 |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 08/04/2008 : 01:51:01
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[quote]Originally posted by Erik Carsten
Thank you Jan Peter, can you or other Board Members.
Can anybody locate the following family either in [i]Goodhue County, Holden Township or Douglas County, in 1870 Census?
Josias Torstensen Boraas b. May 20, 1821
Ingeborg Hansdotter Boraas b. 1824
Ingeborg Anna Boraas b. 2-5-1853
Torsten Boraas b. June 16, 1855
Haagen Boraas b. Jan. 16, 1862
Emma. no information but possibly married
Again, am posting this question to the board. I have been unable to locate this family in 1870 CENSUS. Can anybody see them anywher? They MUST be there, they arrived here in 1866. |
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tlwright65
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Posted - 10/04/2008 : 02:48:16
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| You're right, Erik....I have looked and looked in all counties of MN and can't find them under any variation of Boraas or Torstenson. They may not have gone straight to Minnesota either. I know they were there in 1875, but they could have been somewhere else before that. I'll keep trying to help! |
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Holly
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Posted - 10/04/2008 : 05:21:57
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I looked at every male, born Norway, age between 41 & 50 in both of those counties & couldn't find him. I even looked for every male between 51 & 60.
If you have his neighbors from the 1860 or 1880 census, you might want to try to find them to see if there is an empty dwelling next to them. If no one was home when the census taker came to visit, they'd sometimes ask neighbors about who was living in the "empty" home, but they sometimes just listed the dwelling as empty.
By the way, you were wondering about "Thomson". My Torje Tjøstolvsen / Kjøstolvsen became Tora or Thomas Thompson & all of his sons ended up with that surname as well.
I wanted to ask you & maybe you don't know, were your people connected to any of the "Holden" churchex?
Holden in Goodhue County, MN |
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Information on Margaret (Mickelstadther) Solberg
