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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 09/11/2008 :  10:09:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Erik,

Sorry no short cuts in the Hemsedal bygdebok or the Lag's special book of immigrants, there are no dates recorded for leave taking, just that they have gone. So you would have to go through the utflyttes to look for them, through the Oslo (most likely but other harbors as well) immigrants list at digitalarkivet, or take a flyer at one of the online 1880 census listings to see if they were here by that time and by looking at birthplaces of children in the household back it up to an approximate date, or by finding them in the 1900 census with an actual migration year.

You must have a record on the length of this thread by now!

Jackie M.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 10/11/2008 :  18:14:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jackie.

Yes, I know the thread is long and I'm a little embarrassed by that but this website and all of the researchers including you have been a great help. I will continue to look for those names you gave me to see when they emigrated.

I am not confident in my abilities and I will post what I find to get a second opinion for confirmation.

Talk to you soon!
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 10/11/2008 :  19:39:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jan Peter:

I realize my mistake in my last post to you...see above. The Margit "Olsdatter" Teigen was not "my" Margit because her name would have been Mikkelsdatter, not Olsdatter.

I have however stumbled across Margit Mikkelsdatter Fauske.....as a sponsor to a Ole Bakke. This was in 1856.

Margit Mikkelsdatter Fauske, sponsor at Baptism # 27
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 10/11/2008 :  22:08:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jackie,

Have found in Larry Hill's pubication, "Ancestors of My Father" that Kari Helgesdatter Berg born in 1816 died in 1857

Kari Helgesdatter Berg (Bakke) Death in 1857 #15

Can you double check the Bydgebok. I believe you told me she emigrated to America with her husband Erik Bakke but obviously this would be incorrect as she died in Norway.

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 10/11/2008 22:09:09
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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/11/2008 :  03:25:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Erik,

Very good!

The bygdebok actually says:
Kari 1816-1857 41 tvillinger * m. Eirik Bakke r A

Sorry to mislead you -- it does say she died in 1857 but not where...
Brings up an interesting point to always test a secondary source against the primary source records, if possible.

Hilsen,
Jackie M.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 11/11/2008 :  03:59:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jackie. No problem. I'm making some interesting progress this evening........

Can you make out the farm name in the following birth record? I can make out the parents name easily, Ole Helgesen Berg and Kari Mikkelsdatter.....????? I can't make out the farm name!

#45 Helge Olsen Berg Birth REcord

Thanks for your help, Jackie!
Erik.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/11/2008 :  18:20:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Erik,

Hmmm it defies description...

Checking the indexes there is one farm it might be "Sprikji" which is apparently an older name for a place called "Løvstad." Will check the book later and let you know what I find...

Jackie M.
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 11/11/2008 :  18:47:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree, I think it reads "Spriget", which would be "Sprikji" in the hillbilly dialect of Hemsedal...

Today's modern spelling of the farmname is Sprike.
The main farm in the area is Holle, and the distance to Berg, Fausko and Teigen farms are about 4-5 kilometer.



Jan Peter
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 11/11/2008 :  19:35:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Jan Peter and Jackie:

I have been making some good progress and would like to share this based upon the information you have found for me:

My great-great grandmother, Margit Mikkelsdatter Fauske came to America with her sons Thor and Olaf in 1871. I had since wondered who she knew before she came over and what prompted her to come over all alone with a one year child.

If you remember we initially thought she might have been sent to a relation of her first lover, Aslak Thorsen Bakke, perhaps out of guilt of his illigitimate child because he did not or was not able to marry her.

But it is clear to me that she came over to be with her sister, Kari Mikkelsdatter (Berg). Kari had emigrated some years before in 1866 and I think that Kari was sick and they might have sent for Margit to help with the house.

Kari died what we believe to be a slow and horrible death in 1874 and in 1875 Minnesota State Census we find Margit living with the family.

I have since been exploring how Kari and her husband Ole Helgesen Berg might have come to emigrate. Who did they know?

For starters, Ole H. Berg had a brother Eivend (b. 1816) who married Anne Torgersdatter Krogen (Krokji)....I guess that's the "
hillbilly" dialect for you! They had the following children as found in the 1880 U.S. Census for Newry, Freeborn, Minnesota.

Helge b. 1851
Margit b. 1853
Ambjørg b. 1854 died young
Ambjørg b. 1856
Torger b. 1858
Thomas b. 1861.in Norway although he is not listed in the 1880 Census. I am not yet sure what happened to him by this time.
Lena b. 1862 in Minnesota

so it stood to reason that they emigrated in 1861 or 1862 and sure enough I see them here, emigrating in 1861:

Eivind Helgesen Berg and Anne Torgersdatter Krogen (Krokji) #43-49

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 11/11/2008 23:58:41
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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/11/2008 :  19:40:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jan P.,

Fortunately, I'm not a 'kniv-Halling', unlike lots of my ancestors!

But I will say this, 'hillbillies' both in Norway or America (of which I possess in my ancestry, numerous in both places) are usually colorful and compelling folk--no stale, plain 'white breads' amongst them!

Hilsen,
Jackie M.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 24/11/2008 :  23:01:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jan Peter:

I think I spot another of the Berg famiy emigrating in 1857.

I believe this is the record of Ronnaug Berg. According to Larry Hill's "Ancestors of My Father" she married Lag Eirikson Valres. But it doesn't look like Lag made the journey with them. It looks like two of her children, Lag and Erik did.

Ronnaug Berg and Children? #18-20

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 04/12/2008 17:54:40
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 25/11/2008 :  00:00:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found a Norwegian family research site that lists Lage's death as 1853.....link to Berg genealogy site in Norway
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eibache
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Posted - 25/11/2008 :  00:18:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lage Eriksen was 46 years old when he married Rønnøg Helgesdatter 21 years, see #6
since he did not emigrate it had its reasons, he died 1853, see #17

Einar
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 25/11/2008 :  01:51:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Eibache. It looks like Lage died on a Fauske farm.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 25/11/2008 :  03:49:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by jkmarler

Hi,

From the Hemsedalslekthistorie book:

Halvor Fausko 1808 and Anne were childless.

Anne Fausko 1800 m Knut Person Vøllo 5 children none went to America

Torstein 1806-1875 m Kari Eiricksdatter Dølehuso 12 children
of these 3 went to America Eirick 1840 m Marte Hustadbergji; Liv 1848 m Ola Olson Trøym "Ottar Ola"; Anne 1852 m in America Helge Arneson Berg.

Kari and Ole had one son not reported if he went to America.

Birgit Fausko m twice and apparently lived in Gol;children not recorded in the book.

Jackie M.


Hi Jackie:

It looks like Erik Torsteinsen Sletto and his sister Liv Torsteinsdatter Sletto had a double marriage! They got married April 11, 1870. See here~Erik and Liv Sletto's double marriage #4 and #5 in 1870

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 25/11/2008 03:57:35
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