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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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 Posted - 13/02/2008 : 00:54:17
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I think you can relax with regards to your fear being a Swede... 
The 1880 census for Chippewa, Douglas, Minnesota states that
Margret Thomson (50)
Theodore Thomson (21)
Olof Thomson (10)
are all born in Norway! 
You said you've ordered the marriage certificate between Josias and Margaret Barros... when did they marry? Census 1900 indicates 1881?
The Thomson name is confusing.
It could be that her late husband was named Christoffer Thomassen Solberg.
Or she could have married one "Thomson" in the US before she met J.T. Burros.
Or it could be a misspelling for JT Burros name "Torstensen".
But then again, she is listed as a widow in 1880, so it doesn't look like she has married JT Burros yet...
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 13/02/2008 01:05:39 |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 13/02/2008 : 01:10:28
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Dear Jan Peter
I can now tell you that because of information I received from the Historical Society that Josias married this Margeret/Mary Thompson on July 25, 1880. The older boy who was age 21 at this time elected to keep his name Thomson while everybody else changed it. They must have taken the census prior to that which would explain why Josias was not listed on the household. |
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Erik Carsten
Advanced member
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Posted - 13/02/2008 : 01:13:42
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[As long as we're in the 1880 census can we find the man later known as JT Burros -- 1900 used given name "Josias" or similar and those two others who might be sons of his first marriage.
Yup, plain as day -
Thos Boros, 24 yrs old
Henry Boraas, 18 yrs old AND for my finale
Josias Barrows, 59 yrs old, widower
DEar Hopkins.
I went online at the Mormon website which has the 1880 census and I could not pull any information for Henry (Haagen)Boraas. Could you tell did he have his own household and who was in it or was he listed with his father Josias? |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2008 : 01:20:46
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Henry is listed with some Davidson's: link
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Erik Carsten
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USA
578 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2008 : 01:26:09
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| o.k. you guys are very good. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2008 : 01:29:43
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Thos. Boros with wife Christine link
Josias Barrows link
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 13/02/2008 : 01:42:14
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| Dear Jan Peter. I don't actually have the marriage certificate in my hands but they told me the date over the phone. I should get it tomorrow or the next day and maybe it will show us what we need to know. |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 13/02/2008 : 01:59:22
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| Dear Jan Peter. I am thinking your idea that Mary/Margret might have married somebody before she met J.T. Boraas. In the biographical sketch I started with it said that she and OLUF came to the United States in 1872 and stayed in Goodhue County for 3 years. That would be a long time to be alone. How would she have supported herself. She must have been a mail bride and married somebody named Thomson? Maybe that is how Theodore Thomson entered into the family and why he choose to keep his name when Mary/Margret married again. It is only a hypothesis of course. I have nothing to back it up. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2008 : 13:00:35
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There is a possibility that Theodore Thomson was her stepson, but the 1900 census states that she has given birth to two childen, and that both are alive...
So:
Margaret Thomson (b. 1830)
Theodore Thomson (b.1859)
Olof Thomson (b.1870)
They came to the US ca 1872. And they probably travelled trough Quebec.
Have the Quebec arrival records been checked? Or the Canada-US boarder crossing?
One problem is that they might be filled under a varius of surnames.
Margaret might be named Mikkelsdatter, Thomassen, Solberg
Her sons might be named Christoffersen, Thomassen, Solberg
I can not find these people in the emigrant records from Norway, neither in the 1865 Norwegian census.
Strange, because Christoffer, Margaret and Theodore should all be living together then, and most likely on a Solberg farm.
But that can not be the case.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 13/02/2008 : 17:17:37
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History of Douglas and Grant Counties - Minnesota
Constant Larson Editor-in-Chief Vol 11 1916 page 363
Dear Dalb. Do you have access to this book? If so, do you find a biographical sketch on any of the following:
Theodore Thomson
Josias Boraas
Haagen (Henry) Boraas
Torsten Boraas?
Thank you.
Erik. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/02/2008 : 18:24:58
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It would be nice to know more about Theodore Thomson. Maybe marriage records or something... year of immigration...?
Could "someone" look up these records at Ancestry.com...?
1900 United States Federal Census, Douglas, Minnesota
Theon Thompson, b. 1859
1910 United States Federal Census, Douglas, Minnesota
Theodare Thompson, b. 1858
1920 United States Federal Census, Douglas, Minnesota
Theodore Thompson, b. 1859
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 13/02/2008 : 18:29:06
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Dear Jan Peter,
I have also ordered a death certificate for ...a... Theodore Thomspon who died in 1933 in Hennepin County thinking it might be him but I'm not sure......
edit to add....that would show his mother and father on it. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2008 : 18:50:54
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Ok, it could be...
MHS Death Certificate Index also shows this:
Thompson, Theodore
Date of Birth: na
Place of Birth: na
Mother Maiden Name: na
Date of Death: 09/27/1939
County of Death: DOUGLAS
certid# 1939-MN-003900
Jan Peter |
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Lester Hanson
Advanced member
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567 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2008 : 19:33:43
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Here are some quick printouts from the Minnesota census. I haven't tried to open the actual census forms yet, because my dial up is slow slow this week. Should be some interesting names to reference to.
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Theon Thompson
Home in 1900: Brandon, Douglas, Minnesota
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Birthplace: Norway
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Spouse's Name: Arra
Mother's Name: Ranghil
Race: White
Immigration Year: 1868
Household Members: Name Age
Theon Thompson 41
Arra Thompson 35
Ringholda Thompson 16
Ida Thompson 14
Tina Thompson 11
Lem Thompson 9
Martin Thompson 6
Ranghil Thompson 81 (Mother)
Peter C Thompson 56 (Brother)
1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Theodare Thompson
[Theodore Thompson]
Age in 1910: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Spouse's Name: Beret Anne
Home in 1910: Brandon, Douglas, Minnesota
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1868
Household Members: Name Age
Theodare Thompson 52
Beret Anne Thompson 45
Pagnhilda Thompson 26
Sam Thompson 19
Martin Thompson 16
1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Theodore Thompson
Home in 1920: Brandon, Douglas, Minnesota
Age: 61 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: B Anna
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of Immigration: 1868
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Household Members: Name Age
Theodore Thompson 61
B Anna Thompson 55
Martin Thompson 26
Peder Thompson 75
Let me know if you want mere specifics.
Les
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2008 : 19:56:41
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Thanks, Les!
There were some interesting names there, but now I'm in doubt if we have the right Theodore Thompson from the 1900-1920 census'es?
Because there is a Theadore Olson (21) in Chippewa, Douglas, Minnesota, census-1880, son of Thoris & Ragnel Olson. And in the Previous Household there are some Thompson's .
1900-census shows his mother as Ranghil Thompson 81, and there are not many other Ragnhild's born about 1819 in the us-1880 census that fits.
Is Chippewa far from Brandon, Douglas?
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 13/02/2008 19:58:17 |
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Information on Margaret (Mickelstadther) Solberg
