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Erik Carsten
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 Posted - 16/02/2008 : 16:17:10
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Dear Jan Peter
i can not scan it but the death certificate clearly states her fathers name as Mikel Terger.....it soes not provide her mother's name....
and in her son's (Oluf) death certficate it states his mother's maiden name as Margrit Terger. However, in the marriage certficate between her and Josias it states her name as Marit Mikelsen.......
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jwiborg
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Posted - 16/02/2008 : 16:38:09
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Hi
"Terger" is her farmname, or where her father Mikkel lived.
But it can not be Terger, because there is no farm in Norway by that name.
The farmname could be Tangen, Teigen, etc, or something like that, but it can not be "Terger".
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 16/02/2008 16:38:22 |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 16/02/2008 : 17:33:04
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Dear Jan Pete.
Thr death certificate and marriage certificate i received I now understand are not the originals they have been transribed from the originals on file. we will need to have access to view the originals and will phone the recorders office on Tuesday...Monday is President's Day.
in looking at Oluf's death certificate, which is the original,#I'm thinking the farm name might be Tergen, or Tiegen.
This is disappointing.
Best Regards
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/02/2008 : 18:33:44
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| Teigen IS a common Norwegian farm name. In 1865 census there are a large number of farms called Teigen in at least 15 of the different Norwegian fylker. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 16/02/2008 : 18:54:03
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That's what I just suggested.
The farmname could be Tangen, Teigen, etc, or something like that, but it can not be "Terger".
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 17/02/2008 : 00:21:36
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Dear Jan Peter:
In reading Oluf's death certificate I can now see where his mother's maiden name could be Teigen.
We also know that we have seen her first name in various derivations of Marit, Margit, Margrit, and Margaret.
We know that her father's name was Mikel Teigen...although the transcribed certificate was spelled out Tergen, which we now know is not possible.
We know that on her marriage certificate she listed herself as Marit Mikelsen.....but why not Mikelsdatter?
We also now know that she died January 17, 1901 and was 70 years, 7 months, and 1 day old. So that means she must have been born on June16, 1830 right?
Can you locate a M.....Teigen born on June 16, 1830?
This is all I have to go by until I can verify the certificates and receive additional information from the Historical Society.
Best Regards,
Erik.
edited to change estimated date of birth...... |
Edited by - Erik Carsten on 17/02/2008 00:24:01 |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 17/02/2008 : 00:57:04
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Hmmm... I have one Margit Mikkelsdatter who is born on June 16th actually, in 1830! 
She lives in Eker, Buskerud in census-1865, but she is born in Gol, Buskerud.
She has been one of my few "candidates", but so far I haven't been able to tie her to this case.
She is listed as Mariet Michalsd (36) in the 1865 census.
Margit Michelsdatter
Born 16 xxx 1830
Christening: 25 JUL 1830, Nes i Hallingdal, Buskerud
Parents: Mikkel Olsen & Birgit Halvorsdr
#68.
Source: Buskerud county, Gol, Parish register (official) nr. I 1 (1821-1837), Birth and baptism records 1830, page 90.
One thing that has made this woman interesting, is that there are Solberg farms in Eker, Buskerud.
Could she really be the Margaret Mickelstadther Solberg we're searching for? 
I should also add that there are Teigen farms in the area where she is born. I couldn't see any farm listed in her christening record, so the christening records of her siblings should be checked, to see if they are born on any Teigen farm.
Kari, chr 28 SEP 1834 Hemsedal, Buskerud
Birgit, chr 05 FEB 1837 Hemsedal, Buskerud
Liv, chr 01 MAR 1840 Hemsedal, Buskerud
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jwiborg
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Posted - 17/02/2008 : 09:52:36
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Kari, chr 28 SEP 1834 Hemsedal, Buskerud
Birgit, chr 05 FEB 1837 Hemsedal, Buskerud
Liv, chr 01 MAR 1840 Hemsedal, Buskerud
I can not see any connection to a farm similar to Teigen, but maybe someone else here can...?
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/02/2008 : 10:45:26
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Mickel Olsen (30) & Birgit Halvorsdatter (25)
Marriage 31 May 1829, Nes, Buskerud
# 45
I think Michel's farmname reads Fuske, and that it's this person in census-1801.
The farm is Fuske nordre (Fauske).
Could your OJ Burros' records read Fuske or Fauske?
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 17/02/2008 10:54:03 |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 17/02/2008 : 18:28:24
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Dear J%n Peter
No I really don't think so. Sorry
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 17/02/2008 : 19:58:42
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Dear Jan Peter
I was thinking another way to approach this might be to try and find C. Solberg in Norway. All I know is that he must have died sometime betwwen 1869-1872. is this too broad a range of dates to search. I have seen his name as Christian but on Oluf's death certificate he is listed as Christofer.
erik |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 17/02/2008 : 21:38:26
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I am so STUPID!
Oluf's death certificate clearly lists his date of birth as April 17, 1870. can you find him in the birth records and thus his parents as a result? |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/02/2008 : 21:59:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Erik Carsten
I am so STUPID!
Oluf's death certificate clearly lists his date of birth as April 17, 1870. can you find him in the birth records and thus his parents as a result?
Don't you think we have been looking for that since January 26th?
And for Christian/Christofer Solberg?
And for Margaret Mikkelsdatter born about 1930?
But to look for a boy named Oluf, although we know his date of birth, you need to know where to look.
There are 11000 churchbooks to search, containing 2.25 million images. If you don't know which book to look into, it will take some time...
Unfortunately, he is not born in Eker, Buskerud.
Jan Peter
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 17/02/2008 : 22:53:37
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was there any trace of Oluf's parents in the 1830 cencus? was there a cencus between then and 1865?
regarding the date of birth. finding Margit's date of birth seemed to imply some sort of break through that allowed you to find A certain Person that might be THEE one. if you have to look region by region may i ask why you choose Gol Buskerud? |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/02/2008 : 23:05:08
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Well, you asked if I could find any Margaret Mikkelsdatter, born June 16th, 1830.
The Margit Mikkelsdatter I showed you above, is born June 16th, 1830 in Gol, Buskerud, by parents Mickel Olsen Fuske & Birgit Halvorsdatter.
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Information on Margaret (Mickelstadther) Solberg
