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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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 Posted - 26/03/2008 : 08:54:21
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Originally posted by sharonlr
Elias olsen gotaas could be my Grt. Grt. Grandfather as his first child was named Mary Elizabeth Gotaas born 1877 the same name as his mother.Sharon
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sharonlr
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Australia
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Posted - 27/03/2008 : 05:54:38
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I have searched on Family Search for the family of Marie Elisabeth Lovvigen and could not find any of that surname. What would the English version be of Lovvigen.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 27/03/2008 : 06:52:54
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There are several posibilities, Løvigen, Løvig, Løviken, Løvik.
It would be beneficial to know where in Norway she came from and/or some dates. |
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annekol
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Norway
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Posted - 01/04/2008 : 22:57:52
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My GGG Grandfather was Elias Gotaas Olsen, born 17. dec. 1829 i Trondheim. His son, Anton, who was my GG Grandfather, had 4 children - two sons and two daughter. Elisabeth b. 1875, Edel Marie b. 1876, Albert b. 1880 and Aksel b. 1887. If my Elias is the same one who was going to Australia, you have may relatives her in Norway. Elisabeth have no childre, Edel Marie have 12 children, Albert got 11 and Aksel no children. I hope you will take contact for more information.
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sharonlr
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Australia
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Posted - 02/04/2008 : 06:51:56
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Anne - Rita this is very exciting news from you as I and my mother have been trying to find my Grt. Grt. Grandfather's family in Norway for over 20 years. With all the other listers help I am gradually putting together Elias's family. Have you any information on Elias's mother as to her parents, brothers and sisters? Has Elias's father Ole any other surname beside Gotaas? I guess to be absolutely sure that my Elias and yours are the same we have to find when he left Norway possibly to england as that was where the ship the " Thames " came from to Australia on which he was a crew member.
Elias was credited with making the first snow ski in Australia and with 2 other Norwegians forming the first ski club in the world.
The Holmenkollen Ski Museum in Norway confirmed this on the 1st July 1961, Australia beating Norway by a few months.
I would be very interested in all the information you have on Elias's family . Sharon |
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annekol
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Posted - 02/04/2008 : 07:49:35
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| I don't have so very much on his parents, but the same one as you. Ole Gotaas and Marie Elisabeth Løvigen from Trondheim. The parents was not married. May be you will have my e-post adress. annekol@online.no |
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sharonlr
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Posted - 05/04/2008 : 23:13:40
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Elias Gotaas came to Australia in 1859 and he was a whaling carpenter. He lived in Meloy on the Stott farm where there were many whales I wanted to know if there are any records of crew on whaling ships in the 1850s
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sharonlr
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Posted - 10/04/2008 : 07:53:12
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I would like to thank all the listers who gave me information on tracing my grt. grt. grandfather Elias Gotaas. Eibache you mentioned Olaus , Elias's father, could have been born in 1803 to a Benjamin Pedersen and Anna Olsdtr. On checking through the information on the parish records I also found an Olaus Olsen Gotaasvald born 1794 and living on the Gotaas farm aged 6 years on the census for 1801. I wondered if he could also be Elias's father. This Olaus married Kirsten Andersdtr Byvald in 1823 and had several children with her. On his marriage, birth of his children and his death it did not mention Olaus being a soldier. W
ould anyone have anymore information on this Olaus?
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 10/04/2008 : 09:39:03
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It's hard to find Elias' father without more information. Maybe there are traces of him in the military records?
He served at the Major Stabells Compagnie in 1829.
I'm quite positive that Ole must be from Skogn, but who his parents are, I'm not able to see. We have some possibilities, but more info of him is needed.
Military records, or possibly confirmation record? Maybe he was confirmed in Alstadhaug, Skogn around 1818...?
Jan Peter
ps: I guess you know that there is a photo of Elias in the book Kiandra- Gold Fields to Ski Fields? |
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sharonlr
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Posted - 11/04/2008 : 00:15:21
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Thank you Jan Peter, I do have a large copy of the photo of Elias which I had printed from the original which is held by a person in Adaminaby which is in the area where Elias lived. It was actually a pencil sketch which was done by one of his daughters.
Sharon
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annekol
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Posted - 11/04/2008 : 22:04:54
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I have been in contact with a relative. He is also lookin for Elias. He has been looking for a long time and he has this: Elias was going to confirmation 21.03.1844 in Lade church in Trondheim. His father was Ole Peter Pedersen who was a soldier number 47 in Major Sabell kompani. He was born 20.4.1807 in Brugdeveien in Trondheim, his parents was not married. When Ole Peter Pedersen was going to confirmation on 7.12.1823 in Alstadhaug church in Skogn, a farmer named as Søren Bottolfsen, Gotaas was written on the parents place.
This is what a got from my relatives.
I do not think that Elias only was on whaling ships. In this aera in Norway it was many fishing boats. Sometimes the same boats was fishing fish and hunting whales. Not on the same times, but in differents part of the year. You will not find any record from these boats.
I would like to know if the photo of Elias is on internett or if you can scan it and send it to me. |
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 11/04/2008 : 23:18:34
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This would probably be Ole's father in census-1801 then.
But why is Ole Peter named Pedersen? He should have been named Sørensen...
Jan Peter
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annekol
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Posted - 12/04/2008 : 15:25:03
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| Yes, I agree that he should have been named Sørensen. Maybe he was a fosterchild or just living on the farm, he is named as Gotaas. I am looking for him in Trondheim, but I do not know which church Brugdeveien belongs to. I have been looking in the book for uægte in Lade, he is not there. |
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 12/04/2008 : 17:08:55
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What is the source for "Brugdeveien"? I think that name must be wrong.
Confirmation record for Ole Peter:
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Source: Nord-Trøndelag county, Alstadhaug in Skogn, Parish register (official) nr. 717A04 /1 (1816-1825), Confirmation records 1823, page 539-540.
Født i Trondheim 1807 den 4 April, døpt i Domkirken 7. juni.
Born in Trondheim 04 Apr 1807, chr in the Trondheim Dome on June 7th.
Confirmation record # 29, 21 April 1844
Elias Olsen Gotaas (14 ¼)
Born 17 Dec 1829, Strinden
Chr 01 Feb 1830, Hlade
Parents: Soldier Ole Gotaas & girl Elisabeth Løvvigen
Source: Sør-Trøndelag county, Lade in Strinda, Parish register copy nr. 606C05 (1841-1849), Confirmation records 1844, page 86.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 13/04/2008 03:35:37 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/04/2008 : 03:00:26
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Chr record # 65, 1807
Norwegian: Xsti himelfartsdag d. 7. mai døbt uægte Dr. Ole Peter fød den 10.(?) april. Moder Rebecca Olsdatter. 1 L. (leiermål) i bondgtsveiten (?) Gdemoder Mad: (Madame) Hegge.
Fader Matros Peter Eriksen. Faddere: Kirsten Gilseth, Ane Margr. Olsdatter, Kirsten Estensdatter, Ole Talberg, Johannes Olsen og Jon Hansen.
English: Ascension Day May 7th, 1807, christened illegitimate child boy Ole Peter born April 10th(?).
Mother Rebecca Olsdatter (her 1st illegitimate child) in Bondgtsveiten(?) street (Trondheim). Midwife Madame Hegge.
Father able seaman Peter Eriksen.
Godparents: Kirsten Gilseth, Ane Margr. Olsdatter, Kirsten Estensdatter, Ole Talberg, Johannes Olsen and Jon Hansen.
Source: Sør-Trøndelag county, Domkirken in Trondheim, Parish register (official) nr. 601A07 (1770-1819), Birth and baptism records 1807, page 175
Hmmm.... how did this boy end up at Søren Bottolfsen Gotaas in Skogn?
I would guess there must be some family relations between Søren Bottolfsen (or his wife) and Peter Eriksen or Rebecca Olsdatter.
Butolf Andersen Hopla (1732-1818) & Inger Hansdtr. Gotaas (1743-1824)
Children: Marith (1766), Andreas (1770), Hans (1772), Hans (1774), Martha (1777), Ole (1779), Søren (1782).
Søren Butolfsen Gotaas (1782-1831) & Gjertrude Eriksdtr. Gryte (1796-)
Children: Bonsak (1816), Inger Bergitte (1817), Martha (1819), Erik Andreas (1822), Hans (1824-1824), Ole (1825), Karen Oline (1828-1828), Karen Oline (1830)
Peter Eriksen could be the brother of Søren's wife Gjertrude Eriksdtr. Gryte (1796-), but I could only find that she had sisters named Karen (1790-), Chirstina (1794-) and Olava (1798-).
So could there be any family releations to the Gotaas family through Rebecca Olsdatter?
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Edited by - jwiborg on 13/04/2008 16:43:19 |
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