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ldepanian
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USA
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Posted - 14/06/2008 :  17:11:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi... I'm looking for information on the family of Bertha JENSEN.

The information I currently have is based on a combination of census data, marriage & death records.

She was likely born in Christiana in Oct. ca. 1858 (place is from her death information)
Her father's name was Nikolai and her mother's name was Helene. (from her marriage record)
She married Peter Nils Peterson in Chelsea, Massachusetts in 1889.

I've search in the Norwegian Census data( http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/folketellinger_e.aspx) and can not seem to find any variation of the name Bertha listed with either parent who's name might some variation of Nikolai and Helene.

Is there someone who might point me in the right direction, or give me some addtional advice on where to go next?

Thanks,
Linda

Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2008 :  20:33:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are the 1900 censuses for Norway, right on top you can search for persons or farms.
Use always contains if you are not 100% sure how a named is spelled, or
use start with, then
start with one or two letteres to see how a name is spelled, always remember names can change from parish to parish and Bertha can also be spelled Berta.
Nicolai can be Spelled Nikolai, and both names can end on ...lay, so for Nicolai I would use contains...ola.. and then choose in the alphabetic list coming up after Submit.

Awful many parishs:

Good luck.

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 15/06/2008 00:08:26
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 14/06/2008 :  23:32:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I believe she says that she has already searched the 1900-census.

Jan Peter
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ldepanian
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USA
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Posted - 15/06/2008 :  14:21:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Kare...

Thank you for the suggestion. However, she was married in Massachusetts in 1889 so she wouldn't be listed in the 1900 census returns for Norway as she would have emigrated before that census was taken.

I did look in the 1865 & 1875 census returns though... and either I'm just not doing it right or the information Bertha gave her family is wrong (which isn't too likely for it to be so far off).

Thank you for looking though....
Linda
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 15/06/2008 :  14:29:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How come she was Bertha Jensen when her father was Nikolai - would she not be Bertha Nikolaisdatter - or was her father Nikolai Jensen?
Did her parents stay in Norway or did they emigrate as well?

Einar
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ldepanian
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USA
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Posted - 15/06/2008 :  15:18:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi eibache... yes, that's a question we don't know the answer to. The earliest source record I have is her marriage certificate and it shows her maiden name as Jensen, but her father is definitely listed as Nikolai and her mother is listed as Helene - no last name is provided. While I'm still in the beginings of learning Norweigan research, I did know that the customary naming conventions would have assumed that if her last name was Jensen, then her father's name should have been Jen or Jens.... is that correct? And if so, then wouldn't her last name have then been Jensdatter?

From what I've been able to read, there seems to have been some move away from those naming conventions around the 1850's... but I certainly don't know enough about the subject for any degree of certainty.

Bertha is my husbands g. grandmother and I've had several conversations with my mother in law who has very clear and loving memories of her. So any help or direction I could get would be very much appreciated..... my mother in law is now 87 years old and she'd so love to learn more.

Thank you... Linda
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ldepanian
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Posted - 15/06/2008 :  15:23:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To answer the other part of your question about her parents emigration... we have every reason to believe that they stayed in Norway.
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hasto
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Norway
294 Posts

Posted - 31/03/2011 :  18:56:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No good match, but perhaps -
Nikolaus Antonius Jeckel (27) from Meppen, Hannover, married to Helene Larsdatter (24) from Vestre Toten, in Oslo 15 oct 1852
The German surname sounds like "devil" in Norwegian, so they might have changed it to a more ordinary Jensen.
I find no trace of them in Oslo 1865 census. They probably emigrated soon after marriage, because they are in Chicago 1880 census, with two children Josephine (23) and Anton (19) born in US. No sign of Bertha -

Harald S Storaker
4586 Korshamn, Norge
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