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Peter Lee
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 Posted - 03/01/2009 : 18:27:45
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From information obtained from a Kinship Center in Sweden, this family of four (Jons and Marit with children Peter Johan and Kerstin) left Varmland Sweden to board the Statsraad Brock in May 1869. I am assuming the information here is different from that of the Kinship Center. I would like to verify that they were on the ship, and any other detail that may exist from the passenger list. Eventually they changed their name to Hedberg, we do not know when or why, so I am curious what name was used on boarding.
Thanks very much, Peter Lee |
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eibache
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Posted - 04/01/2009 : 10:44:04
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Assuming the names are Jens Jensen and Marit, with two children Peder and Kirstin, they were emigrants from Fryxende Sweden, see here
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Peter Lee
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Posted - 04/01/2009 : 18:44:17
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Thank you so much for your help.
No doubt that this is them, I am certain what we have noted as Fryksande Parish is Fryxende in the records, so this confirms their boarding of the ship and that the name change to Hedberg had yet to happen. A few follow-up questions if I may.
1. In general I can glean sex, age, adult, child etc. from the records. Is there any information in there that a non-norwegian speaker / reader might miss that might be noteworthy?
2. One thing I am trying to track down is the possibility that Marit may have had a child shortly after arriving in Minnesota. While I would be amazed, I must ask, is there any information regarding pregnancy?
3. Nr. with letters seems to indicate those traveling together. Is 910A through 910E one family unit? If so, this is news to us, as we had no record of a grandmother traveling with them. Am I reading this correctly?
Thank you so much! |
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Borge
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Posted - 07/01/2009 : 11:30:42
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Originally posted by Peter Lee
1. In general I can glean sex, age, adult, child etc. from the records. Is there any information in there that a non-norwegian speaker / reader might miss that might be noteworthy?
2. One thing I am trying to track down is the possibility that Marit may have had a child shortly after arriving in Minnesota. While I would be amazed, I must ask, is there any information regarding pregnancy?
3. Nr. with letters seems to indicate those traveling together. Is 910A through 910E one family unit? If so, this is news to us, as we had no record of a grandmother traveling with them. Am I reading this correctly?
I think you figured out most of it. You can also see the name of the ship they went on from Christiania (Oslo) to Quebec, the sailing vessel Statsraad Brock. You can also see how much they had to pay for the ticket, Spd. 118,90 , which was for the group together. It is also interesting to notice that there were at least 3 groups from Fryxende traveling together to the same destination. There were 6 persons in the group with your family, did you miss 910F? If you look at the heading of the table, there is a button saying "Neste" which will let you see the next page with more persons. If you make a new search for persons living in Fryxende (field A Bustad) ,and select "inneheld" in field B, then enter "Fryxende", you will get some interesting information about others from the same place emigrating via Christiania. Did you find Marie Nielsdatter Hagberg traveling from Fryxende to Milwauce in 1870, with Maria Jønsdatter and two small girls on the Nordlyset? All in all I found 65 persons from Fryxende in the records. |
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Peter Lee
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Posted - 07/01/2009 : 19:02:12
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Yes, I missed 910 F.
Was the Hagberg reference because of my asking about Hedberg? I do not believe there is a connection, although where Hedberg eventually came from is pretty much a mystery. By the time they were "Received" in the Stockholm Township Church roughly 3 years later, they were listed as Jons Jonsson Hedberg. I believe there were already other Jons Jonssons in the area, and it may have been nothing more than practicality. It would be fun to know where Hedberg came from, though.
Thanks for the help. |
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Borge
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Posted - 07/01/2009 : 19:28:55
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Originally posted by Peter Lee
Was the Hagberg reference because of my asking about Hedberg?
It would be fun to know where Hedberg came from, though.
Yes the reference was due to the names being very similar, and it could have been a typo in the transcription. I am sure those persons were going to meet with someone who had gone in advance, they were from the same place, going to the same destination. Could be worth checking out.
Here is a link to a Google map showing where the name might originate from.
Probably a blind track.
Have you seen this reference the family genealogy from the Värmlands Museum:
Hedberg, Jonas, Överstelöjtnant
Släktbok över Värmlandssläkten Hedberg. Biografier, foton m.m., 5 volymer |
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Hopkins
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Posted - 07/01/2009 : 20:09:42
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Hedberg (or a spelling variation of that) is likely to be the name of a farm in Fryksande parish, Varmland, Sweden. Quick study of the Fryksande church records for "Household Survey" would seem the easiest way to determine if that is where the family previously resided and chose the name to later adopt.
Those parish records are available on LDS microfilm. |
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Peter Lee
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Jons and Marit Jonsson (Hedberg?)
