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Don Hagen
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 Posted - 19/01/2009 : 17:31:51
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I'm trying to determine the name of the ship my paternal grandmother, Julia Christina Williamson, took to America.
Her name is given in the 1900 Census as Gurine Kristine Velhelmsdatter, on the Haug farm, near Tysse, Samnanger. She was the youngest daughter of Velhelm Knudtsen (1830 - ?) and Gunille Axelsdatter (1847 - ?).
My grandmother was born on 3 Dec 1888, so she would have been about 17 when she immigrated, I believe, in 1905. She settled in Grundy/Kendall Counties, in Illinois, married Thomas Elias Hagen prior to 1912.
Thanks much for your help! |
Don Hagen
Washington, DC |
Edited by - Don Hagen on 19/01/2009 17:33:14 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 19/01/2009 : 18:08:21
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Gurine Kristine Vilhelmsdatter emigrated from Haug in Os parish and went with Scand-American Line Mai 1905, no shipname mentioned, most likley someone here could help you to find the name of the ship.
Kåre
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Edited by - Kåarto on 19/01/2009 18:20:20 |
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Borge
Veteran Moderator
Norway
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Posted - 19/01/2009 : 18:54:19
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As you can see from the link Kåre provided to the Digital archive, they left Bergen May 1, and had tickets with the Scandinavian America Line.
Checking the route for this line on this web site show a departure from Kristiania (Oslo) for the S/S United States on May 4, with arrival in New York in the morning of May 16. They would probably have gone from Bergen to Kristiansand or Kristiania by a coastal steamer to board the ship. The departure from Kristiansand was usually one day later then from Kristiania, so it would have been May 5 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 19/01/2009 : 20:06:09
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Yepp. 
The ship The United States left Christiania on May 4th, 1905.
Gurine Vilhelmsen Haug (transcribed as Gwine Urine Vilhelmsur Kaug) (17y 4m) from Tosse Norway arrived New York on May 16th, 1905 on that ship.
Her destination was brother Farmer Thore Wiliams (?) in Newark, Ill. He also paid for the ticket.
Original manifest (#13)
Jan Peter
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Edited by - jwiborg on 19/01/2009 20:22:31 |
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Don Hagen
Starting member
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Posted - 19/01/2009 : 22:05:44
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Thanks much, Kåre, Borge and jwiborg. This is really wonderful information that you've provided, and I appreciate it.
It looks to me as if my grandmother's name is listed as Haug Gurine Vilhelmsen on the manifest. The farmer brother's name she gave was Torgels (americanized as Thom) Velhelmsen (americanized as Williams[on]), who obviously came to America before her.
A question about the manifest, please. I thought my grandmother was from Tysse, Samnanger, the farm named Haug. Perhaps the ship's manifest should say Tysse instead of Tosse? It appears that Tosse is much farther north, not in Samnanger. Her parents' marriage record (3 July 1870, Samnanger i Samnanger parish register, Page 70, Record No. 5) does suggest that her father, Velhelm Knudtsen, may have come from the farm Tosse/Tasse, but it seems unlikely that my grandmother, at age 17, would have given this as her last residence. Thoughts?
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 19/01/2009 : 22:26:41
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It was your grandmothers father Wilhelm who was from farm Tøsse (Tysse), her mother was from Haug, see wedding record from July 3. 1870:
Bachelor Wilhelm Knudsen, Sailor, born and place of living; Tøsse, age 40 married Gunhilde Akselsdatter born and place of living; Haug, age 21 #10
Tøsse ytter (outer) in Samnanger sub parish in Os, Wilhelm (Villum), seaman, parents and two sisters in 1865 on Tysse
Wilhelm was christened Willum named after his mother´s father Willum Nielsen Tøsland (Tysland), born Jan. 28. 1831, born Dec. 1830 to Knud Rasmussen and Lisbet Willumsdatter Tøsse #1.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 20/01/2009 07:32:34 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/01/2009 : 23:08:03
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Originally posted by Don Hagen
It looks to me as if my grandmother's name is listed as Haug Gurine Vilhelmsen on the manifest.
Yes, but the farmname is written first, as it is with the other passengers as well. So her name should be read as Gurine Vilhelmsen Haug.
And yes, she is from Tysse township in Samnanger municipality, Hordaland county. 30 km east of Bergen.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 19/01/2009 23:33:10 |
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Don Hagen
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Posted - 20/01/2009 : 00:31:06
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Thank you, Kåre and Jan!
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Don Hagen
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/01/2009 : 06:58:13
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You may have seen the 1900 and 1865 censuses clarifying who came from the different farm, if not this is 1900
and this is 1865
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 20/01/2009 : 07:38:21
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Have you ever been to Norway and Os and seen Hauge and Tysse Dave?
If not and you are interested we can try to bring up more records for you.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 20/01/2009 : 20:08:33
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Two more records for Gurine Kristine Vilhelmsdatter Haug is #36 for confirmation
says she was both born at Haug and was living at Haug Oct 11 1903 and the other 1905 #10 for udflyttede she moved to Bergen (not Amerika) in April. (both her birth year and confirmation date is wrong here)
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Edited by - eibache on 20/01/2009 20:12:50 |
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Don Hagen
Starting member
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Posted - 20/01/2009 : 21:20:58
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Thank you, eibache, for uncovering these two records.
I agree that the udflyttede has an incorrect birth date for my grandmother -- it should be 1888, not 1880. Perhaps the Hvorhen noted
on this document simply means that she went to Bergen to board the vessel that would take her to the port (Kristiansand) to board
the SS United States for America on May 5? Or is it more likely that she would have traveled over land to Kristiana (Oslo) for the
May 4 departure of this ship? |
Don Hagen
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Grandmother's Ship?
