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lindgrpa
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 Posted - 29/07/2009 : 15:16:15
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I have been having a hard time finding out where Peder Pedersen Grotaasen's second wife came from. I located Marit Olsdatter, born 1761, in the 1801 census on Digitalarkivet. However, there is no indication of which parish she was baptized in. I'm not sure that I know how to operate the options available for the 1801 census. Is there a button that will tell me where she was baptized or which farm she came from?
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I have located four Marit Olesdatters that were born in Sondre Land in 1761 on the Mormon website at FamilySearch.org. However, that only gives parents' patronymics and no farm either. I wrote to the Statsarkivet and they had no luck trying to find out where Marit originally came from either. They did identify godparents for her oldest child's baptism: Joen Bierche, Niels Lien, and Taral and Guri Valhovd.
My goal is to try to find: (1) her parents, and (2) her location in a bygdebok. Any help would be appreciated. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/07/2009 : 19:48:56
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Marit Olsdatter was the mother of Ingebor bapt March 11 1797.
Peders mother was also Marit Olsdatter, he was bapt Nov 8 1793.
Marit Olsdatter was also the mother of Marit bapt April 6 1789.
Did not find Berit bapt record, but Ole was bapt Dec 27 1781, his mother was Marit Jonsdatter? (difficult to read)
Did not find marriage record, could have given some clues. |
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 30/07/2009 07:17:50 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/07/2009 : 23:38:53
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Here is the engagement reord for 1779, no farm name for Marit Olsdatter, left page 6. from bottom here:
Peder Pedersen Grøtaasen
og (and)
Marit Olsdr.
Grøtaasen, Grøt comes from old norse Grjøt n and means Stein/Stone and aasen means hillside.
Perhaps only the Bygdebooks from Land can tell where she came from, not online.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 29/07/2009 23:39:59 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/07/2009 : 06:56:18
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It is very doubtful if this is the engagement to Peders second wife. I do not read this as Marit Olsdatter - looks more like Marit Joensdatter to me. Compare the writing with the next couple "Johans Larsen" and also the next couple "Eli Olsdatter".
The date by the way is 18th p Trin = Oct 3 1779 and in Torpen.
Peder was also a soldier, not a widower. |
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 30/07/2009 10:38:50 |
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eibache
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Posted - 30/07/2009 : 07:37:35
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They did identify godparents for her oldest child's baptism: Joen Bierche, Niels Lien, and Taral and Guri Valhovd.
If this was the first child of Peder Pedersen and Marit Olsdatter you will find the bapt record on the right page - 3rd record from bottom here
the first childs name was Peder bapt Sept 19 1784 - should have been 17 years at the 1801 census, but there we find Berit 16 years! |
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KnudsonFamily
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Posted - 30/07/2009 : 09:29:12
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Engagement Peder & Marit Olsdatter 1784
I take it the Engagement record Kåre had was from the first marriage (matches Berit's Ole's mother name)
1801 Census Marit Olsdatter
Correction: I found the record about 2:30AM. When I glanced up at Eibache's first post to this message, I grabbed at the Berit. I searched for records between Ole's birth in 1781 and Peder's in 1784 assuming the same parish) |
Edited by - KnudsonFamily on 30/07/2009 18:12:12 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/07/2009 : 09:57:24
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Mary,
Exactly where do you find the engagement Peder Pedersen and Marit Olsdatter?
Where have you found Berits mothers name?
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Edited by - eibache on 30/07/2009 09:59:09 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/07/2009 : 10:14:49
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the first childs name was Peder bapt Sept 19 1784
- this Peder died after some weeks in 1784, see 5th record.
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Edited by - eibache on 30/07/2009 10:35:40 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/07/2009 : 12:21:35
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A quick search in the bygdebok reveals that Peder Pedersens first wife was Marit Jonsdatter, Grøtaasen (1757 - 1782), (Peder (1751 - 1829) came from Skjørlia) and their only child was Ole (1780). Peder was married the second time in 1783. (no record is found in Land and no parents or farm given for Marit Olsdatter.)
The children of the 2nd marriage was
Peder (1784 - 1784)
Berte (1785 - baptized at home)
Marte (1790)
Peder (1793)
Anne (1797)
Peder Pedersens parents were Peder Kristensen Bratteng in Snertingdal and Guri Jørgensdatter Skjørlia.
Guri Jørgensdatter was the daughter of Jørgen Jakobsen and Mari Olsdatter Skjørlia.
Mari Olsdatters parents were Ole Østensen and Lucia Nilsdatter. |
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 30/07/2009 12:23:03 |
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lindgrpa
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Posted - 30/07/2009 : 13:48:46
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You are right. Marit Olsdatter was the second wife. Marit Jonsdatter was the first wife and she came from Felle
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Originally posted by eibache
It is very doubtful if this is the engagement to Peders second wife. I do not read this as Marit Olsdatter - looks more like Marit Joensdatter to me. Compare the writing with the next couple "Johans Larsen" and also the next couple "Eli Olsdatter".
The date by the way is 18th p Trin = Oct 3 1779 and in Torpen.
Peder was also a soldier, not a widower.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/07/2009 : 17:55:51
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Ole Botholfsen and Mai Østensdatter from Felde baptized their Marit Aug 10 1760, see record at bottom of left page
If it is right that your Marit Olsdatter came from Felle (Felde) this must be the one you are seeking parents for. |
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lindgrpa
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Posted - 30/07/2009 : 18:51:59
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Thank you very much. I will have to follow this through, but it seems like a promising start. Just a clarification, I didn't say Marit Olsdatter came from Felle, but rather the first wife Marit Jonsdatter. However, it has been my experience that the second wife often comes from the same place as the first wife, so I will definitely check this out. This is a better clue than I have had for 20 years.
Pat
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Originally posted by eibache
Ole Botholfsen and Mai Østensdatter from Felde baptized their Marit Aug 10 1760, see record at bottom of left page
If it is right that your Marit Olsdatter came from Felle (Felde) this must be the one you are seeking parents for.
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eibache
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Posted - 30/07/2009 : 20:25:08
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Small misunderstanding on my part regarding which Marit came from Felle. My proposal then can only based on the fact that Marit Olsdatter was born 1760 - 1761 (she was 40 years in the 1801 census) and there were more than 1 Marit Olsdatter born in Land during that periode.
I have to correct you on Marit Joensdatters birth, it was at Grøtaasen, she was baptized March 13 1757, see right page 4th record her parents were Joen Amundsen and Ragnild Olsdatter fra Grøtaasen.
In "the bygdebok" it says that Joen and Ragnild came from Sæter under Felle where they lived 1745-1755. From 1755 - 82 they lived at Grøtaasen. |
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Edited by - eibache on 30/07/2009 20:30:20 |
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Marit Olsdtr, 1801 cens Grotaasen farm Nordre Land
