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Shirley Terrill
Junior member
New Zealand
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 Posted - 31/12/2009 : 09:40:29
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Hi
I have run out of ideas trying to trace my gg grandparents, I have plenty of info on them,their parents etc but have lost them both for a 12 year gap.The family has been told that Nils was a royal soldier and Anne was a cook at the royal palace.
We have been unable to find any trace for the years 1855 - 67.
Nils Anderson born 25/9/1835 Rygge parish, confimed Rygge 25/7/1852 then in 1855 in Moss is god parent to Even Olsen, his brother Oles son.
1867 next shows up in Oslo with the birth of his son Axel 25/9/1867(have hospital records) 16/3/1869 Harald born Gamle Aker Kirkr records, 31/10/1871 Valborg born Gamle Aker records and Gamle Aker Kirke marriage - 84 30/9/1870.
Anne Hansdtr born 1/4/1837 in Eidskog confirmed 1855 Vinger parish records then shows up withthe birth of Axel in 1867 in Oslo. We know they lived in Damstredent and Dops Gate in Oslo between 1867 - 72 when they emigrated to New Zealand.
The 12 year gap is a struggle to find them, any ideas would be helpful. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 31/12/2009 : 11:36:08
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Hi,
it is difficult to track people in Oslo since the majority rented houses. Because of that none of theses are listed in the Property Register.
I can provide the pictures and some information on the two streets they lived in.
Damstredet (stredet, old norse name, means a narrow street) still exisit, see here
Dops gate (Dops street) is located to central Oslo not fare from Damstredet, see here
Dops gate is rare name and the name plate is often "taken" as souvernirs.
A photo of Dops gate 7.
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Shirley Terrill
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 31/12/2009 : 12:11:01
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Hi Kaarto
When Dad and I were in Oslo in July, the archives gave us the info and a map and we visited the 2 streets and Gamle Aker Kirke. Damstredet is a lovely street and it was a strange feeling to stand in the church where they were married.I took many photos. I think they rented the house's and Nils shows as a "beer driver". |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 31/12/2009 : 15:17:19
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Hi, just wondering if you know this thread
http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4456
or what is the connection between you two.
Is you info comming from the answers to that thread and the e-mails I have sent in connection with my work with it?
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Nils Anderson born 25/9/1835 Rygge parish,
- small correction, Niels was born Oct 7 1835 and baptized Oct 25, see #33
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Edited by - eibache on 31/12/2009 17:19:27 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 31/12/2009 : 17:08:54
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I understand it must have been a strange feeling standing in the same church your ancestors married so many years ago.
Damstredet is one of the few places that have been preserved from the old Oslo.
Last summer was rather wet in eastern Norway.
These days with tempratures from minus 15-33 C in parts of Norway the power meter has busy times.
Happy New Year.
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Shirley Terrill
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 01/01/2010 : 03:22:23
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Originally posted by eibache
Hi, just wondering if you know this thread
http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4456
or what is the connection between you two.
Is you info comming from the answers to that thread and the e-mails I have sent in connection with my work with it?
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Nils Anderson born 25/9/1835 Rygge parish,
- small correction, Niels was born Oct 7 1835 and baptized Oct 25, see #33
Hi
Yes Nils was born 7th put wrong date, The thread is a cousin I didnt know about untill after he posted,he had been given the info we had prior to us going to Norway by another branch of family. We now in contact to update one another.We have had alsorts of contact from family who all know the story about Nils being a royal gaurd and Anne being a cook in the palace, but as yet still no one has traced the 12 year gap. Could they have been with the royal family in Sweden?
Shirley |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 01/01/2010 : 13:13:50
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Hi.
You are right that the Guard served in Sweden.
The current Norwegian Guard was created 1856 and consisted of 100 enlisted soldiers from "Jæger-korpset" Huntsmen corps, serving in Stockholm.
The Gurds main task was courier service betweeen Oslo and Stockholm, but it also represented Norway at ceremonial occasions.
In 1866 the name was changed to " Hans Majestet Kongens Garde" His Majesty The King´s Guard.
In 1888 the Royal Guard was transferred to Oslo.
Source: Norwegian pages that are more complete, see English pages here
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 01/01/2010 : 16:24:52
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We know they lived in Damstredent and Dops Gate in Oslo between 1867 - 72 when they emigrated to New Zealand
- would be interesting to have the evidence you have for this. |
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Shirley Terrill
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 01/01/2010 : 20:22:44
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Hi
I have sent you parts of emails
about info was passed onto me via lady at archives at library in Oslo, all records from Gamle Aker Kirke. In those days Dops gate was known as Krogen.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=594&idx_id=594&uid=ny&idx_side=-292
The Gamle Aker church is the oldest building in Oslo from around 1100 I seem to remember. It is very much worth visiting.
Valborg Johanne was born on the 31st October 1871 and baptized on the 21st April 1872.
Valborg Johanne is no. 111 in the records. Parents are Niels Andersen and his wife Anne Hansen, their address is Krogen 9. Niels Andersen is of occucpation ølkjører = beer driver. So he is working for a brewery.
And here is the marriage in the records of Gamle Aker 1865-1873:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=595&idx_id=595&uid=ny&idx_side=-217
Niels and Anne were married on the 30th October 1870 in Gamle Aker church. (Marriage no. 84)
Shirley
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 01/01/2010 : 23:04:23
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Thank you for the information that you have from the "Ministerialbok" - in the other topic I refered to I used the "Klokkerbok".
Baptismal record for Valborg Johanne (1872):
#111 Krogen 9
#107 Bergfjerdingen 9
Marriage record (1870):
#84 Damstrædet
#84 Krogen 9
Baptismal record for Harald Nilius (1869):
#335 Krogen 10
#332 Krogen 10.
Batismal record for Axel Fredrik (1867):
#39 no address
Birth record from: National Hospital and the Women's Clinic (Birth Foundation)
(At the highest resolution of 21.03. and 17.06.1817 it was decided to create a temporary birth Foundation in association with the civil hospital in Christiania. The purpose of the foundation should be twofold: to provide birth assistance to unmarried and poor mothers and to provide training in the science of birth to the doctors and midwives.) |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 02/01/2010 : 00:47:57
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Niels parents Anders Olsen, Kihl (29 years) and Hellene Jensdatter (25 years) married in Raade Febr 8 1819, see #65.
Niels oldest brother was Jørgen, born at Kihl in Raade June 17 1821, see #20.
A sister Elen Mathea was born Oct 10 1823, see #41.
Brother Ole was born March 26 1826, see #21.
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Shirley Terrill
Junior member
New Zealand
55 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2010 : 03:56:37
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Hi
Thanks for taking all that time to send me all links. I have all these records apart from Valborg 107 Bergfjerdingen 9. Nils parents,siblings etc have all info and records.
The only outstanding mystery is the 12 year gap 1855-67 in which still no trace of Nils and Anne.
Thanks again |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 02/01/2010 : 15:35:13
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When Anders Olsen, Niels father moved from Raade in 1830 he said he was going to Moss to seek work. It is noted that he was born on "Artilleri Qvarteret" (Artillery Quarter) Bjerketvedt in Svenddal, see #1.
(It is not always easy to see the topics you have in connection with each other - ref you ??soldat in this topic)
Same Anders Olsen!
In the record for moving in to Moss there is more info, he was a servant for Oldermann (master of a guild) Boug, see #15.
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