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Sidney
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Posted - 19/02/2010 :  00:42:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where do I find the above passenger list?

AntonH
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Posted - 19/02/2010 :  01:51:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you are referring to the last trip the Norge made in which it actually made it to New York, Ancestry.com has the passenger list for the Norge in 1904. It appears that the last list would be the 16 May 1904 list. Ancestry.com only pulls up all the passengers from the year. Thus in 1904 there are 895 passengers listed most of them from the 16 May 1904 trip although there are some passengers from 21 March and 3 Feb . Here is an example of what you would see.

Name: Sevein Abrahamsen
Arrival Date: 16 May 1904
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Christianssand, Norway
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Scandinavian
Ship Name: Norge
Search Ship Database: View the Norge in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 4
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_458
Page Number: 131

Ancestry.com is a subscripton site.

If you are referring to the trip in which the Norge sunk that might be more difficult.

Edited by - AntonH on 19/02/2010 01:58:20
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/02/2010 :  02:04:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This would appear to be the Passenger list for the S. S. Norge for 28.6.1904 which is the last trip.

http://home.online.no/~fndbadm/norpas.htm
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 19/02/2010 :  02:17:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

The Norwegian digitalarkivert has this database:

Bjørn Davidsen: Passasjer- og mannskap på D/S Norge 28/06/1904

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=NORGEP&spraak=e&metanr=2362


Jackie M.
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Sidney
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Denmark
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Posted - 19/02/2010 :  09:00:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lyndal40:
Thank you, but as you mention, its a subscription site, and as it is, I only need this on "look".
Would you bee so kind as to look my great aunt up for me?

Eleonora Laurette Petrine Nielsen born 1880 in Denmark.

I'm looking anywhere, as I know she has been visiting several times, but disappear in and around the date where Norge goes down.

jkmarler:
thank you, Ill bee looking in to this one as well.
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Sidney
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Posted - 19/02/2010 :  09:21:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
jkmarler:
I have a problem, there is only 289 passengers and crew on this list, but I know that there was at least 800 passengers and crew on board this fatal day. ???Do you know why this is?
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 19/02/2010 :  15:23:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Searching Ancestry.com under Eleonora Nielsen turns up the following

Name: Eleonora Nielsen
Arrival Date: 20 Aug 1912
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Age: 30
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Copenhagen
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Scandinavian
Ship Name: Hellig Olav
Search Ship Database: View the Hellig Olav in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
NATIVITY: Denmark
Line: 7
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_1917
Birth Location: Denmark
Birth Location Other: odense
Page Number: 48
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/02/2010 :  15:26:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The search also turned up the following

Name: Eleonora Nielsen
Arrival Date: 6 Sep 1911
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Copenhagen
Ship Name: United States
Search Ship Database: Search the United States in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
NATIVITY: United States of America
Line: 4
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_1733
Birth Location: United States of America
Page Number: 16
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 19/02/2010 :  15:49:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Searching under Nielsen born 1880 +/- 2 immigration 1904 +/- 2 and female turns up 373 names none even close to Eleonora Laurette Petrine Nielsen.

Changing the name to Eleonora and dropping the Nielsen turns up 114 names, none close to Nielsen.

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jkmarler
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USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2010 :  18:49:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Sidney,

Yes, curious. If you go to www.genealogybank.com in their historical newspaper section and put in s.s. norge to search in 1904, the headline of one article comes up as "646 Lost On Lives...." Not sure why the database has only 289 names. That might be something to contact the Digitalarkivet folks regarding. And you may want the full article to see if a list of names is provided. The site has a temporary 30 day membership for about $10....

Hilsen,
Jackie M.

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Sidney
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Denmark
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Posted - 20/02/2010 :  18:55:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am not sure that I understand what is going on here.
You are looking for a Eleonora Nielsen born 1878 and 1882, witch is 2 years from my great aunt.
I know that she has been in America at least 3 times and I have found here one of these times myself.
The list you refer to is incomplete, they are not even alike(I found several on the one list that were not on the other list.
I suppose that I need to look somewhere else for help to find here, - but thank you for your effort anyway.

regards
Sidney
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Borge
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Norway
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Posted - 20/02/2010 :  19:49:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Short answer to your question: nowhere

The common passenger lists we usually to look through when searching for emigrants were created and filed when the ships arrived the destination, in this case New York. As the ship never made it there you will not find any actual passenger list. You might find that other persons have researched a multitude of other sources to collect information with the aim of reconstructing a list of persons who were on the ship when it went down. For Danish emigrants the first place to look would be the Danish emigration archives (online!), then the contemporary newspapers or even better the official reports.

What is actually going on here at the Norway Heritage forum right now is that several person are trying to help you find some hard to get information, not too bad is it?

Børge Solem
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Sidney
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Posted - 21/02/2010 :  08:58:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Undskyld Børge,
Det var ikke for at genere nogen, men blot give luft for mine frustrationer over at jeg ikke kan finde denne ene lille brik i mit efterhånden store puslespil.
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