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Lester Hanson
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 Posted - 10/03/2010 : 18:05:08
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I have found Guri in the 1801 census, which includes her husband and children. Which I have included for reference. See1801 census
I have found two possible Guri birth records, but the Gothic Flemish type writing makes it difficult to read.
POI #1 Guri Erichsdtr? Birth record. b. 16 Apr 1769, page 289, 2nd entry. See:Guri #1
POI #2 Guri Erichsdtr? Birth record. b. 10 Dec. 1769. Page 298, 1st entry, 2nd page. See: Guri #2
I think she is the second one, am I right?
Les |
Edited by - Lester Hanson on 10/03/2010 19:02:46 |
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eibache
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Posted - 10/03/2010 : 22:38:03
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Something does not add up, in the 1801 census Henrich Tostensen, Øvrejorde were married to Guri Erichsdtr, they had a son Tosten, he was born 1791, the parents were most likely married 1790, see 6th couple on right page, it is Henrich Tostensen, Øvrejorde but he married Birgith Erichsdtr Werpe - not Guri.
The parents of Tosten however is Henrich Tostensen, Øvrejorde and Guri Erichsdtr, see 3rd from bottom of right page |
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Edited by - eibache on 11/03/2010 09:40:37 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/03/2010 : 22:42:29
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Hi Lester,
Close, but no cigar!
The transcribed, typescript version of the Aal church registers by the late Botolv Baklien has no Guri Ericksdatter born/baptized in 1769. The two Guris you found are in the transcription but with different father's names.
However, in Reinton's Folk og Fortid i Hol, Volume VII, page 141 (under the Verpe farm) it says this about Guri:
"(Guri i KB ved feilskriving kalla Sigrid.)"
So the entry above your choice number 1 has been found by other expert researchers from Hol to be the one which relates to your Guri.
By the by, the handwriting is probably not a Gothic, nor a Flemish but probably some form of chancery cursive.
Hilsen,
Jackie M.
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eibache
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Posted - 11/03/2010 : 09:53:46
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Parents of Ingeborg was also Henrich Tostensen and Guri Erichsdtr Øvrejorde, see #34
Margith has the same parents, see #4
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Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 11/03/2010 09:57:46 |
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eibache
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Posted - 11/03/2010 : 11:23:13
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From what I see your Guri = Sigrid = Birgith?
A real Sigrid was baptized Dec 15 1771, see top of left page
A brothe Knud was baptized Aug 6 1775, see #2 on lower part of left page.
Parents Erich Knudsen Werpe and Margith Tollevsdatter.
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Edited by - eibache on 11/03/2010 15:51:58 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/03/2010 : 15:41:15
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Hi,
According to Volume VII, page 141 of Folk og Fortid i Hol, the children of Eirick Knutson Nedrejorde--Verpe and his 2nd wife Margit Tolleivsdatter Hallsteinsgard are these:
1. Knut dpt. 7/2/1768, visstnok d. liten.
2. Guri Eiriksdtr dpt 2/4/1769 d. 12/5/1817 (49 aar gl.)g 1790 m Henrik Torsteinson Oevrejorde f 1760 (and then the note about the mistake on her name)
3. Sigrid Eiriksdtr f. 1771 (dpt. 15 / 12/ s. aar)d. 4/6/1848 g 1794 m enkjemann Ola Ellingson Villand--Dokken f. 1762 d. 7/3/1824 (sjaa Rue og Dokken i Hol IV)
4. Knut Eirikson f. 1775
#4 child "got" the Verpe farm in 1791.
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eibache
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Posted - 11/03/2010 : 15:53:02
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| Who can explain where the Birgith from the marriage record fit into the picture? |
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Lester Hanson
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Posted - 11/03/2010 : 16:13:20
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I was thinking Guri was his second wife, and the census record should have read 2 marriages for Henrich. I have not been able to find a death record for Guri.
After reviewing everything thats been found, it is still a puzzle.
Les |
Edited by - Lester Hanson on 11/03/2010 16:37:27 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/03/2010 : 16:21:12
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Hi,
Could it be that Guri got no respect?
I checked the text about Eirik and found no illegitimates of his discussed in the Verpe farm section. That is still a possibility as sometimes the illegitmate children of either partner in a marriage could be discussed in many places in the Holsboka (but most usually they are listed with the other children of their parents.)
Could there be two Henrik Torstensons on Oevrejorde? Not in the same family as the Henrik T who married Guri Eiriksdtr Verpe, according to Volume IV, page 186-189 Holsboka. The other possibility is that there was a "rogue" Henrik Torsteinson on Oevrejorde at the time he married. The second marriage idea is not endorsed in Holsboka IV.
As a source for the information about Erik Knutson Verpe's family Volume VII page 139 says this:
"Om aetta til Eirik finn vi ein del i skft. etter Ola Sveinson og Gro Knutsdtr Myrekvarvbakkane 6/8 1808-14/2 1809, og i Oevrejorssoga."
Obviously the marriage record you linked above was unlikely to have been written as the marriages happened, since there are so many packed in that paragraph and no exact dates of transactions, so there is a possibility that the pastor or clerk misremembered or miswrote on Guri, again.
Lester you said you couldn't find Guri's death but here is the information, she is #16:
Source information: Buskerud county, Ål, Parish register (official) nr. I 4 (1815-1825), Death and burial records 1817, page 194-195.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8548&idx_id=8548&uid=ny&idx_side=-101
Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070314660688.jpg
Hilsen,
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Edited by - jkmarler on 11/03/2010 17:54:53 |
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Lester Hanson
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Posted - 12/03/2010 : 16:21:47
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I greatly appreciate all your help. I like the explanation the priest probably made a mistake and wrote her marriage name wrong.
I found another birth record that is hard to read. I need help reading the parents name for: Henrich born 1760 2nd page.
It looks like Tosten Henricsen, Hoelres.
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eibache
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Posted - 12/03/2010 : 17:59:08
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| I read "Tosten Henriksen, Hoeles b: Henrich" |
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Looking for birth record of Guri Erichsdtr
