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Richard Tomaszewski
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USA
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 Posted - 11/04/2010 : 06:21:00
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| I am trying to find a record for David Nilsen leaving Norway and coming to America. Yesterday, as I was telling my aunt about the research I was doing, she asked if I have any records of her grandmothers brother, David Nilsen. From what my aunt told me, David was suposed to meet up with his sister Helma Kallerud (Nilsen) once he made the trip, but never heard from him again. I have a 1900 census of the family and there is no David listed. It could possibly be a middle name. According to the 1930 U.S. census Helma came over in 1922 although Ive never been able to find a record for that either, so if David was suposed to meet her when he arrived, it would have to be in 1922 or after. Can anyone help or have any ideas on how to find out what happened to him? |
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Richard Tomaszewski
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Posted - 11/04/2010 : 06:55:45
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| It is possible David was born in or after 1900 and thats why he's not listed in the census |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2010 : 17:18:36
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It is going to help if you can provide a little more information if you know it. The birth year of David, siblings, who he might have been going to meet or where, where in Norway they came from. All these things can help find an immigration record.
Searching Ancestry.com immigration records for example turns up several David Nilsens but it is hard to determine which one might be yours without more info. Here is one example of a David Nilsen arriving in 1924. The original manifest shows he is going to Benton Harbor Michigan to visit brother Ludvik Nilsen. He appears to be from Braaten, Nydalen, Norway. He is 29 years old. More information could exclude him or some of the others that show up.
Name: David Nilsen
Arrival Date: 29 Sep 1924
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Age: 29
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Kristiania,Nrw
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Ship Name: Stavangerfjord
Search Ship Database: Search the Stavangerfjord in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Birth Location: Nrw
Birth Location Other: v aker
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2010 : 17:33:36
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The same criteria would apply for your Helma Nilsen, although Helma is such an unusual name that when Ancestry.com is searched for Helma immigrating to the United States only two Nilsens come up. one arrriving in Canada in 1911 who I assume we can eliminate as arriving too early and this one. Listed as 31, hair dresser, from Tonsberg, mother Karoline Nielsen, bilet 22, Holmestrand, going to New York.
Name: Helma E Nielsen
Arrival Date: 4 Dec 1922
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Kristiania,Nrw
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Ship Name: Stavangerfjord
Search Ship Database: Search the Stavangerfjord in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 11/04/2010 : 18:21:39
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You should check the church records for the children of Rikard Nielsen & wife Karoline Olsdr., if any of them have a middle name David. He could also be born after the 1900-census, or he could have left the home and thus be recorded at another household. Helma listed above is also one of their children.
Some of the records:
Julie Amalie Nielsen, b 21 Apr 1880, chr 15 Aug 1880, Botne, Vestfold
Hermana Nieline Nielsen, b 03 Nov 1882, chr 13 May 1883, Botne, Vestfold
Herman Newton Nilsen, b 08 Nov 1884, chr 04 Oct 1885, Holmestrand, Vestfold
Ragna Karense Nilssen, b 24 Dec 1886, chr 12 Feb 1888, Holmestrand, Vestfold
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Richard Tomaszewski
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Posted - 11/04/2010 : 19:29:14
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I dont know Davids birth date, but the rest of his family are: Rikard Nilsen, father, Karoline Olsen, mother, and their children are Inga, Julie, Herman, Ragda, Helma (my great grandmother), Rikhard and Johanne. All names I got from the 1900 Holmestrand census.
Helma was in New York at the time and David was supposed to come through Ellis Island. lyndal40, you have the right immigration record for helma, she did arrive dec.4 1922 in New York.
jwiborg, is the birth record you wrote for hermana Nieline Nilsen part of Helmas family? I dont have a record of her, can you tell me how you know it belongs, I do have the other 3 people you listed |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 11/04/2010 : 19:34:50
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This is the family.
Helma Elises bapt record is #8.
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Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 11/04/2010 19:45:33 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2010 : 19:49:02
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Tomaszewski
jwiborg, is the birth record you wrote for hermana Nieline Nilsen part of Helmas family? I dont have a record of her, can you tell me how you know it belongs, I do have the other 3 people you listed
Yes, she is a sister. You should search the 1883/1884 Botne and Holmestrand church records to see if you can find her death record. Their next son Herman looks to be named after her.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 11/04/2010 19:50:00 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 11/04/2010 : 21:02:01
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Hermana Nieline is actually Hermana Nielsine, see #13.
She died Jan 1 1884, see #2.
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Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 11/04/2010 21:05:18 |
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Richard Tomaszewski
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Posted - 13/04/2010 : 07:01:35
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| I checked all the parish birth records and didnt find mention of a David Nilsen. there is a 3 year span between Ragnas birth and Helmas, between 1887 and 1890 i checked first since births are usually 2 years apart, then I searched from a year after Johanne was born in 1895 to 1900 which turned up nothing. It is still possible that Rickards b.1893 middle name was David, but there was no mention on his birth record. My Aunt did say she wasnt possitive the name was David, she just said she thinks it was. I did find the birth records of all the other siblings, which makes this all worth while. |
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Richard Tomaszewski
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Posted - 15/04/2010 : 05:48:13
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| has anyone seen a emmigration records for Helmas brother Rickard or any of the other siblings? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2010 : 22:43:29
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Do you have any further information on David Nielsen. Did such a person live in the United States and if so where did he live in say 1930 ie is he findable in the US Census.
Same goes for the siblings of Helma. Where did they live in the US and have you found them in any US documents such as the US Census. |
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Richard Tomaszewski
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Posted - 16/04/2010 : 01:47:38
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| I havent found anything that makes me believe the david nilsen records out there belong to my family. I've searched ancestry.com and found birth records for inga and julie nilsen, but no other kind of records. I have all the birth records for helma and her siblings, I'm just having a hard time finding death records for them and their parents because it's just searching year to year hoping I dont overlook it |
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peder
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