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Shelley OConnor
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New Zealand
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 Posted - 12/04/2010 : 10:07:29
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Hi
I'm trying to find info about Olive Olsen O'Connor, aka Oline Olsdatter. I think she was know as Lena also.
By all accounts she arrived in New Zealand 1872. I assume that she would have arrived in Lyttleton as she was married in Christchurch within about a year. Apparently her sister Alina (?) travelled with her too.
She married James O'Connor from County Kerry, Ireland, and they settled first in Southbridge, Canterbury, and then Chertsey, Canterbury.
I haven't had any luck finding her on ship lists for Lyttleton.
What I do know is that she was born in Elverum Norway on 14th October 1845.
On her death certificate her parents are named 'John and Martha Olsen', but I suspect that they are anglicised versions of those names.
If anyone could help me out with finding info about her ancestors in Norway, I would be truly grateful.
Kind regards
Shelley
Ps if anyone stumbles upon her in a shiplist, please let me know.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2010 : 12:44:48
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Elverum is located in Hedmark, Norway. The parish records for Elverum are available for research for years as early as 1729 and as late as about 1930.
We'd expect a girl born to a man named John in rural Norway in 1845 to have been known as Oline Johnsdatter - but if his patronymic name was Olsen then it is possible that she chose to use that when she arrived in New Zealand.
Online study material to learn about Norwegian naming practices and patterns.
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na12.html
http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/names.htm
http://www.norwayheritage.com/norwegian-names.htm
http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/farms.htm
The Digitalarkivet web site has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005.
The Digitalarkivet web site - http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar
An English option is available by clicking on that word from either the left hand column or the blue link bar along the bottom of the homepage.
The scanned images are available from the homepage link "Skanna kyrkjebĝker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] which is listed along the left hand column and from the blue banner of links along the top section of the homepage.
After you've clicked on that link and a new main page has presented on the screen be sure and read the instructions that are available from the Digitalarkivet for navigating the scanned records. The instructions are available in Bokmċl (official Norwegian), Nyorsk (Norwegian), Davvisámegiella (Saami), and English.
Recommended basic reading are the "Startsiden" [Norwegian version]/"Main page" [English version], "Brukerveiledning" [Norwegian version]/"User's guide" [English version] and "Om tjenesten" [Norwegian version]/"About this service" [English version].
Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 12/04/2010 : 15:38:04
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The only Oline Olsdatter to New Zealand in 1872 is 2965.
Have not found any Oline Olsdatter born Oct 14 1845 and christened in Elverum.
If the Oline being 24 years in 1872 when she was bound for New Zealand could be yours, correct parents names are essential since there are many Oline Olsdatter bapt in 1848 in Elverum. |
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Edited by - eibache on 12/04/2010 19:52:54 |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2010 : 23:30:24
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In Norway she was Oline Johnsdatter born to John Olsen and Martha (unknown lastname)
Lena was often a nickname for Oline.
Only the names correspond, for Elverum I have.
- Oline Johnsdatter (twin) b.Oct 4. bap. Dec. 30. 1850.
Parents; John Olsen and Marthe Knudsdatter, farm Lillebakken
- Oline Johnsdatter b. Jan 6. bap. April 13. 1846
Parents; John Olsen and Marthe Gulbrandsdatter, farm Lĝvbĉk.
The records for Elverum
Kċre |
Edited by - Kċarto on 12/04/2010 23:31:07 |
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Shelley OConnor
Starting member
New Zealand
14 Posts |
Posted - 13/04/2010 : 02:21:54
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Hi Kare
Just curious about Oline Johnsdatter (twin) b.Oct 4. bap. Dec. 30. 1850.
Parents; John Olsen and Marthe Knudsdatter, farm Lillebakken.
What was the name of the twin?
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 13/04/2010 : 10:01:37
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Hi Shelley.
The name of the twinbrother was Johan, see #140 and 141
Kċre |
Edited by - Kċarto on 13/04/2010 10:10:00 |
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Shelley OConnor
Starting member
New Zealand
14 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 06:01:54
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Hi
Thanks a lot. I'm going to hunt out the naturalisation records for Olive Olsen O'Connor, as being a European, I assume she would have gone through that process here. Perhaps that will clarify her name and date of birth.
Kind regards
Shelley |
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Shelley OConnor
Starting member
New Zealand
14 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 06:14:45
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Hi again
I have seen online that many Norwegians came to NZ via Hamburg or England (London, Gravesend etc.) Do you know if that effects their immigration regarding being listed as coming to NZ ie, would they been recorded as emigrating to England or Germany? Seems like a silly question as the answer would probably be no. But just thought I might throw that out there in case it is an avenue for investigation.
Thanks
Shelley |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 08:52:29
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Hi.
I have some emigrant routes for you via Germany and from Norway on ship Hĝvding, see here.
Could be Oline (Olive) emigrated as Johnsdatter (Johns daughter) and changed to Olsen in N.Z.
Here is a description for a family from Norway to New Zealand in 1872
New Zealand resources here
Kċre |
Edited by - Kċarto on 14/04/2010 08:57:33 |
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Shelley OConnor
Starting member
New Zealand
14 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 12:35:23
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| Thank you. You're so kind. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 15:39:10
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You are welcome.
If it was your Oline Olsdr. age 24 from Elverum, see 3. posting from top, who left from Oslo Mai 5. 1872 on ship St. Olaf, dest. was perhaps Hamburg, Germany.
Hamburg Mai 18. ship Friedeburg with emigrants sailed for Lyttelton arr. June 30.
Murray Lynn has the passenger list for Friedeburg, hopefully the adress still work, the info is from 2004.
Kċre |
Edited by - Kċarto on 14/04/2010 16:15:58 |
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Shelley OConnor
Starting member
New Zealand
14 Posts |
Posted - 22/04/2010 : 22:26:26
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| NB James O'Connor may have been James Connor. There is some confusion about the O. |
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Shelley OConnor
Starting member
New Zealand
14 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2011 : 01:44:29
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Hello
I thought I'd update this as new information has come to hand.
Having ordered 3 birth certificates and a marriage certificate, and have found that the name of Oline was probably Nilsen. So the relatives I am looking for are:
Olene or Oline Nilson, born in Elverum, Norway on 14th October 1845.
On her death certificate her parents are named 'John and Martha Olsen', but this is could be incorrect and they may ahve been Nilsen also.
Her husband was James CONNOR, later O'Connor.
If anyone could help me out with finding info about her ancestors in Norway, I'd be delighted.
Kind regards
Shelley
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Shelley OConnor
Starting member
New Zealand
14 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 01:29:54
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Wouldn't John be Johann in Norwegian records, thus making her Oline or Olene Johannsdatter rather than Johnsdatter?
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 01:42:17
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quote:
Originally posted by Shelley OConnor
Wouldn't John be Johann in Norwegian records, thus making her Oline or Olene Johannsdatter rather than Johnsdatter?
Thanks.
Hi,
Jon/John, Johan and Johannes are all common first names in Norway.
Census-1900 and the number of persons with the name in question:
Johan: 58496
Johannes: 22702
John: 14225
Jon: 3681
Johann: 72 (not a very common spelling)
All are different variants of the english name John.
Top 5 male names in Norway, 1900:
1. Ole: 77388
2. Johan: 58496
3. Hans: 46565
4. Karl/Carl: 40067
5. Kristian/Christian: 34146
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Edited by - jwiborg on 12/07/2012 01:54:17 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 02:52:21
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Where does your birth date of Oct 14, 1845, come from. The birth records for Elverum are quite easily accessed, but there is no one with the name Oline or any varient born on that date. The closest I could find was Oline, father Ole Johnsen and mother Maren Olsdatter., born Oct 29, 1845.
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Oline Olsdatter (later Olive Olsen O'Connor)
