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RF
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Posted - 15/05/2010 :  21:45:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anders Pedersen Strøm was travelling from Oslo to Chicago on 27 July 1869. It seems like he was the only member of his family that went to America.

He was born in Sweden in ab. 1830, but went to Sarpsborg in Norway where he married a swedish woman, Christine Svendsdatter. They had 4 children from 1859 to 1868. In 1875 Christine was a widow, living in Sarpsborg.

I haven´t found Anders dead in Sarpsborg, so I wonder what happened to him. Can he be found in the passenger lists ?

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=15&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=11276&merk=11276#ovre

peder
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Posted - 15/05/2010 :  22:13:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Name: Andrew Peterson
Home in 1880: Atkinson, Henry, Illinois
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Birthplace: Sweden
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's name: Christine
Father's birthplace: Sweden
Mother's birthplace: Sweden
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Farmer
Marital Status: Married
Andrew Peterson 49 b. sweden
Christine Peterson 41 b. Sweden
Nancy Peterson 21 b. Illinois
Henry Peterson 14 b. Illinois
Arthur Peterson 6 b. Illinois
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RF
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Norway
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Posted - 16/05/2010 :  09:08:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you, Peder, but this must be a different family.

In the 1875 and 1885 censuses, Christine was living in Sarpsborg as a widow (enke). Anders and Christines children were Carl Julius b.1859, Amanda Josefine b.1861, Johan Alfred b.1866 and Bernhard Arnt b.1868.

Christine and her children were probably supposed to join Anders in America later, but I wonder what happened to Anders in America. Did he go to Chicago ? Here is the 1885 census for Sarpsborg :

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=11&filnamn=f80102&gardpostnr=151&personpostnr=964&merk=964#ovre
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Hopkins
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Posted - 16/05/2010 :  13:24:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The emigration protocol listing you've given above was for Anders Pedersen Strøm (born ca. 1833) who lists himself as married, a carpenter and a native of Norway.
The 1865 census for Sarpsborg shows Christine Fegn Strøm to be married to Peder Andersen Strøm, born Sweden about 1831 who works as a public watchman.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=6&filnamn=f60102&gardpostnr=69&sokefelt=skjul

Are you sure the emigration record is for the same person?

Edited by - Hopkins on 16/05/2010 13:42:45
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RF
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Posted - 16/05/2010 :  17:55:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, in the 1865 census he´s called Peder Andersen Strøm, but his name must be Anders Pedersen (Pehrson) Strøm. They got married in Tune (Sarpsborg) 17 July 1857 and his name was Anders Pehrson. He was a carpenter.

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Lislcat
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Posted - 16/05/2010 :  18:39:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
These are the three Andrew or Anders Pederson's in the Illinois death index, before 1916. None of them fit with our Anders/Andrew being born abt 1830. I did not find any Anders/Andrew Strom in the index.

PEDERSON, ANDERS 1881-10-23 CHICAGO 60 YR U 00012147 COOK
PEDERSON, ANDERS 1892-12-20 CHICAGO 60 YR U 00014608 COOK
PEDERSON, ANDREW 1880-09-20 CHICAGO 66 YR U 00008013 COOK

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AntonH
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Posted - 16/05/2010 :  18:39:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting that the birth record for Carl Julius shows father as Anders Peterson Strøm and mother Kirstine Svensdatter Feng born Sept. 3, 1859. See

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AntonH
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Posted - 16/05/2010 :  18:55:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Similarly and in contrast to the 1865 Census the birth record for Amanda Josefine born Sep 8, 1861 shows her father as Anders Peterson Strøm and mother as Chirstine Svensdatter.

See#79

Edited by - AntonH on 16/05/2010 18:56:11
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Lislcat
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Posted - 16/05/2010 :  18:56:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lislcat

These are the three Andrew or Anders Pederson's in the Illinois death index, before 1916. None of them fit with our Anders/Andrew being born abt 1830, except the second one. I did not find any Anders/Andrew Strom in the index.

PEDERSON, ANDERS 1881-10-23 CHICAGO 60 YR U 00012147 COOK
PEDERSON, ANDERS 1892-12-20 CHICAGO 60 YR U 00014608 COOK
PEDERSON, ANDREW 1880-09-20 CHICAGO 66 YR U 00008013 COOK



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AntonH
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Posted - 16/05/2010 :  20:49:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is a long shot but the name is similar and the page also contains the names Axel Norling age 31 and Ole Christoffersen age 28 only a few names away from Strom. Axel Norling and Ole Christoffersen are both names from the Emigranter fra Oslo list you linked to.

Name: Arbers Strom
Arrival Date: 19 Aug 1869
Birth Year: abt 1833
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Copenhagen, Denmark
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Santiago de Cuba
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hasto
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Posted - 16/05/2010 :  23:20:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A good shot! "Anders" in bad handwriting = Arbers

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AntonH
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Posted - 17/05/2010 :  01:16:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the record for Ole Christoffersen who is the name next to Anders Strom on the orginal ship manifest. From Ancestry.com

Name: Ole Christoffersen
Arrival Date: 19 Aug 1869
Birth Year: abt 1841
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Copenhagen, Denmark
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Santiago de Cuba
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AntonH
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Posted - 17/05/2010 :  01:20:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the record for Axel Norling who is two names above Anders Strom. The name is in the orginal manifest is clearly AxEl Norling.

Name: Ax E C Norling
Arrival Date: 19 Aug 1869
Birth Year: abt 1838
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Copenhagen, Denmark
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Santiago de Cuba
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AntonH
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Posted - 17/05/2010 :  01:26:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This then is likely Marie Mørk from the Emigranter fra Oslo list. The original manifest clearly is Marie Morek that has been transcribed into Florek. She is on page 3 of the orginal manifest.

Name: Maria Florek
Arrival Date: 19 Aug 1869
Birth Year: abt 1812
Age: 57
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Copenhagen, Denmark
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Santiago de Cuba

Edited by - AntonH on 17/05/2010 01:36:12
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AntonH
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Posted - 17/05/2010 :  01:29:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And finally this is likely Gustav Olsen Scherve who has been transcribed slightly differently. He is on page 2 of the orginal mnifest. I think that this is probably enough to be fairly certain that this is the correct Anders Strom.

Name: Gustav Scherrov
Arrival Date: 19 Aug 1869
Birth Year: abt 1844
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Copenhagen, Denmark
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Santiago de Cuba

Edited by - AntonH on 17/05/2010 01:37:43
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Hopkins
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Posted - 17/05/2010 :  03:50:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gustav ends up in Chicago, Illinois as a printer - Source: 1880 US census where his surname appears to be spelled as "Sherway". The age and country of birth are right.

I can find only one reference online for the "Exelensen Toll" (listed for all of these on the Oslo emigration protocol list). The poster's ancestor was another passenger on that ship. She recounts that the ship took them as far as Copenhagen and the rest of the trip was on the ship Santiago De Cuba.
http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/read/NORWAY/1999-08/0935543896

I've been trying to find the other names on the voyage after they arrived in the US (searching census indexes) - but thus far Gustav has been the first found.

Edited by - Hopkins on 17/05/2010 03:53:13
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