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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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 Posted - 01/09/2010 : 10:36:33
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Hi cheryl,
I am glad to hear that.
A short historical briefing.
In 1349-50 half of the population in Norway died because of the Black Plague called "Svartedauen"
Because of the Protestant Reformation 1570 the parish´s started the introduction of parish registers, the oldest church book is from 1623, Andebu in Vestfold.
Actually Sandar and Stokke was a part of Jarsberg and merged with Vestfold 1821.
It was governed by a Count, the title Count of Jarlsberg did not end before 1893 when Peder Anker Wedel Jarlsberg died.
Still thousands of pages are not online, will hopefully be in some years, like the probate registers, military records, court cases etc. etc.
About 20 000 documents are kept here
One of the oldest document concerning Norway is from a piece treaty from 991 between England and a viking army, the doc. is kept in London, translated from old English (Anglo Saxian) to Norwegian.
The English king Ethelred II paid 20 000 pound in gold and silver for "protection" against enemy armies to "...Olavs army, Jostein and Gudmund..", see here
Olav was Olav I Trygvasson, king of Norway from 995
Lustin was Jostein Ericsson Bjodaskalle, Olav´s uncle
Gotman, Gudmund, Stegita´s son, was probably an Irish viking
The name Norway - Nordvegr (todays Norge) the northern road, is first mentioned 880.
Vestrvegr (Western road) was England, Austrvegr (Eastern road) was Russia and Sudrveger (Souther road) was France
Returns to Nordre Fevang and Børger spelled both Børger Borger, in the scanned records the letter Ø is an O with one ot two `` above.
There were no rules for naming, the prist wrote the name as he heard it pronunciated
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Edited by - Kåarto on 06/09/2010 23:32:03 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 16:26:58
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If it's of any help Børge Nielsens baptismal record is the 2nd on left page, he was born Dec 22 1758. Parents Niels Børgersen and Ane Tolfsdatter.
In 1701 Niels Børgesen, 48 years old and his son Børge Nielsen 4 years (most likely Børge Nielsen (1758)s grandfather) were at Nordre Fævang.
Tolf Nielsen at Søndre Fævang could be Ane Tolfsdaters father and the other grandfather.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 16:47:09
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Correct Einar, he died on Fevang Mai 12 buried mai 18. 1828 age 69, see #16
Sibille was born Mai 6. 1759 on Uneberg in Sandar to Lars Christophersen Uneberg and Marie Friderikdatter, see top left page here
Sibille died on Fevang Feb. 2. buried Feb. 10. 1825, age 66, see right page #7.
Perhaps the Christopersen name comes from him.
I have managed to follow this familyline many generation back from the "bygdebooks", no hurry, these Fevang people are not going anywhere, will bring it up step by step later.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 01/09/2010 17:34:35 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 18:50:19
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Hi,
Børges father Niels Børgesen was born on Fevang, christened Friday Nov. 15. 1726, father was Børger Fevang.
Left page 8. line from bottom, here:
15 dito (same mnth. as above) døbt (bap.) Børge Fevangs barn (child), med sitt nafn (named) Niels
He married Anne Tolfsdatter April 13.1758, right page 6 marrige from top:
13. Apr: Niels Børegsen and Ane TolfsD:
She was born on Skielleberg, christened Tuesday Jan. 13. 1739, see 2 baptism, 4. line from top right page here
Festo epiphaniam 13. jan. døbt Tolf Torsen Skielleberg and Martha Hansdatters D (Daughter) Anne
Niels Børgesen died on Nordre Fevang, buried August 12. 1798, age 71, left page August 12
Anne Tolfsdatter died on Hem, buried Nov. 1. 1806, age 67, 5, she married 2. time in Sandar 1799 to Hans Rasmussen Hem, right page about 2/3 down Novembre 1.
Hem 1801, Anne and Søren both married 2. time, 4 children, Søren age 20 was Hans son, the 3 others probably Niels Børegsen´s children.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 02/09/2010 : 00:27:40
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It´s him on Fevang 1701 Einar.
Børger Nielsen was born on Fevang about 1696.
He married Oct. 3. 1726 to Marthe Andersdatter b.a.1691, right page 10 and 11 line from top, starts with;
Dom: 14. p. trin (14 sunday passed Trin.)..............................3 Oct: copulerede
Børger Nielsen from Feavand and Mari AndersD:
Børger Nielsen died on Nordre Fevang, buried Nov.23. 1756, age 63 and 3 months, left page, 12 line from top starts with;
Dca 1. Adventis (1 Sunday in Advent)...., here
Marthe Andersdr. (origin unknown) died on Nordre Fevang, buried June. 5. 1781, age 90, late Børge Nileslen Fevang is also mentioned, left page line 10 from bottom
Børge Nielsen was an enlisted soldier when he married, he served in Smålenske Regiment (changed to Akershusiske regiment 1789), in Søndre (Southern) Jarlsbergske company, called LiffCompany under command by Colonel Johan Friderich Frølich.
Feb. 5. 1726 Børger Nielsen Nordre Fevang had served for 4 and a half year, age 31, see #82
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Anthony Cryan
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Australia
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Posted - 02/09/2010 : 15:55:37
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Just a quick hello and thanks to Cheryl, Kåre and everyone contributing to this thread.
My name is Tony Cryan (Queensland, Australia) and my link to Børger is through my wife's line.
What has been covered in a couple of days already I think took my Mother in Law some time and effort to get - I am waiting to pick up her information that she also obtained from Norway to throw into the mix.
One thing, she seems to believe that Børger "left the farm" due to an argument or similar with his Father, but I'll check things with her.
Once again well done and thanks
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 02/09/2010 : 22:53:38
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Hello Tony and welcome to this topic.
Seems like you have info on Børger Nielsen who settled in Australia 1874.
I will continue on his forefathers.
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Originally posted by eibache
In 1701 Niels Børgesen, 48 years old and his son Børge Nielsen 4 years (most likely Børge Nielsen (1758)s grandfather) were at Nordre Fævang.
Niels Børgesen Nordre Fevang in Einars posting above from 1701 was born on Fevang about 1653, the 3 farmers "opsiddere" on Nordre Fevang, the sons and the farm hands are mentioned exept for a widow, Eli Pedersdatter "Inderste", a relative to the owner, married soldier Joen Larssen.
The reason no women and girls are mentioned is because the authorities (the king) was only interested in 2 things:
Owners; Taxpayers
boys and men; potential soldiers,
The exeption was the widow, she was a taxpayer until she married again or the children became of age.
Børge had a younger brother David in 1701.
The mother not mentioned was Boel Larsdatter, origin unknown exept that her father was Lars, she was b. about 1663.
Boel married Niels Børgesen N. Fevang ab. 1695
Both died on Nordre Fevang , Niels 1718 (not found) and Boel 1743, buried Sunday July 27. age 80.
Right page 2. funeral from top, behind her name is the name of her husband, deseased Niels Børgesen N (Nordre) Fevang written, see Boel LarsD here
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Cheryl Marshall
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 03/09/2010 : 16:26:03
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Welcome Tony - what a wonderful surprise. Looking forward to any information you also have.
Kare, I am enjoying learning about Norway while you pass on this valuable info. The depth and scope is beyond belief. I study each new listing and I feel very connected.
Don't work too hard!
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 03/09/2010 : 17:13:18
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No I don´t work to hard Cheryl,
its a hobby and I enjoy history.
I learn something every day about how life was in Norway in the past.
Niels Børgesen´s father was Børge Pedersen/Persen, farmer on N. Fevang in the 1664 census, age 40. a son Hans age 13 is mentioned and two other farmers.
I have stumbled across Hans Fevang in the records earlier.
Taxation on N. Fevang was the value of 10,5 Pund and 3 Mark of butter and 6 skin (Marten skin?).
Info about the Taxation here.
Borger/Børger Pedersen´s wife was not mentioned.
I cannot verfy this next info, according 3 familytrees probably taken from a "Bygdbook" or a probate register since Borger died first, 1685, was her name Barbara Clemmmetsdatter d. a. 1695, origin unknown.
There are still more names to bring, even I cannot verfy the info I will bring them up here.
The familytrees seems true, I do not have acess to Sandar "Bygdebok".
How was life as a soldier in Jarlsberg the early 1700s, I have a short summary for you later.
It could also be intersted to find out what happened to Børge Nilesen´s sibling after he jumped ship in 1874.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/09/2010 : 21:34:52
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Hi.
The two names Børge and Niels are the read thread in this family for 300 years
Borger Persen/Pedersen N. Fevang´s father was Per/Peder Borgersen, farmer on N.Fevang and Ragnild Thorsdatter.
Peder Borgersen´s parents; Borge Bielsen Fevang b. about 1570 and unknown wife,
Borges father was Biel Fevang, he bought a subfarm under Fevang named Haugtuft from Mattis Røkoll 1566.
Jarlsberg company in the early 1700s.
Børger Nielsen´s company in 1726, Søndre Jarlsbergske company, was called LiffCompany (see my posting above), liff-Liv means life, lifecompany, which task was to protect the leaders of Smålenske regiment.
Norway/Denmark and Sweden were at war for centuries.
There are signs that soldiers from Smålenske Regiment was in readyness early 1700´s.
As a nobleman the Count had the privilege to remove 10 soldiers who worked on his estate for payment against letting military service.
Several strong defences, small fortresses named Skanse, were build, one of them was Gjellebekk Skanse in Lier were two companies from Smålenske Regiment partisipated March 1716, this was in the 1709-1720 Nordic war, called "11 års krigen" the 11 years war.
1716 the Swedish war campaign against Norway, total 7000 soldiers, 800 Swedes from the Dragon Regiment, the cavalry, were stopped at Gjellebekk Skanse, Norwegian skieres attaced the flanks, colonel Løvenstierna withdraw and reported to his authorities that the Norwegian defences were to strong. Sweden withdraw.
Two years later king Carl 12 attaced Norway again, he was shot by a Norwegian sniper at Fredriksten Fortress.
A curiosity;
Norway most populare cheese in the US is Jarlsberg.
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Cheryl Marshall
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 05/09/2010 : 10:17:56
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By my count we are now 11 generations back from the Borge in my initial inquiry - now that is what I call a breakthough!Thanks also for the historical notes as I am finding it extremely interesting. In Australia we know so little about Norway- the Jarlsburg cheese I certainly know. Our primary school history was all about England when I was growing up!
Kind thoughts
Cheryl
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/09/2010 : 23:37:36
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Hi,
our common history goes fare back, lots of books and documents are kept.
Thought I could find out more about the SkIelleberg farm.
[quote]Originally posted by Kåarto
She was born on Skielleberg, christened Tuesday Jan. 13. 1739, see 2 baptism, 4. line from top right page here
Festo epiphaniam 13. jan. døbt Tolf Torsen Skielleberg and Martha Hansdatters D (Daughter) Anne
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Starts with this.
Tolf Torsen Skielleberg married Martha Hansdatter March 27. 1838 (engaged Jan. 30), see right page 2. wedding. 3. line below Hedaline;
I Jesu vælsignede Navn begyndis
det Aaar 1738 here
Both died on Skielleberg.
Tolf Torsen was born on Skielleberg ab. 1714, buried Jan. 23. 1780, age 65, 1. mth, see left page 5. from top
Martha Hansdr. b. on Waggestad ab 1715, buried Oct. 29. 1790, age 75 and 6 mths, right page 11. line from bottom
Various spellings for Skielleberg; Skialabærgh in Bishop Eysteins "Røde bok" farm register from1398, p 56-57, 1593 Schalbere, 1600 Skielberg, 1604 Schelberg, 1625 Skielberg, 1664 Schelleberg, 1723 Schielleberg
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Kåarto
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Posted - 06/09/2010 : 16:27:58
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Marthe Hansdatter b. on Waggestad, parents;
Hans Andersen Waggestad b.a.1675, married ab. 1708 Mari Andersdatter Solberg.
Hans Andersen, origin unknown, inherit Waggestad from his stepfather Hans Michelsen Waggestad.
Hans Andersen died on Waggestad Sept. 8.1743, buried Sept 12, right page 9. line from top
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/09/2010 : 22:58:34
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Hi,
guess you want to find out what happened to Børges siblings, Niels, Søren, Andrine and Maren Sibylle, it may take some time.
Nils and Søren lived with the parents on Fevang 1875, Maren Sibylle not found.
Andrine Nilsdatter Fevang married Johan Nilsen in Stokke municipality Mai 29. 1870, Johan, servant on Eeg was fom Svarteberg (Black hill), Andrine worked on farm Vestre (Western) Holt in Stokke, the bride´s father and farmer Hans Nielsen Holt were best men, see #13
A daughter Julie was born June 13. 1870 on farm Eeg, see #65
Among the godpartens; the father Nils Sørensen Fevang and Andrine and Børge´s siblings Nils and Maren, both from Fevang.
A son Johan Arnt born on Praten in Stokke June 12. 1871, the same three godparents from Fevang, the father Johan Nilsen was now a seaman, see #66
A son Nils Anton b. on Mellom (Central) Borge in Stokke Nov. 1. 1872, Nils Sørensen Fevang was godfather, the father Johan Nilsen still a seaman, see 154
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Kåarto
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Posted - 07/09/2010 : 11:41:45
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Stokke March 1880.
Seaman Johan Nielsen and his wife Andrine Nilsdatter with two children, Nils Andreas b. Nov. 11. 1873 and Julie Oct. 7. 1877 returned to Fevang, see right page #32-35
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Burge Neilson born about Feb 1847 Sandifjiord.
